RE: No-tech; was: Funny
Ink-flipping and rubber band projectiles... I guess that'd be the lo-tech forerunner of the computer virus? ;o) -Niels - -Original Message- - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - On Behalf Of Roger Shuttleworth - Sent: 31. marts 2006 16:11 - To: framers@FrameUsers.com - Subject: RE: No-tech; was: Funny - - Fountain pen!?? - We had monitors before anyone could afford a fountain pen. - Ink monitors. - It was their job each morning for a week to fill up the - inkwell on each desk. Then we dipped our nibbed pens into - the inkwells and started to write. Nibbed pens were fun. You - could use them to flick ink across the room (the walls and - ceiling bore testimony of this), or, if preferred, onto the - back of the girl in front. In combination with a strong - rubber band they also made fairly lethal weapons. Can't do - any of those fun things these days... - - And I still have a Parker 61 fountain pen that was given to - me in 1969, and it still works fine. - - Roger Shuttleworth - London, Ontario - Canada - - -Original Message- - From: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ameusers.co - m] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill - Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 6:11 AM - To: Roberts, Katie; framers@FrameUsers.com - Subject: OT: No-tech; was: Funny - - Ah yes, the good old(en) days of low-tech. Or maybe I - should say no-tech. - - I wrote my first reports with a hand-held device. Nope, not - a Palm Pilot or a hand held PC. This hand-held device was - called a FOUNTAIN PEN. - Remember - fountain pens? Smeary, smelly ink that got all over your - fingers and took forever to dry. You had to write each - letter by hand. And there was no such thing as white-out. - Make a mistake? Do the whooole page over. - :-( - - Ball point pens came out a few years later. And white out - too. Wheee. - Calculators did not come out 'till after I was out of - college. Changed the world - if you could afford one, that is. - - We use CAD to design things today. Back in college we used - something called a drafting board. And we used hand-held - devices called PENCILS. They were better than fountain pens - because you could actually erase your mistakes and not have - to do the whole page over. :-) - - The first computer I ever used had tubes in it. It cost a - million dollars and would add, subtract, multiply, and - divide. Programming was in assembly language. Punch cards - and green-bar printouts. Advanced technology? - Well, - maybe. Make mistake? Do the whole punch card over. And - watch out for hanging chad. Whoops, no, we didn't have - hanging chad back then. That was invented in the election of 2000. - - Kids today don't know how easy they have it. Hey, kids 10 - years ago don't know how easy they had it, either. - - The fun (and funny) thing about all this is that every - generation says the same thing about how easy their kids - have it. And it'll probably be true 100 years from now. - - Diane Gaskill - Lockheed-Martin Space Systems - - -Original Message- - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] rs.com]On - Behalf Of Roberts, Katie - Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 12:32 PM - To: framers@FrameUsers.com - Subject: RE: Funny - - I'm 47 and have been taking on-line classes since 2002. It - is great! It is so much better to be able to attend classes - in your pajamas. Way back, in the long, long ago, I had to - type my reports on a manual typewriter and depended heavily - on white out or the correction paper. - Heck, I even used a telex machine in one of my first jobs. - Thank heavens for technology. - - Katie Roberts - Ohmart/VEGA Corp. - Cincinnati, OH - 513-272-0524x167 - The important thing is not to stop questioning. - Albert Einstein - - Vote for Char James-Tanny for STC International Secretary! - - - -Original Message- - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ers.com] On Behalf Of Joe Malin - Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:51 PM - To: Gillian Flato; framers@FrameUsers.com - Subject: RE: Funny - - What really *bugs* me (and I'm *much* older than 30) is how - good science students in college got it now. - - I majored in Chemistry in undergrad. I had to type science - papers on a portable typewriter, make photocopies of - instrument outputs or data plots and then do a massive - paste-up job. We had primitive calculators, but also relied - on slide rules. Need something from an instrument or a test? - Get up at 2 am and *walk to the source*. Ugh. - - Did computer science in grad school. On a mainframe (double - ugh). No dial-up; had ride downtown to the computer lab to - get on a terminal, then hang around until 2 AM so turnaround - on jobs was less than 20 minutes. Had to wait until *3 AM* - to get access to the computer graphics equipment. - - I wouldn't wish any of it on a blind dog. I'm not better - for having done it the hard way, just probably more burned
