Re: Framemaker installed under Administrator
I think we have ended the story of the Framemaker and the network administrator. I went ahead and told this administrator that there is nothing else I can. He had enough suggestions (from everyone on the forums here) to either uninstall and reinstall or again contact Adobe. I said, .. that what ever he comes up with I'm sure will allow his company to fully utilize our software solution and still maintain his network integrity. He said he was disappointed with Adobe but understood my position and suggestions. He will do something so I can go up there and train his company on how to use our software with Adobe Framemaker and InDesign. I'm sure a bubble with a 13-inch laptop in it, no network connection and accessible only by people in bio-hazard suits or something like that. Thanks to everyone for the help. By the way I downloaded a trial version on a test mac laptop running windows xp through bootcamp and found no instance of installing as multiuser or single user. Just a straight install with my user password. Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Combs, Richard wrote: Scott White wrote: Ok I just got off the phone with this guy. He doesn't like my suggestions, Art's suggestion or anyone else's. He wants to control what gets installed and downloaded on a machine so he wants to do all installs and downloads as administrator rights. He doesn't want to give this person administrator rights to run the software in fear this person will download other things. He installed photoshop and InDesign under these rules and they will open up for the user rights. It's just Frame that won't. He wants me to get with Adobe and have them fix this or get answers to his problem. At this point, I think I'd adopt a humble, helpless attitude: Gosh, Mr. Windows Administrator, I just don't understand all this high-falutin' technical stuff like you do and can't possibly explain it to the folks at Adobe the way you can. Since _you're_ the only person who can be trusted to install software on this PC, I think _you're_ the one who needs to talk to Adobe to resolve the problem that _you're_ having in getting it installed properly. After all, if the PC user can't use the software, then Mr. Windows Administrator clearly hasn't installed it properly. Since that's _his job_, it's up to him to determine whether the problem is with him or with Adobe. I wouldn't want to bet either way. It's most likely that he failed to install for All Users. OTOH, Adobe has a pretty poor track record with installations. IIRC, I was unable to properly install some version of either FM or Acrobat a while back, even though I have full administrator rights to my PC. The installation had to be done by someone with _network_ administrator rights. Sheesh. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker installed under Administrator
I can check on that. Interesting. Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:03 AM, O'Laoghaire Micheal wrote: Is it possible that when your client installed Frame he chose single user instead of multiple user? Regards, Micheal O'Laoghaire Billing and Active Customer Management Comverse Inc. Wakefield, MA -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott White Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 9:21 AM To: FrameUsers List Subject: Framemaker installed under Administrator I have this new client who installed Framemaker 9.0 on a PC running windows xp. Seems he installed and registered it using the admin account and not the regular user account. So now when the regular user of the machine tries to open Frame she can't. Only if she is logged on as admin can she open it. Adobe will not help this guy out with his situation since he registered the product under admin. His email: I called Adobe technical support and they will not provide any assistance because when I registered the software I put in different information that doesn't match Nancy's account at Adobe. Therefore, they are of no help how to configure their software to run under a normal user's account. I have also perfomed internet searches to no avail. Is there any way around this? His issue is he doesn't want the user to have admin rights to run the software. Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com This e-mail message may contain confidential, commercial or privileged information that constitutes proprietary information of Comverse Technology or its subsidiaries. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any review, use or distribution of this information is absolutely prohibited and we request that you delete all copies and contact us by e-mailing to: secur...@comverse.com. Thank You. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker installed under Administrator
IF that is the case, can it be uninstalled and reinstalled for multiusers or is he locked in? Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Art Campbell wrote: That was exactly what I was thinking -- installed For Just This User instead of All Users. But I suspect you might also be able to fix it if the Admin account twiddles the directory permissions (recursively) to allow Everyone to execute the Frame directories. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Scott White swh...@alamark.com wrote: I can check on that. Interesting. Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:03 AM, O'Laoghaire Micheal wrote: Is it possible that when your client installed Frame he chose single user instead of multiple user? Regards, Micheal O'Laoghaire Billing and Active Customer Management Comverse Inc. Wakefield, MA ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker installed under Administrator
