Re: degree symbol

2008-06-20 Thread Rene Stephenson
Wow, where to start...(inserting tongue in cheek). Help's help isn't helpful 
because:

1. The help author got boxed into using PDF output to try to 
demonstrate the power of PDF, when in reality it just reveals the extent of 
its limitations when you try to make a purse from a sow's ear.
2. The help author had too short of a timeline or too many overlapping 
deadlines or lack of access to the product in enough time to create the help 
content in time for delivery by frozen load deadline, because you can always do 
the same amount of work with fewer resources and never lose anything in the 
deliverable.

3. Perhaps the help author isn't a technical writer who has been 
trained in usability, audience analysis, etc., because anyone can write and 
anyone who can grasp technology and put together an email must be qualified to 
be a technical writer.

4. The help author's boss is more interested in saying yes to the 
project manager and product manager than in trusting what the qualified, 
well-trained, and seasoned help author advised would be the end result for the 
customer/user.
HA HA HA

 
Rene L. Stephenson



- Original Message 
From: Deirdre Reagan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alan Litchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Framer's List 
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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 5:59:31 PM
Subject: Re: degree symbol

Alt 0176 works indeed!  But I have to be on the number pad, not the
numbers across the top of the keyboard.

Anyone know why Help's help isn't helpful?

Deirdre

On 6/19/08, Alan Litchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Deirdre you crack me up :D

 On a PC I think you hold down alt and press 0176 (on a Mac at the moment so
 can't test it).

 Alan


 On 20/06/2008, at 9:38 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote:

 
  quick question -- FM 8.0 XP
 
  I need to make the degree symbol.  Help tells me to hit CNTL + m ).
 
  Cntl + M gives me the paragraph design dialog box.
 
  Help also tells me to write \degree and hit return.
 
  \degree with return gives me \degree
  and a paragraph mark.
 
  lol
 
  Is there something I'm supposed to be doing here that I'm missing?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Deirdre
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Re: degree symbol

2008-06-20 Thread Stuart Rogers
Shuttleworth, Roger wrote:
 The Character Sets PDF available from the Help menu lists the following for 
 Windows:
 
 Alt 0176  Symbol font CrtlQ, 0 - but gives it an infinity symbol!
 
 Alternatively, I find you can use Ctrl-Q,{ in the standard font (I'm using 
 Stone Serif).
   
 

Careful -- these shortcuts in FM are case-sensitive, and the symbols are 
not identical.

The first key combination is CTRL + q (lowercase, not Q).
Following that with a curly bracket produces the Ring symbol (an accent 
used in some languages).
Following CTRL + q with a less-than sign produces the degree symbol.

(If you type one after the other, you'll see there is a difference in 
appearance between the ring and the degree symbols.)

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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RE: degree symbol

2008-06-19 Thread Owen, Clint
 Try ALT+ 0176  °


Clint


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deirdre Reagan
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:38 PM
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Subject: degree symbol

quick question -- FM 8.0 XP

I need to make the degree symbol.  Help tells me to hit CNTL + m ).

Cntl + M gives me the paragraph design dialog box.

Help also tells me to write \degree and hit return.

\degree with return gives me \degree
and a paragraph mark.

lol

Is there something I'm supposed to be doing here that I'm missing?

Thanks!

Deirdre
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Re: degree symbol

2008-06-19 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Alt 0176 works indeed!  But I have to be on the number pad, not the
numbers across the top of the keyboard.

Anyone know why Help's help isn't helpful?

Deirdre

On 6/19/08, Alan Litchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Deirdre you crack me up :D

 On a PC I think you hold down alt and press 0176 (on a Mac at the moment so
 can't test it).

 Alan


 On 20/06/2008, at 9:38 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote:

 
  quick question -- FM 8.0 XP
 
  I need to make the degree symbol.  Help tells me to hit CNTL + m ).
 
  Cntl + M gives me the paragraph design dialog box.
 
  Help also tells me to write \degree and hit return.
 
  \degree with return gives me \degree
  and a paragraph mark.
 
  lol
 
  Is there something I'm supposed to be doing here that I'm missing?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Deirdre
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Re: degree symbol

2008-06-19 Thread Alan Litchfield
It's a guy thing ;)

On 20/06/2008, at 9:59 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote:

 Alt 0176 works indeed!  But I have to be on the number pad, not the
 numbers across the top of the keyboard.

 Anyone know why Help's help isn't helpful?

 Deirdre

 On 6/19/08, Alan Litchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Deirdre you crack me up :D

 On a PC I think you hold down alt and press 0176 (on a Mac at the  
 moment so
 can't test it).

 Alan


 On 20/06/2008, at 9:38 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote:


 quick question -- FM 8.0 XP

 I need to make the degree symbol.  Help tells me to hit CNTL + m ).

 Cntl + M gives me the paragraph design dialog box.

 Help also tells me to write \degree and hit return.

 \degree with return gives me \degree
 and a paragraph mark.

 lol

 Is there something I'm supposed to be doing here that I'm missing?

 Thanks!

 Deirdre
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