Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
Still, this is a known “feature” of Microsoft Windows. It always has been. The issue of fonts and PostScript printer instances have always been iffy with Microsoft. > On Apr 10, 2019, at 13:55, Mike Wickham wrote: > > Rick, > > As far as I know, that warning message can't be turned off. It is FrameMaker > warning you that changing printer drivers may cause your document to > reformat. Most people think that changing the print driver just changes where > the document will print, but it does more than that. The characteristics of > the driver also determine how the document will display on screen. Usually, > this makes little difference, maybe not even a noticeable difference. But, > sometimes, as you have seen, it changes the word- or line-breaks and can > cause an extra line of text to appear in a paragraph, bump the last line of a > table to the next page, or force a graphic to the next column or page. This > can throw off the appearance of pages, rippling all the way forward. And if > you are preparing for a press printed book, it can, for example, cause the > need to print 17 pages, when the signature (the folded stack of pages that > will be sewn into a book) is only 16 pages. > > This is why it became best practice to use SetPrint to automatically set > AdobePDF as the default printer for FM when it loads. What you then see on > screen will always be exactly what you see in the PDF and, then, the PDF will > always be exactly what you see on _any_ printer or on _any_ other computer > screen. Then, of course, you would print the PDF, rather than the .fm file, > to your printer. > > If you don't want to use SetPrint, you might see if your desktop printer has > an option to download fonts, instead of using internal fonts. This is a > little slower, because it means that the printer must retrieve the fonts from > your computer, rather than using whatever version of them it has hardwired, > but I _think_ it might help with the reformatting. > > Mike > >> On 4/9/2019 2:46 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: >> Hi Framers, >> >> When I save as PDF, FrameMaker automatically changes the printer driver to >> Adobe PDF. So far so good, but I get this message: >> >> "The font information for your system has changed. This change may affect >> the format and output of your document(s)." >> >> Most of the time this doesn't matter, but I do occasionally get different >> line breaks even when I am just using Arial in my document. When the PDF is >> done, the line breaks in the FrameMaker file change back to the way they >> were as the printer driver is changed back to my default. Is there a good >> solution that will prevent this from happening? >> >> >> I have tried unchecking the "Rely in system fonts only; do not use document >> fonts" checkbox, but that doesn't seem to make a difference. Thanks in >> advance. >> >> >> Rick >> >> >> Rick Quatro >> >> Carmen Publishing Inc. >> >> r...@frameexpert.com >> >> 585-729-6746 >> >> www.frameexpert.com/store/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> This message is from the Framers mailing list >> >> Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >> Archives located at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >> Subscribe and unsubscribe at >> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com >> >> > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
Rick, As far as I know, that warning message can't be turned off. It is FrameMaker warning you that changing printer drivers may cause your document to reformat. Most people think that changing the print driver just changes where the document will print, but it does more than that. The characteristics of the driver also determine how the document will display on screen. Usually, this makes little difference, maybe not even a noticeable difference. But, sometimes, as you have seen, it changes the word- or line-breaks and can cause an extra line of text to appear in a paragraph, bump the last line of a table to the next page, or force a graphic to the next column or page. This can throw off the appearance of pages, rippling all the way forward. And if you are preparing for a press printed book, it can, for example, cause the need to print 17 pages, when the signature (the folded stack of pages that will be sewn into a book) is only 16 pages. This is why it became best practice to use SetPrint to automatically set AdobePDF as the default printer for FM when it loads. What you then see on screen will always be exactly what you see in the PDF and, then, the PDF will always be exactly what you see on _any_ printer or on _any_ other computer screen. Then, of course, you would print the PDF, rather than the .fm file, to your printer. If you don't want to use SetPrint, you might see if your desktop printer has an option to download fonts, instead of using internal fonts. This is a little slower, because it means that the printer must retrieve the fonts from your computer, rather than using whatever version of them it has hardwired, but I _think_ it might help with the reformatting. Mike On 4/9/2019 2:46 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: Hi Framers, When I save as PDF, FrameMaker automatically changes the printer driver to Adobe PDF. So far so good, but I get this message: "The font information for your system has changed. This change may affect the format and output of your document(s)." Most of the time this doesn't matter, but I do occasionally get different line breaks even when I am just using Arial in my document. When the PDF is done, the line breaks in the FrameMaker file change back to the way they were as the printer driver is changed back to my default. Is there a good solution that will prevent this from happening? I have tried unchecking the "Rely in system fonts only; do not use document fonts" checkbox, but that doesn't seem to make a difference. Thanks in advance. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 www.frameexpert.com/store/ ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