Re: RE: No-tech; was: Funny
Fountain pens were a special delight to those of us who are left- handed. I'd drag my hand over the still-wet ink, smearing my paper and depositing an ugly blue stain on the side of my hand. Pearl Rosenberg TeleHealth Services - Original Message - From: Roger Shuttleworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, March 31, 2006 9:11 am Subject: RE: No-tech; was: Funny To: framers@FrameUsers.com Fountain pen!?? We had monitors before anyone could afford a fountain pen. Ink monitors.It was their job each morning for a week to fill up the inkwell on each desk. Then we dipped our nibbed pens into the inkwells and started to write. Nibbed pens were fun. You could use them to flick ink across the room (the walls and ceiling bore testimony of this), or, if preferred, onto the back of the girl in front. In combination with a strong rubberband they also made fairly lethal weapons. Can't do any of those fun things these days... And I still have a Parker 61 fountain pen that was given to me in 1969,and it still works fine. Roger Shuttleworth London, Ontario Canada -Original Message- From: framers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:framers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] m] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 6:11 AM To: Roberts, Katie; framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: OT: No-tech; was: Funny Ah yes, the good old(en) days of low-tech. Or maybe I should say no-tech. I wrote my first reports with a hand-held device. Nope, not a Palm Pilot or a hand held PC. This hand-held device was called a FOUNTAIN PEN. Remember fountain pens? Smeary, smelly ink that got all over your fingers and took forever to dry. You had to write each letter by hand. And there was no such thing as white-out. Make a mistake? Do the whooole page over. :-( Ball point pens came out a few years later. And white out too. Wheee.Calculators did not come out 'till after I was out of college. Changed the world - if you could afford one, that is. We use CAD to design things today. Back in college we used something called a drafting board. And we used hand-held devices called PENCILS. They were better than fountain pens because you could actually erase your mistakesand not have to do the whole page over. :-) The first computer I ever used had tubes in it. It cost a million dollars and would add, subtract, multiply, and divide. Programming was in assembly language. Punch cards and green-bar printouts. Advanced technology? Well, maybe. Make mistake? Do the whole punch card over. And watch out for hanging chad. Whoops, no, we didn't have hanging chad back then. Thatwas invented in the election of 2000. Kids today don't know how easy they have it. Hey, kids 10 years ago don't know how easy they had it, either. The fun (and funny) thing about all this is that every generation says the same thing about how easy their kids have it. And it'll probably be true 100 years from now. Diane Gaskill Lockheed-Martin Space Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roberts, Katie Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 12:32 PM To: framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: Funny I'm 47 and have been taking on-line classes since 2002. It is great! It is so much better to be able to attend classes in your pajamas. Way back, in the long, long ago, I had to type my reports on a manual typewriter and depended heavily on white out or the correction paper. Heck, I even used a telex machine in one of my first jobs. Thank heavens for technology. Katie Roberts Ohmart/VEGA Corp. Cincinnati, OH 513-272-0524x167 The important thing is not to stop questioning. Albert Einstein Vote for Char James-Tanny for STC International Secretary! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:framers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Malin Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:51 PM To: Gillian Flato; framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: Funny What really *bugs* me (and I'm *much* older than 30) is how good sciencestudents in college got it now. I majored in Chemistry in undergrad. I had to type science papers on a portable typewriter, make photocopies of instrument outputs or data plots and then do a massive paste-up job. We had primitive calculators,but also relied on slide rules. Need something from an instrument or a test? Get up at 2 am and *walk to the source*. Ugh. Did computer science in grad school. On a mainframe (double ugh). No dial-up; had ride downtown to the computer lab to get on a terminal, then hang around until 2 AM so turnaround on jobs was less than 20 minutes. Had to wait until *3 AM* to get access to the computer graphicsequipment. I wouldn't wish any of it on a blind dog. I'm not better for having done it the hard way, just probably more burned out
