RE: Track Edits in FrameMaker 10
Hi Rick, Similarly to Linda I moved from FM 8 to FM 10 on Windows 7 early this year. I use the Track Text Edits feature for all documents. My experience: o Mandatory for me to see exact changes: What exactly has changed. Which change do I have to communicate to others. Which file must be translated. o It's difficult to manage Track Text Edits and Conditions for the same text. Track Text Edits cover condition indicators. Conditions are often not maintained when I type in a section with conditions. Therefore I have to check the conditions for all new text. o Less crashes with FM 10 than with FM 8 in relationship with conditions and Track Text Edits. My FM 10 crashes seem to be related to that FM 10 expects books which are createad in FM 10. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of LGLists Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 7:43 PM To: 'Rick Quatro'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Track Edits in FrameMaker 10 Rick, I've been using FM 10 on Win 7 since January. I find that the track edits feature works well and similarly to FM 8. The advantage that FM 10 has, if I recall correctly, is that I can enable and disable tracking edits for a single document or for all documents in the book. That's very handy. I can also accept or reject changes at both levels. As others have reported, I, too, sometimes see instability that seems to be associated with using track edits. I'm not completely sure about why it happens sometimes and not other times, but track edit does seem to have issues after I've worked on a draft for while with track edits on and the book also uses conditions. The instability manifests itself as FM crashes when I try to update or save the book. It seems to accumulate somehow. I can use track edits for a while (several days, lots of changes), then the crashing starts. I've only solved the crashing by turning off track edits. Hope this helps. ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:32 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Track Edits in FrameMaker 10 I have a client that wants to know the pros and cons of the FrameMaker 10 Track Edits feature. I am not familiar enough with it to give them useful information. Any feedback from those using it would be appreciate it. Thank you very much. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Track Edits in FrameMaker 10
Hi Rick, I'll just split this up into a pro and con list. :) Bottom line up front: its a decent solution if you are using it for a small team with three writers or less but it does not scale well at all in terms of content OR the number of users making edits. You'd be better off just using the commenting functionality in acrobat reader if there's a lot of edits/lots of editors etc. Pros: -allows you to track new text added in and deleted text. Deleted text appears in red and new text appears in green. Note these are in fact hidden conditional text. -allows you track which user has made a change so you can search for particular edits by user. You can also filter the edits so you only see edits by a particular user or users. -TT edits can be controlled on the document and book level so you can flip on TT edits for a particular book or for just a single document. -enable or disable TT edits across an entire book via a single click. -accept or reject all TT edits across an entire book via a single click Cons: -no commenting functionality. If you want to make a comment, it will appear as new text. -no way to visually distinguish between editors. For example, if John Doe inserts text and George Smith also inserts text they both appear as green text. You just know its newly inserted text, you have to pay careful attention via other subtle visual cues that its separate editors. -can be really had to use if you use conditional text especially if the text is the same color as the hidden conditional text of the insertion and deletion edits. Note also that if you apply conditional text to TT edit text that this can corrupt the book and cause the book to crash each time you do an update and save. -each time you turn TT edits it generates the stupid back up files for each file in the book which you'll have to clean up each time. -if you have a collaborative editing process where many people need to review text, make edits, and comments, then the process becomes nightmarish because its really hard to tell how is commenting on what or who is responding to what comment. -overall stability of framemaker seems to go down when the TT edits is turned on. It might be better in framemaker 11. Joe ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Track Edits in FrameMaker 10
Rick, I've been using FM 10 on Win 7 since January. I find that the track edits feature works well and similarly to FM 8. The advantage that FM 10 has, if I recall correctly, is that I can enable and disable tracking edits for a single document or for all documents in the book. That's very handy. I can also accept or reject changes at both levels. As others have reported, I, too, sometimes see instability that seems to be associated with using track edits. I'm not completely sure about why it happens sometimes and not other times, but track edit does seem to have issues after I've worked on a draft for while with track edits on and the book also uses conditions. The instability manifests itself as FM crashes when I try to update or save the book. It seems to accumulate somehow. I can use track edits for a while (several days, lots of changes), then the crashing starts. I've only solved the crashing by turning off track edits. Hope this helps. ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:32 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Track Edits in FrameMaker 10 I have a client that wants to know the pros and cons of the FrameMaker 10 Track Edits feature. I am not familiar enough with it to give them useful information. Any feedback from those using it would be appreciate it. Thank you very much. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as li...@techcomplus.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lists%40techcomplus.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