I would have sworn that at some point (maybe around version 9??) FrameMaker was improved to allow you to set a "local" default printer that was independent from the Windows printer selection. Did I completely hallucinate that? I have a pretty clear memory that after some point I no longer installed the setprint plugin with updated versions of FramMaker and never saw the infamous "printer metrics have changed" message when making a PDF. -FR From: Framers on behalf of quills Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 7:21 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer I believe you are correct. The system will use the whichever printer instance is the default. Save As PDF is the least reliable way to do this. The setprint.dll works very well and let’s us print with a certain level of confidence. > On Apr 9, 2019, at 17:59, Carol J. Elkins wrote: > > Ditto what Tammy said. That's how I've done it for the past forever. > > Carol > > At 03:07 PM 4/9/2019, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote: >> Rick, >> >> Can you have the AdobePDF printer set as the default printer when using FM? >> The Sundorne SetPrint utility >> does this automatically for you. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
Just to summarize, as I think some people are confused by references to application versus operating system: Running setprint with 32-bit FrameMaker on 32-bit Windows: works Running setprint with 32-bit FrameMaker on 64-bit Windows: works Running setprint with 64-bit FrameMaker on 64-bit Windows: does not work Running setprint with 64-bit FrameMaker on 32-bit Windows: not possible to install 64-bit FrameMaker on 32-bit Windows (as far as I know) -Dan -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of quills Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:37 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer No. SetPrint will work on a 64-bit system running a 32-bit version of FrameMaker. We do. > On Apr 10, 2019, at 09:23, Carol J. Elkins wrote: > > Ah, I wasn't sure how to check that. I Googled and learned that a program > running 32-bit should show that on Task Manager. Since there was no *32 > showing for Framemaker, I decided it was 64-bit. So, perhaps newer 64-bit > versions of Frame can't use the SetPrint plugin. Which brings you back to the > place that you started. Bummer! > > Carol > > At 08:17 AM 4/10/2019, Rick Quatro wrote: >> FrameMaker 12 is 32-bit even though it runs on 64-bit Windows 7. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Framers >> On Behalf >> Of Carol J. Elkins >> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:50 AM >> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer >> >> I'm using FrameMaker12 on Windows7. All 64-bit. And the SetPrint >> plugin is running fine. >> >> Carol >> >> At 05:29 PM 4/9/2019, Harding, Dan wrote: >> >One thing to keep in mind is that the Setprint utility is not viable >> >if you are using 64-bit FrameMaker. It's only compatible with 32-bit >> >FrameMaker. > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
No. SetPrint will work on a 64-bit system running a 32-bit version of FrameMaker. We do. > On Apr 10, 2019, at 09:23, Carol J. Elkins wrote: > > Ah, I wasn't sure how to check that. I Googled and learned that a program > running 32-bit should show that on Task Manager. Since there was no *32 > showing for Framemaker, I decided it was 64-bit. So, perhaps newer 64-bit > versions of Frame can't use the SetPrint plugin. Which brings you back to the > place that you started. Bummer! > > Carol > > At 08:17 AM 4/10/2019, Rick Quatro wrote: >> FrameMaker 12 is 32-bit even though it runs on 64-bit Windows 7. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Framers On >> Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins >> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:50 AM >> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer >> >> I'm using FrameMaker12 on Windows7. All 64-bit. And the SetPrint plugin is >> running fine. >> >> Carol >> >> At 05:29 PM 4/9/2019, Harding, Dan wrote: >> >One thing to keep in mind is that the Setprint utility is not viable if >> >you are using 64-bit FrameMaker. It's only compatible with 32-bit >> >FrameMaker. > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
Hi Carol, None of the plugins originally compiled for 32-bit FrameMaker (2017 and below) will run on the 64-bit version of FrameMaker 2019. When you use Save As PDF, you don't really need SetPrint anyway because FrameMaker automatically switches to the Adobe PDF printer in the background. I am trying to have the best of both worlds: I want to be able to print to my Brother printer from FrameMaker and also Save As PDF without FrameMaker recomposing my document. I don't want to have to set FrameMaker to use the Adobe PDF Printer make a PDF before printing my document. But that may be what I have to do. Thanks to everyone that replied. Rick -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:23 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. ; 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer Ah, I wasn't sure how to check that. I Googled and learned that a program running 32-bit should show that on Task Manager. Since there was no *32 showing for Framemaker, I decided it was 64-bit. So, perhaps newer 64-bit versions of Frame can't use the SetPrint plugin. Which brings you back to the place that you started. Bummer! Carol At 08:17 AM 4/10/2019, Rick Quatro wrote: >FrameMaker 12 is 32-bit even though it runs on 64-bit Windows 7. > >-Original Message- >From: Framers > On Behalf Of >Carol J. Elkins >Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:50 AM >To: framers@lists.frameusers.com >Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer > >I'm using FrameMaker12 on Windows7. All 64-bit. And the SetPrint plugin >is running fine. > >Carol > >At 05:29 PM 4/9/2019, Harding, Dan wrote: > >One thing to keep in mind is that the Setprint utility is not viable > >if you are using 64-bit FrameMaker. It's only compatible with 32-bit > >FrameMaker. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