He's not locked in. If he activated, he can de-activate before uninstalling, and he's good to move the software anywhere -- including back on to the same machine. Another easier way to go may be to give the user Admin privileges, so she can execute FM. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Scott White swh...@alamark.com wrote: IF that is the case, can it be uninstalled and reinstalled for multiusers or is he locked in? Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Art Campbell wrote: That was exactly what I was thinking -- installed For Just This User instead of All Users. But I suspect you might also be able to fix it if the Admin account twiddles the directory permissions (recursively) to allow Everyone to execute the Frame directories. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Scott White swh...@alamark.com wrote: I can check on that. Interesting. Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:03 AM, O'Laoghaire Micheal wrote: Is it possible that when your client installed Frame he chose single user instead of multiple user? Regards, Micheal O'Laoghaire Billing and Active Customer Management Comverse Inc. Wakefield, MA ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker installed under Administrator
Ok I just got off the phone with this guy. He doesn't like my suggestions, Art's suggestion or anyone else's. He wants to control what gets installed and downloaded on a machine so he wants to do all installs and downloads as administrator rights. He doesn't want to give this person administrator rights to run the software in fear this person will download other things. He installed photoshop and InDesign under these rules and they will open up for the user rights. It's just Frame that won't. He wants me to get with Adobe and have them fix this or get answers to his problem. He just sent me a log dissertation on why windows administrators must do what they are doing -- make everything tighter than bark on a tree. Any other help appreciated. Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:26 AM, Art Campbell wrote: He's not locked in. If he activated, he can de-activate before uninstalling, and he's good to move the software anywhere -- including back on to the same machine. Another easier way to go may be to give the user Admin privileges, so she can execute FM. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Scott White swh...@alamark.com wrote: IF that is the case, can it be uninstalled and reinstalled for multiusers or is he locked in? Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Art Campbell wrote: That was exactly what I was thinking -- installed For Just This User instead of All Users. But I suspect you might also be able to fix it if the Admin account twiddles the directory permissions (recursively) to allow Everyone to execute the Frame directories. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Scott White swh...@alamark.com wrote: I can check on that. Interesting. Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:03 AM, O'Laoghaire Micheal wrote: Is it possible that when your client installed Frame he chose single user instead of multiple user? Regards, Micheal O'Laoghaire Billing and Active Customer Management Comverse Inc. Wakefield, MA ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Framemaker installed under Administrator
Overzealousness at its height, I suspect. Or a novice Administrator. Installing an application with allow running for all users can be done only as an Administrator if that is what he wants to control. It has *nothing* to do with giving away Administrator rights or passwords, and will not cause the user to miraculously gain new abilities to *install* other software. It is a standard Windows (albeit optional) application installation capability so that *all* users of a given system can run programs installed by others (typically Administrators!) Clearly, some applications (Photoshop in his example ...) select the allow run for all users as their default (and the installer programs don't ask apparently!) - and this guy is too much of a novice to understand that, I suppose? Other applications use this optional feature in Windows installations, (to restrict usage to a singel user for example), and FrameMaker installation falls into this camp apparently. Probably because of a different installer program being used by FrameMaker. There are probably some white papers, or explanations, of this optional capability, available on the Microsoft web site I suppose. But this will take time to research. I think all he as to do ... as Administrator ... to fix this issue: 1. De-activate FrameMaker. 2. Uninstall FrameMaker. 3. Re-install FrameMaker - with run for all users allowed. 4. Re-activate FrameMaker. This does not empower the non-Admin user of that system to do other installations! Or to violate any security holes. Frankly, Adobe is not likely to fix FrameMaker to accommodate such a silly request. Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott White Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:40 PM To: Art Campbell Cc: FrameUsers List; O'Laoghaire Micheal Subject: Re: Framemaker installed under Administrator Ok I just got off the phone with this guy. He doesn't like my suggestions, Art's suggestion or anyone else's. He wants to control what gets installed and downloaded on a machine so he wants to do all installs and downloads as administrator rights. He doesn't want to give this person administrator rights to run the software in fear this person will download other things. He installed photoshop and InDesign under these rules and they will open up for the user rights. It's just Frame that won't. He wants me to get with Adobe and have them fix this or get answers to his problem. He just sent me a log dissertation on why windows administrators must do what they are doing -- make everything tighter than bark on a tree. Any other help appreciated. Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker installed under Administrator
