Re: Changing Printers

2008-07-25 Thread Paul Findon
Thanks to Art, Stuart, Fred, and Mike for your wise words.

We use only PostScript printers and virtually all output is to PDF  
these days, so I guess there's no need to worry.

Has anyone ever experienced a problem with a particular printer/font?

Paul


On 24 Jul 2008, at 21:36, Mike Feimster wrote:

 There is a plug-in called Set Print you can get at
 http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm that  
 allows you
 set your Windows default printer to what you normally print to and  
 your
 FrameMaker default printer to Acrobat.

 Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art  
 Campbell
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:32 AM
 To: Paul Findon
 Cc: FrameUsers List
 Subject: Re: Changing Printers

 Assuming you mostly work with PostScript printers and PDFs, if you set
 the system default printer to Adobe PDF / Acrobat, you should be fine.

 The problem is that some printers have their own embedded fonts  
 that are
 different than the system's fonts or the system's versions of those
 fonts. They aren't part of the Windows system, but they can be  
 accessed
 on the printer. If the font appears to be available to the system as a
 remote resource, it'll use it. But it can't be embedded in a PDF, for
 instance, and won't travel with the file to another system that  
 doesn't
 use that printer.

 A

 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Paul Findon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Framers,

 With Mac FrameMaker, changing the printer made no difference to
 FrameMaker in regard to fonts. With Windows FrameMaker, however,
 changing the printer causes FrameMaker to display the following
 somewhat worrying message: The font information for your system has
 changed. This change may affect the format and output of your
 documents.

 Can someone please explain what's actually occurring here, how to
 avoid any pitfalls, etc?

 Paul
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Re: Changing Printers

2008-07-24 Thread Art Campbell
Assuming you mostly work with PostScript printers and PDFs, if you set
the system default printer to Adobe PDF / Acrobat, you should be fine.

The problem is that some printers have their own embedded fonts that
are different than the system's fonts or the system's versions of
those fonts. They aren't part of the Windows system, but they can be
accessed on the printer. If the font appears to be available to the
system as a remote resource, it'll use it. But it can't be embedded in
a PDF, for instance, and won't travel with the file to another system
that doesn't use that printer.

A

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Paul Findon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Framers,

 With Mac FrameMaker, changing the printer made no difference to
 FrameMaker in regard to fonts. With Windows FrameMaker, however,
 changing the printer causes FrameMaker to display the following
 somewhat worrying message: The font information for your system has
 changed. This change may affect the format and output of your
 documents.

 Can someone please explain what's actually occurring here, how to
 avoid any pitfalls, etc?

 Paul
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Re: Changing Printers

2008-07-24 Thread Stuart Rogers
Art Campbell wrote:
 Assuming you mostly work with PostScript printers and PDFs, if you set
 the system default printer to Adobe PDF / Acrobat, you should be fine.
 
 The problem is that some printers have their own embedded fonts that
 are different than the system's fonts or the system's versions of
 those fonts. They aren't part of the Windows system, but they can be
 accessed on the printer. If the font appears to be available to the
 system as a remote resource, it'll use it. But it can't be embedded in
 a PDF, for instance, and won't travel with the file to another system
 that doesn't use that printer.
 
 A
 
 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Paul Findon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Framers,

 With Mac FrameMaker, changing the printer made no difference to
 FrameMaker in regard to fonts. With Windows FrameMaker, however,
 changing the printer causes FrameMaker to display the following
 somewhat worrying message: The font information for your system has
 changed. This change may affect the format and output of your
 documents.

 Can someone please explain what's actually occurring here, how to
 avoid any pitfalls, etc?

 Paul
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Paul,

I recommend the free Setprint plug-in from Sundorne,
http://sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm

It will make Adobe PDF your default printer within FM without affecting 
your other applications, which can continue to use your default physical 
printer.

You may also find that the driver for your physical printer has an 
option to report its fonts to the operating system -- if it does, try 
turning that option off.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
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Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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RE: Changing Printers

2008-07-24 Thread Fred Ridder

Paul Findon wrote:
 
 With Mac FrameMaker, changing the printer made no difference to 
 FrameMaker in regard to fonts. With Windows FrameMaker, however, 
 changing the printer causes FrameMaker to display the following 
 somewhat worrying message: The font information for your system has 
 changed. This change may affect the format and output of your 
 documents.
 
 Can someone please explain what's actually occurring here, how to 
 avoid any pitfalls, etc?
 
On a Windows system, the font metrics (the precise width and height
dimensions of each and every glyph and space) are part of the printer
driver. When you change from one printer to another, you are also
inevitably changing to a different set of font metrics data, which may
or may not be different in a significant way. If you are switching between
two different PostScript printers of similar resolution, any differences 
should be small enough to be insignificant. But if you are switching 
between PostScript and non-PostScript (e.g. PCL or clone-script)
printers or between printers of very different resolutions, the tiny 
differences in character-by-character dimensions can add up to a
large enough degree that it can affect a few of your line breaks. And
changes in a line break or two can affect the length of a paragraph;
and changes in the length of a paragraph or two can affect the page
breaks; and changes in page breaks can affect the length of a chapter;
and any change in the length of a chapter can affect the pagination
for a large part of your document and render the page numbers in your
generated files inaccurate. 
 
FrameMaker has no way of knowing whether any of these cascading 
changes have actually occurred when the font metrics were changed, 
but warns you that such changes *might* have occurred.
 
Fred Ridder
 
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RE: Changing Printers

2008-07-24 Thread Mike Feimster
There is a plug-in called Set Print you can get at
http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm that allows you
set your Windows default printer to what you normally print to and your
FrameMaker default printer to Acrobat.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:32 AM
To: Paul Findon
Cc: FrameUsers List
Subject: Re: Changing Printers

Assuming you mostly work with PostScript printers and PDFs, if you set
the system default printer to Adobe PDF / Acrobat, you should be fine.

The problem is that some printers have their own embedded fonts that are
different than the system's fonts or the system's versions of those
fonts. They aren't part of the Windows system, but they can be accessed
on the printer. If the font appears to be available to the system as a
remote resource, it'll use it. But it can't be embedded in a PDF, for
instance, and won't travel with the file to another system that doesn't
use that printer.

A

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Paul Findon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Framers,

 With Mac FrameMaker, changing the printer made no difference to 
 FrameMaker in regard to fonts. With Windows FrameMaker, however, 
 changing the printer causes FrameMaker to display the following 
 somewhat worrying message: The font information for your system has 
 changed. This change may affect the format and output of your 
 documents.

 Can someone please explain what's actually occurring here, how to 
 avoid any pitfalls, etc?

 Paul
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