RE: Automating the application of Master Pages

2007-05-08 Thread Alexandra Wilowska
Thanks for the responses - I'm just back from the long UK holiday weekend.

It had never occurred to me that having all master pages defined in a single
template (I inherited it some years ago and have added to it occasionally,
but have never had to set a template up from scratch) could be
disadvantageous so it was interesting to look at it in that light. I see
that if I separated the various custom master pages into appropriate
templates, defining the standard Left and Right pages in each template
accordingly, I would get Apply Master Pages to work.  Rick also pointed out
about the benefit of this approach regarding deletion of blank master pages
on save and correct application of master pages for new content. 

And yet, my instinct is still to keep the master pages together - resistance
to change, I suppose, and the knowledge that there is just a single template
to maintain. Coincidentally, this Apply Master Pages issue arose in the
first place because I used to have a separate template for landscape
chapters, but now I need to cater for the possibility of mixed portrait and
landscape pages in the same chapter, so I thought it would be sensible to
bring the landscape pages into the standard template and save having to
think about separate templates, and then I thought that whilst I was at it
I'd take a look at Apply Master Pages. Turns out perhaps I should have been
heading the other way all along!

 

I'll mull over all this for the future rather than leap in straight away
with a few new templates as it wasn't a big deal to do the master pages
manually. But I now know more about custom master pages which is really
useful, so thank you.

 

Alexandra Wilowska

 

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Re: Automating the application of Master Pages

2007-05-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 23:53 +0200 4/5/07, Michael Müller-Hillebrand wrote:

So for a TOC you could define rules for the (unique) TOC paragraph formats to 
switch to the custom masterpages in single page mode.

This is true, and your approach is valid. However, it is perhaps a special 
case, particularly as the original poster, Alexandra Wilowska, is using 
unstructured FrameMaker, making this solution inaccessible to her.

It would be interesting to see if a consensus of 'best practise' appears over 
master page maintenance for books. It is a parallel argument to the one about 
maintaining paragraph and character tags per-document vs. book-wide - another 
issue I can never really decide on myself.

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Steve
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Re: Automating the application of Master Pages

2007-05-04 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:08 +0100 4/5/07, Alexandra Wilowska wrote:

I would like to set things up so as to: map Preface Heading para to the 
Preface First master page, then for each subsequent left/right page apply 
Preface Left or Preface Right, until a Chapter Heading para is encountered, 
whereupon map that para to a Chapter First master page, apply it and apply 
subsequent Chapter Left and Right pages etc. I have the same issue with 
appendices, but you get the idea.

As you have found you, automatic mater pages map to para tags. Leaving aside 
the SP tool, which is about the only one of their products I don't yet use, you 
have two choices:

. Create unique tags wherever you need unique pages (bad)

. Set up the left/right master pages to be specific to book sections (better)

I don't personally like the idea of keeping every master page in every book 
section, but it does get around the danger of importing the wrong master pages 
by accident.

This whole area is even more of a problem when you are trying to set up a 
structured FrameMaker book for round-tripping, but fortunately that's an issue 
you don't have to contend with.

I'd be interested to hear if higher-kyu FrameMaker masters than a mere blue 
belt like me have any more elegant or ingenious methods.

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Steve
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