Scott, I think he is being unreasonable, especially to suggest that you get with Adobe and have them fix this or get answers to his problem. He is just going to have to learn that he can't always have everything his own way. There is no point in comparing FrameMaker with Photoshop and InDesign installations, permissions, etc. They are entirely different applications and have different histories and, I am sure, architectures. Just because they are developed by the same company, Adobe, does not mean they are therefore exactly the same in all respects. Of the suggestions I read earlier, uninstalling and reinstalling with the available for all users option selected is the best course of action. Either that or fiddling with the folder and file permissions until it is all working but that may also break other things or open the system as vulnerabilities. If he does not want to allow the user to have access to the application then he must accept that he is refusing to let this person do their work and will probably need to explain why his attitude is worth more than their productivity to the company. The suggestions to date are normal in the course of events. Alan On 17/10/2009, at 8:39 AM, Scott White wrote: Ok I just got off the phone with this guy. He doesn't like my suggestions, Art's suggestion or anyone else's. He wants to control what gets installed and downloaded on a machine so he wants to do all installs and downloads as administrator rights. He doesn't want to give this person administrator rights to run the software in fear this person will download other things. He installed photoshop and InDesign under these rules and they will open up for the user rights. It's just Frame that won't. He wants me to get with Adobe and have them fix this or get answers to his problem. He just sent me a log dissertation on why windows administrators must do what they are doing -- make everything tighter than bark on a tree. Any other help appreciated. Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:26 AM, Art Campbell wrote: He's not locked in. If he activated, he can de-activate before uninstalling, and he's good to move the software anywhere -- including back on to the same machine. Another easier way to go may be to give the user Admin privileges, so she can execute FM. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Scott White swh...@alamark.com wrote: IF that is the case, can it be uninstalled and reinstalled for multiusers or is he locked in? Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Art Campbell wrote: That was exactly what I was thinking -- installed For Just This User instead of All Users. But I suspect you might also be able to fix it if the Admin account twiddles the directory permissions (recursively) to allow Everyone to execute the Frame directories. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Scott White swh...@alamark.com wrote: I can check on that. Interesting. Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:03 AM, O'Laoghaire Micheal wrote: Is it possible that when your client installed Frame he chose single user instead of multiple user? Regards, Micheal O'Laoghaire Billing and Active Customer Management Comverse Inc. Wakefield, MA ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to
RE: Framemaker installed under Administrator
Sounds like another of those Intel inside, Idiots outside people that I came across in an IT department some years ago. I'd be tempted to tell him to sort it out himself. Roger Shuttleworth London, Canada -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott White Sent: October 16, 2009 3:40 PM To: Art Campbell Cc: FrameUsers List; O'Laoghaire Micheal Subject: Re: Framemaker installed under Administrator Ok I just got off the phone with this guy. He doesn't like my suggestions, Art's suggestion or anyone else's. He wants to control what gets installed and downloaded on a machine so he wants to do all installs and downloads as administrator rights. He doesn't want to give this person administrator rights to run the software in fear this person will download other things. He installed photoshop and InDesign under these rules and they will open up for the user rights. It's just Frame that won't. He wants me to get with Adobe and have them fix this or get answers to his problem. He just sent me a log dissertation on why windows administrators must do what they are doing -- make everything tighter than bark on a tree. Any other help appreciated. Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Framemaker installed under Administrator
Scott White wrote: Ok I just got off the phone with this guy. He doesn't like my suggestions, Art's suggestion or anyone else's. He wants to control what gets installed and downloaded on a machine so he wants to do all installs and downloads as administrator rights. He doesn't want to give this person administrator rights to run the software in fear this person will download other things. He installed photoshop and InDesign under these rules and they will open up for the user rights. It's just Frame that won't. He wants me to get with Adobe and have them fix this or get answers to his problem. At this point, I think I'd adopt a humble, helpless attitude: Gosh, Mr. Windows Administrator, I just don't understand all this high-falutin' technical stuff like you do and can't possibly explain it to the folks at Adobe the way you can. Since _you're_ the only person who can be trusted to install software on this PC, I think _you're_ the one who needs to talk to Adobe to resolve the problem that _you're_ having in getting it installed properly. After all, if the PC user can't use the software, then Mr. Windows Administrator clearly hasn't installed it properly. Since that's _his job_, it's up to him to determine whether the problem is with him or with Adobe. I wouldn't want to bet either way. It's most likely that he failed to install for All Users. OTOH, Adobe has a pretty poor track record with installations. IIRC, I was unable to properly install some version of either FM or Acrobat a while back, even though I have full administrator rights to my PC. The installation had to be done by someone with _network_ administrator rights. Sheesh. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker installed under Administrator