I just installed SetPrint on FM12 running on a 64 bit system. Works like a charm! Tom Beiswenger Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation Emhart Glass Inc. 74 Kahler Road North • Horseheads NY 14845 • USA Telephone 1 607 735 2551 • Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 735 2601 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com www.bucheremhartglass.com www.bucherindustries.com Privacy Policy: www.bucheremhartglass.com/privacy -"Framers" wrote: - To: "'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'" From: "Rick Quatro" Sent by: "Framers" Date: 04/10/2019 10:18AM Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer FrameMaker 12 is 32-bit even though it runs on 64-bit Windows 7. -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:50 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer I'm using FrameMaker12 on Windows7. All 64-bit. And the SetPrint plugin is running fine. Carol At 05:29 PM 4/9/2019, Harding, Dan wrote: >One thing to keep in mind is that the Setprint utility is not viable if >you are using 64-bit FrameMaker. It's only compatible with 32-bit >FrameMaker. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=qvATnk5wgpA9GoMqJbCPbh9G6SkZtuZsJKbNuLJPHrc=QeesWtriBbeWerJWMXPuayay9VBr47Z6AgvO41U_H1w= Archives located at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_framers-2540lists.frameusers.com_=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=qvATnk5wgpA9GoMqJbCPbh9G6SkZtuZsJKbNuLJPHrc=hi27H0AtHRpEJJnV5HVBwZdmJxqun-n2UvidSKp6DJE= Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.frameusers.com_listinfo.cgi_framers-2Dframeusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=qvATnk5wgpA9GoMqJbCPbh9G6SkZtuZsJKbNuLJPHrc=o-2ebI91Td8o2DRfxly6logUnU6zTjdg7BVfLAkcP8I= Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=qvATnk5wgpA9GoMqJbCPbh9G6SkZtuZsJKbNuLJPHrc=QeesWtriBbeWerJWMXPuayay9VBr47Z6AgvO41U_H1w= Archives located at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_framers-2540lists.frameusers.com_=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=qvATnk5wgpA9GoMqJbCPbh9G6SkZtuZsJKbNuLJPHrc=hi27H0AtHRpEJJnV5HVBwZdmJxqun-n2UvidSKp6DJE= Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.frameusers.com_listinfo.cgi_framers-2Dframeusers.com=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=qvATnk5wgpA9GoMqJbCPbh9G6SkZtuZsJKbNuLJPHrc=o-2ebI91Td8o2DRfxly6logUnU6zTjdg7BVfLAkcP8I= Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Image.132038673927.png Type: image/png Size: 11081 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers-frameusers.com/attachments/20190410/f36918fd/attachment.png> ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
Ah, I wasn't sure how to check that. I Googled and learned that a program running 32-bit should show that on Task Manager. Since there was no *32 showing for Framemaker, I decided it was 64-bit. So, perhaps newer 64-bit versions of Frame can't use the SetPrint plugin. Which brings you back to the place that you started. Bummer! Carol At 08:17 AM 4/10/2019, Rick Quatro wrote: FrameMaker 12 is 32-bit even though it runs on 64-bit Windows 7. -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:50 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer I'm using FrameMaker12 on Windows7. All 64-bit. And the SetPrint plugin is running fine. Carol At 05:29 PM 4/9/2019, Harding, Dan wrote: >One thing to keep in mind is that the Setprint utility is not viable if >you are using 64-bit FrameMaker. It's only compatible with 32-bit >FrameMaker. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
FrameMaker 12 is 32-bit even though it runs on 64-bit Windows 7. -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:50 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer I'm using FrameMaker12 on Windows7. All 64-bit. And the SetPrint plugin is running fine. Carol At 05:29 PM 4/9/2019, Harding, Dan wrote: >One thing to keep in mind is that the Setprint utility is not viable if >you are using 64-bit FrameMaker. It's only compatible with 32-bit >FrameMaker. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
I'm using FrameMaker12 on Windows7. All 64-bit. And the SetPrint plugin is running fine. Carol At 05:29 PM 4/9/2019, Harding, Dan wrote: One thing to keep in mind is that the Setprint utility is not viable if you are using 64-bit FrameMaker. It's only compatible with 32-bit FrameMaker. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
I believe you are correct. The system will use the whichever printer instance is the default. Save As PDF is the least reliable way to do this. The setprint.dll works very well and let’s us print with a certain level of confidence. > On Apr 9, 2019, at 17:59, Carol J. Elkins wrote: > > Ditto what Tammy said. That's how I've done it for the past forever. > > Carol > > At 03:07 PM 4/9/2019, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote: >> Rick, >> >> Can you have the AdobePDF printer set as the default printer when using FM? >> The Sundorne SetPrint utility >> (http://sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm ) does this >> automatically for you. >> >> -Original Message- >> When I save as PDF, FrameMaker automatically changes the printer driver to >> Adobe PDF. So far so good, but I get this message: >> >> "The font information for your system has changed. This change may affect >> the format and output of your document(s)." > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
