Re: Substituting a check box for a bullet in FrameMaker

2007-01-19 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:43 -0800 18/1/07, Karyn Hunt wrote:

   I want to put a check box in front of a list of items to create a
checklist. How can I do this in FrameMaker? My first thought was to
substitute a box for bullets, but is that possible? And if so, how is it
done? Or is there another way to accomplish this?

If you find that none of the Zapf Dingbats look like a checkbox, or you don't 
want 3-d checkboxes, or you don't want to mess with vertical registration, 
here's an orthogonal approach.

Set your checklist as a two column table. Turn off all ruling, and make the 
left-hand column the width of the checkbox you want. Place anchored frames in 
the left column, and use FrameMaker's graphics to draw a [plain] checkbox.

Failing that, just draw the checkboxes in an anchored frame and set it to run 
in to the paragraph on the left, and set the para's left indent to match the 
checkbox's width.

In my view this gives a checklist that is more representative of checklists 
generally than using dingbat fonts, which tend not to have plain squares 
(although I think Wingdings does).

-- 
Steve
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Re: Substituting a check box for a bullet in FrameMaker

2007-01-19 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
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From: Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 If you find that none of the Zapf Dingbats look like a checkbox, or you
don't want 3-d checkboxes,


And here's another option: the font Universal News with Commercial Pi has a
one-dimensional box, a checkmark, and a box with a checkmark already in it,
so you can make empty or checked checkboxes, either one as a bullet.

Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com

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Re: Substituting a check box for a bullet in FrameMaker

2007-01-18 Thread Art Campbell

Pretty easy

Create a new character format with everything set to AsIs except the
font, which needs to be ZapfDingbats.

Then modify the Bullet para tag slightly: change the Autonumber string
to something like this, so that it contains a lower case o: (o\t).
Paint the o with the new Zapf character format and save as a new para
tag. Paint the tab stop with the Default character tag so you switch
back to a text font after the box. Save again.

That's it.

Art

On 1/18/07, Karyn Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi All,

   I want to put a check box in front of a list of items to create a
checklist. How can I do this in FrameMaker? My first thought was to
substitute a box for bullets, but is that possible? And if so, how is it
done? Or is there another way to accomplish this?

Karyn




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Re: Substituting a check box for a bullet in FrameMaker

2007-01-18 Thread Rene Stephenson
Karyn,
  
  I'm sure there are other ways to do it, but the way we handle it is:
  1. Set up a new character format using the desired font that contains the 
kind of checkbox you want to use.
  2. Set up a new paragraph format using autonumbering with the character  
format you set up in step 1 and with the keystroke required for the  desired 
bullet in the autonumber format field.
  
  Be careful the font you choose for the bullet, because the size  required for 
the bullet to be as large as you want versus the size you  use for the font of 
the paragraph itself can have some odd effects on  the line spacing and 
vertical centering of the bullet by the paragraph  text.
  
  Good luck!
  Rene

Karyn Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi All,

   I want to put a check box in front of a list of items to create a 
checklist. How can I do this in FrameMaker? My first thought was to 
substitute a box for bullets, but is that possible? And if so, how is it 
done? Or is there another way to accomplish this?

Karyn 

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RE: Substituting a check box for a bullet in FrameMaker

2007-01-18 Thread Combs, Richard
Art Campbell wrote: 
 
 Create a new character format with everything set to AsIs 
 except the font, which needs to be ZapfDingbats.
 
 Then modify the Bullet para tag slightly: change the 
 Autonumber string to something like this, so that it contains 
 a lower case o: (o\t).
 Paint the o with the new Zapf character format and save as a 
 new para tag. Paint the tab stop with the Default character 
 tag so you switch back to a text font after the box. Save again.

The Zapf Dingbats font will work _if_ you have it installed on your PC.
If it's only available to you on a PostScript printer, then you won't be
able to use it to create PDFs. Another possibility is the Wingdings
font, which is pretty near ubiquitous on Windows PCs. 

In either of those fonts, there are four 3-D box characters you might
use: lower-case o, p, q, and r. For other font/character options, fire
up Character Map and look at whatever symbol fonts you have installed. 

I don't know what Art meant by Paint the o -- I'm only familiar with
format painting as a Word feature. In FM, on the Paragraph Designer's
Numbering tab, you apply a char format to the autonumber by selecting it
under Character Format. It applies to the entire autonumber string.
There's no need (or ability) to apply Default Pgf Format to the tab; the
char format you choose affects only the autonumber string. 

HTH!
Richard


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Re: Substituting a check box for a bullet in FrameMaker

2007-01-18 Thread Art Campbell

Richard,
It's possible to select different parts of the autonumber string and
apply a character format to 'em so you can affect format changes
within the string.
For instance, by painting part of the checkbox string, you can
invoke Zapf (or whatever) and then change fonts so whatever comes
after that uses a standard text font. Hence, you can paint the o
with a character format.
Art

On 1/18/07, Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Art Campbell wrote:

 Create a new character format with everything set to AsIs
 except the font, which needs to be ZapfDingbats.

 Then modify the Bullet para tag slightly: change the
 Autonumber string to something like this, so that it contains
 a lower case o: (o\t).
 Paint the o with the new Zapf character format and save as a
 new para tag. Paint the tab stop with the Default character
 tag so you switch back to a text font after the box. Save again.

The Zapf Dingbats font will work _if_ you have it installed on your PC.
If it's only available to you on a PostScript printer, then you won't be
able to use it to create PDFs. Another possibility is the Wingdings
font, which is pretty near ubiquitous on Windows PCs.

In either of those fonts, there are four 3-D box characters you might
use: lower-case o, p, q, and r. For other font/character options, fire
up Character Map and look at whatever symbol fonts you have installed.

I don't know what Art meant by Paint the o -- I'm only familiar with
format painting as a Word feature. In FM, on the Paragraph Designer's
Numbering tab, you apply a char format to the autonumber by selecting it
under Character Format. It applies to the entire autonumber string.
There's no need (or ability) to apply Default Pgf Format to the tab; the
char format you choose affects only the autonumber string.

HTH!
Richard


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RE: Substituting a check box for a bullet in FrameMaker

2007-01-18 Thread Combs, Richard
Art Campbell wrote:  
 
 Richard,
 It's possible to select different parts of the autonumber 
 string and apply a character format to 'em so you can affect 
 format changes within the string.

Not in FM 6 or 7. Is this one of the big enhancements in 7.2? It didn't
make Adobe's key new features list. :-) 

 For instance, by painting part of the checkbox string, you 
 can invoke Zapf (or whatever) and then change fonts so 
 whatever comes after that uses a standard text font. Hence, 
 you can paint the o
 with a character format.

I created a pgf and opened Paragraph Designer. On the Numbering tab, I
typed test format into the Autonumber Format box and clicked Apply.
Those words appeared at the start of my pgf in the pgf's default font. 

In the Autonumber Format box, I selected the word test only. Then,
under Character Format, I selected Emphasis, and then I clicked Apply
again. The entire autonumber string (test format) became italic. So, I
selected the word format only, selected Default P Font, and clicked
Apply again. The entire string returned to regular (Roman). 

In every FM version I've used, from 4 to 7, a char format can only be
applied to the entire autonumber string. 

In any case, there's simply no need to revert to the standard text font
-- the pgf itself, after the autonumber, is never affected by autonumber
char formatting. 

Richard


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