Re: FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8

2009-05-28 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Helen

(I'll make sure to use the spell-checker this time.;-))

I have FrameMaker 6, 7.2, 8 and 9 living in peaceful coexistence with
Acrobat 3D 8.1.3 on my computer (Windows XP, SP3). I can do a Save as PDF
from any FrameMaker version without any problems. DITA to PDF works fine
too.

There have been some posts about the FrameMaker and Acrobat issue before on
this list and you can take Dov Isaac's advice on this. You can find his
comments below. To summarize them:

   - Uninstall any other previous versions of Acrobat or Reader on your
   system, make sure to reboot, and then install Acrobat 8 Pro.
   - If you have ANY version of Acrobat 7 or 8 already installed on your
   system, you absolutely DON'T want the castrated version of
   Distiller that comes with FrameMaker 8.
   - If you are prompted to reboot your system after any uninstalls or after
   installing Acrobat 8, be sure to do so. The installation
   process depends on your doing that reboot immediately.

I don't think the installation order (FrameMaker or Acrobat first) matters
anymore.

These are Dov's comments:

_

It is NOT FrameMaker 8 which is the problem or that has to be
installed, it is that separate headless version of Distiller 8
that you let the FrameMaker 8 installer put on your system.
Uninstall that and/or any other previous versions of Acrobat or
Reader on your system, make sure to reboot, and then install
Acrobat 8 Pro.

If you have ANY version of Acrobat 7 or 8 already installed on
your system, you absolutely DON'T want the castrated version of
Distiller that comes with FrameMaker 8!

If you let FrameMaker's install perform the installation of
the stand-alone Distiller, make absolutely sure you UNINSTALL
that version of Distiller and reboot before attempting to
install any version of Acrobat!

In reality, it should not make any difference what order you
install Acrobat and FrameMaker with one caveat. If you are
installing the full Acrobat product (which you are), you must
NOT install the copy of Distiller bundled with FrameMaker.
If you have already installed that bundled Distiller, you
must totally uninstall it (and any other versions of Acrobat
and/or Reader on your system) prior to installing Acrobat 8.
If you are prompted to reboot your system after any uninstalls
or after installing Acrobat 8, be sure to do so. The installation
process depends on your doing that reboot immediately.

Although this has not been a problem in recent versions of
Acrobat, per the suggestion of another poster, you should make
sure that the FILE: port is not missing from your system.

To further complicate things, Acrobat 8 changed the location where
.joboptions files are stored. Acrobat 7 stored the .joboptions files
at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Adobe PDF\Settings.
That is where FrameMaker looks for them. Acrobat 8 (actually
Distiller 8) stores the bundled .joboptions files in
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\Adobe
PDF\Settings
and each user's personalized .joboption files in
C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Adobe\Adobe
PDF\Settings
where  is your Windows user id.
For FrameMaker 7.2 to work directly with Distiller 8 with the
save as feature, you must make sure that FrameMaker 7.2 sees
all your joboptions in
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Adobe PDF\Settings.


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Good luck.


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Re: FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8

2009-05-28 Thread Art Campbell
In addition to Yves' and Dov's accurate comments and advice, what
struck me about your post is that you might have run the same machine
without a rebuild for a long period of time. I always think that's a
good idea to rebuild a system every two or three years because they
simply get clogged with drek left over from installs and uninstalls,
new software, updates, and changes from routine operation.

If it's been a long time since you did a rebuild, you should consider
doing it now because you're already in the midst of a major overhaul.
It'll pay dividends by giving you a clean, faster system.

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On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Helen Borrie hele...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 At 07:10 PM 28/05/2009, Yves Barbion wrote:
Hi Helen

(I'll make sure to use the spell-checker this time.;-))

 The spell-checker spelled flawlessly. :-D

 Thanks for that response - it is *exactly* what I wanted to know.

 cheers,
 Helen

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Re: FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8

2009-05-28 Thread Bill Swallow
Yes, they can coexist nicely. Install FM8 first.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Helen Borrie hele...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Hi List,

 Can FM 8 and Acrobat Pro 8 coexist on the same machine?  If so, which should 
 be installed first to ensure that one gets the full functionality of 
 Distiller from both applications?

 Before I started with the 8 versions I had the respective 6 versions 
 working happily side by side.  So far, with both 6 versions out of the 
 picture I've encountered two weeks of horrible problems, including that the 
 uninstaller script for Acro 8 gets broken by the updates (specifically, the 
 Acro updates, as far as I can tell, with the bone pointing at 8.1.5).  This 
 requires hours of pick-and-shovel effort in the Registry and the filesystem 
 to clean out everything Adobe and start afresh.

 Currently I have achieved partial functionality by installing FM 8 first 
 (which is the only option to get Distiller installed) and then installing 
 only Reader 8 afterwards.  I can get the updates to both without (touch 
 wood!) breaking stuff.  However, I'm at a loss without the full Acro Pro 
 capabilities, at least until our legacy doc sources are converted to DITA, 
 because I still depend on the Sonar Bookends plug-in for post-processing 
 hot-links into the indexes of PDFs created with other tools.

 Any compatibility advice out there, gained from actual experience?

 Or should I just sigh and accept that I'll need to keep a legacy FM6 + Acro 
 Pro 6 setup on another box?

 Thanks, and apologies in advance for this being a bit OT.

 Helen

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