One thing to keep in mind is that the Setprint utility is not viable if you are using 64-bit FrameMaker. It's only compatible with 32-bit FrameMaker. -Dan -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:08 PM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer Rick, Can you have the AdobePDF printer set as the default printer when using FM? The Sundorne SetPrint utility (http://sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm ) does this automatically for you. Here's what I know about this issue as I asked about this a long time ago for the very same reasons (If I am understanding you correctly): In order to get the best quality output from FrameMaker, you should first create PDFs using Adobe PDF, then print the PDF. This results in better images and a more trouble-free workflow. However, you might want your other Windows print jobs to go to your normal desktop or network printer. Unfortunately, when FrameMaker initializes, it simply sets its printer to the Windows default printer. So if you want to use a desktop printer for your other work, but use Adobe PDF for all your FrameMaker documents, you have to manually change the printer every time you start FrameMaker. SetPrint changes that. It will automatically set your printer every time you start FrameMaker, and you can also call it as a client from FrameScript or FrameMaker plugins. If I am way off base, then my bad. . . Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:46 PM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer Hi Framers, When I save as PDF, FrameMaker automatically changes the printer driver to Adobe PDF. So far so good, but I get this message: "The font information for your system has changed. This change may affect the format and output of your document(s)." Most of the time this doesn't matter, but I do occasionally get different line breaks even when I am just using Arial in my document. When the PDF is done, the line breaks in the FrameMaker file change back to the way they were as the printer driver is changed back to my default. Is there a good solution that will prevent this from happening? I have tried unchecking the "Rely in system fonts only; do not use document fonts" checkbox, but that doesn't seem to make a difference. Thanks in advance. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 www.frameexpert.com/store/ ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
Ditto what Tammy said. That's how I've done it for the past forever. Carol At 03:07 PM 4/9/2019, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote: Rick, Can you have the AdobePDF printer set as the default printer when using FM? The Sundorne SetPrint utility (http://sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm ) does this automatically for you. -Original Message- When I save as PDF, FrameMaker automatically changes the printer driver to Adobe PDF. So far so good, but I get this message: "The font information for your system has changed. This change may affect the format and output of your document(s)." ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer
Rick, Can you have the AdobePDF printer set as the default printer when using FM? The Sundorne SetPrint utility (http://sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm ) does this automatically for you. Here's what I know about this issue as I asked about this a long time ago for the very same reasons (If I am understanding you correctly): In order to get the best quality output from FrameMaker, you should first create PDFs using Adobe PDF, then print the PDF. This results in better images and a more trouble-free workflow. However, you might want your other Windows print jobs to go to your normal desktop or network printer. Unfortunately, when FrameMaker initializes, it simply sets its printer to the Windows default printer. So if you want to use a desktop printer for your other work, but use Adobe PDF for all your FrameMaker documents, you have to manually change the printer every time you start FrameMaker. SetPrint changes that. It will automatically set your printer every time you start FrameMaker, and you can also call it as a client from FrameScript or FrameMaker plugins. If I am way off base, then my bad. . . Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:46 PM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer Hi Framers, When I save as PDF, FrameMaker automatically changes the printer driver to Adobe PDF. So far so good, but I get this message: "The font information for your system has changed. This change may affect the format and output of your document(s)." Most of the time this doesn't matter, but I do occasionally get different line breaks even when I am just using Arial in my document. When the PDF is done, the line breaks in the FrameMaker file change back to the way they were as the printer driver is changed back to my default. Is there a good solution that will prevent this from happening? I have tried unchecking the "Rely in system fonts only; do not use document fonts" checkbox, but that doesn't seem to make a difference. Thanks in advance. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 www.frameexpert.com/store/ ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
