RE: The Zapfdingbats Font Family is not available. (Was: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!)
To be very clear, Adobe has not shipped a copy of Zapf Dingbats with FrameMaker since FrameMaker 5.5.6 if I recall correctly. However, in fact, every printer with Adobe PostScript 3 still ships with a host-installable Type 1 (both for Windows and Macintosh) versions of Zapf Dingbats. The real issue appears to be not whether Adobe ships this font under what circumstances, but rather, whether the users install the font (assuming they have use of an Adobe PostScript 3 device) and a likely bug/omission in FrameMaker by which a font substitution is made without making a character remapping to Unicode at the same time. - Dov [cid:image001.png@01CDF919.2249C150] Dov Isaacs Principal Scientist Adobe Systems Incorporated +1 408.536.2896 (tel) +1 408.242.5161 (cell) isa...@adobe.commailto:isa...@adobe.com 345 Park Avenue San Jose, CA 95110-2704 USA http://www.adobe.comhttp://www.adobe.com/ Feel free to print this e-mail if your needs dictate hard copy. There is no need to feel guilty about printing! Paper is renewable and recyclable. ISAACS-MOBILE.corp.adobe.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Simon BUCH Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:16 AM To: Craig Ede Cc: framers Subject: The Zapfdingbats Font Family is not available. (Was: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!) Dear Craig, I experienced this same issue as my company's product reads in *alot* of XML content, and one of the customers panics whenever they see _any_ FrameMaker 'console' messages. The mapping appears to be made in an entity formats document: C:\Program Files\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker10\Structure\entfmts which has a rather historic comment that FrameMaker+SGML copies character formats and user variables from this file while importing SDATA entities from SGML documents. This isn't the first occurrence of where Adobe ships files that reference fonts that are no longer supplied, and probably won't be the last. // Simon BUCH inline: image001.png___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: The Zapfdingbats Font Family is not available. (Was: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!)
Make no such assumptions. Assume that for correct output you need the actual font on your editing system! - Dov [cid:image001.png@01CDF936.14256E40] Dov Isaacs Principal Scientist Adobe Systems Incorporated +1 408.536.2896 (tel) +1 408.242.5161 (cell) isa...@adobe.commailto:isa...@adobe.com 345 Park Avenue San Jose, CA 95110-2704 USA http://www.adobe.comhttp://www.adobe.com/ Feel free to print this e-mail if your needs dictate hard copy. There is no need to feel guilty about printing! Paper is renewable and recyclable. ISAACS-MOBILE.corp.adobe.com From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:37 AM To: Dov Isaacs; framers Subject: RE: The Zapfdingbats Font Family is not available. (Was: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!) Thanks for this clarification Dov. This simplifies things a great deal in that it implies that for any PS or PDF file that is destined to be sent to a high quality printing service bureau one can assume that allowing temporary font substitution in FM will not cause problems with final output having the correct font (since their devices will have Zapf-Dingbats installed). Or is that too optimistic a reading? Must the PS or PDF file be produced with that font available to FM on the machine producing the PS of PDF file? Craig From: isa...@adobe.commailto:isa...@adobe.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 03:24:20 -0800 Subject: RE: The Zapfdingbats Font Family is not available. (Was: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!) To be very clear, Adobe has not shipped a copy of Zapf Dingbats with FrameMaker since FrameMaker 5.5.6 if I recall correctly. However, in fact, every printer with Adobe PostScript 3 still ships with a host-installable Type 1 (both for Windows and Macintosh) versions of Zapf Dingbats. The real issue appears to be not whether Adobe ships this font under what circumstances, but rather, whether the users install the font (assuming they have use of an Adobe PostScript 3 device) and a likely bug/omission in FrameMaker by which a font substitution is made without making a character remapping to Unicode at the same time. - Dov inline: image001.png___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: The Zapfdingbats Font Family is not available. (Was: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!)
Thanks for this clarification Dov. This simplifies things a great deal in that it implies that for any PS or PDF file that is destined to be sent to a high quality printing service bureau one can assume that allowing temporary font substitution in FM will not cause problems with final output having the correct font (since their devices will have Zapf-Dingbats installed). Or is that too optimistic a reading? Must the PS or PDF file be produced with that font available to FM on the machine producing the PS of PDF file? Craig From: isa...@adobe.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 03:24:20 -0800 Subject: RE: The Zapfdingbats Font Family is not available. (Was: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic,but related in a way!) To be very clear, Adobe has not shipped a copy of Zapf Dingbats with FrameMaker since FrameMaker 5.5.6 if I recall correctly. However, in fact, every printer with Adobe PostScript 3 still ships with a host-installable Type 1 (both for Windows and Macintosh) versions of Zapf Dingbats. The real issue appears to be not whether Adobe ships this font under what circumstances, but rather, whether the users install the font (assuming they have use of an Adobe PostScript 3 device) and a likely bug/omission in FrameMaker by which a font substitution is made without making a character remapping to Unicode at the same time. - Dovattachment: image001.png___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