I don't know for sure because I've been installing it as part of the TCS2. Easiest way to check for sure may be to download the eval and run it... Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Scott White swh...@alamark.com wrote: Simple question, does anyone remember/know if the default install for Framemaker 9.0 is single user or if there is even an option to install as single or multiuser? Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote: Scott, I think he is being unreasonable, especially to suggest that you get with Adobe and have them fix this or get answers to his problem. He is just going to have to learn that he can't always have everything his own way. There is no point in comparing FrameMaker with Photoshop and InDesign installations, permissions, etc. They are entirely different applications and have different histories and, I am sure, architectures. Just because they are developed by the same company, Adobe, does not mean they are therefore exactly the same in all respects. Of the suggestions I read earlier, uninstalling and reinstalling with the available for all users option selected is the best course of action. Either that or fiddling with the folder and file permissions until it is all working but that may also break other things or open the system as vulnerabilities. If he does not want to allow the user to have access to the application then he must accept that he is refusing to let this person do their work and will probably need to explain why his attitude is worth more than their productivity to the company. The suggestions to date are normal in the course of events. Alan On 17/10/2009, at 8:39 AM, Scott White wrote: Ok I just got off the phone with this guy. He doesn't like my suggestions, Art's suggestion or anyone else's. He wants to control what gets installed and downloaded on a machine so he wants to do all installs and downloads as administrator rights. He doesn't want to give this person administrator rights to run the software in fear this person will download other things. He installed photoshop and InDesign under these rules and they will open up for the user rights. It's just Frame that won't. He wants me to get with Adobe and have them fix this or get answers to his problem. He just sent me a log dissertation on why windows administrators must do what they are doing -- make everything tighter than bark on a tree. Any other help appreciated. Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:26 AM, Art Campbell wrote: He's not locked in. If he activated, he can de-activate before uninstalling, and he's good to move the software anywhere -- including back on to the same machine. Another easier way to go may be to give the user Admin privileges, so she can execute FM. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Scott White swh...@alamark.com wrote: IF that is the case, can it be uninstalled and reinstalled for multiusers or is he locked in? Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Art Campbell wrote: That was exactly what I was thinking -- installed For Just This User instead of All Users. But I suspect you might also be able to fix it if the Admin account twiddles the directory permissions (recursively) to allow Everyone to execute the Frame directories. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Scott White swh...@alamark.com wrote: I can check on that. Interesting. Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:03 AM, O'Laoghaire Micheal wrote: Is it possible that when your client installed Frame he chose single user instead of multiple user? Regards, Micheal O'Laoghaire Billing and Active Customer Management Comverse Inc.
RE: Framemaker installed under Administrator
Note that multiuser is a different animal altogether from what has been the subject of this threaqd. Using that term when you're really talking about a make this application available to all users of this computer installation option is guaranteed to cause confusion, particularly if one is talking to a script-following customer support agent at Adobe. Adobe used to (and maybe still does) offer a real multiuser, floating license version of FrameMaker that you would install on a UNIX server. Multiple users (up to the number of concurrent users the specific license allows) are then able to check out a temporary license from a license server daemon and run the application on the server from their own workstation. This is *totally* different from making one local installation of an application available to any user who has a legitimate login account on that specific system. As far as I know, all Windows applications must be installable so that they are made available to all users, but I believe it's optional whether they provide a for this user only option. The difference is whether the installer makes its registry and program menu entries in the profile of the installing individual (the admin in your situation) or in the standard Windows All Users profile. -Fred Ridder Subject: Re: Framemaker installed under Administrator From: swh...@alamark.com Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:10:27 -0500 To: a...@alphabyte.co.nz CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Micheal.O'laogha...@comverse.com Simple question, does anyone remember/know if the default install for Framemaker 9.0 is single user or if there is even an option to install as single or multiuser? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker installed under Administrator
Makes you wonder if he understands what distributed computing means. He can walk over to the user's computer, manually give the user Admin rights, install the software, and then downgrade the user rights. THAT is the solution that he has. Waiting for anything else is lunacy. I wish him well in his pursuit of security. Next he will want to remove all computers from external sources and keep them only on the company net. If he needs that kind of security then he should do it, and deal with the extra work it makes for him. Scott Scott White wrote: Ok I just got off the phone with this guy. He doesn't like my suggestions, Art's suggestion or anyone else's. He wants to control what gets installed and downloaded on a machine so he wants to do all installs and downloads as administrator rights. He doesn't want to give this person administrator rights to run the software in fear this person will download other things. He installed photoshop and InDesign under these rules and they will open up for the user rights. It's just Frame that won't. He wants me to get with Adobe and have them fix this or get answers to his problem. He just sent me a log dissertation on why windows administrators must do what they are doing -- make everything tighter than bark on a tree. Any other help appreciated. Scott White Media Production EBC Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
