Re: Re: Template Override Madness

2012-08-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
You're sure the overrides aren't on the master or reference pages?

When I was cleaning up some legacy docs in FM10 recently, I found that
any time a character tag was applied to a whole paragraph it would
show up as an override. The only way I know to stop that is a kludge:
add a space at the end of the paragraph and close the character tag
before it. Alternatively, create additional paragraph tags.

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote:
 Further update:

 I downloaded, installed, and ran HuntOverrides and fixed all paragraph 
 overrides. A very nice tool! (http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/).

 However, it did not solve the problem. I suppose there must be other 
 overrides, such as tweaked text frames, still in play. I don't know how to 
 identify them, nor does creating a new document based on the template 
 eliminate them.
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RE: Template Override Madness

2012-08-23 Thread Craig Ede

You can try this.
 
Save a copy of your file. Delete everything on the body page (Cntrl-A, then 
Delete) and then flip back to the master page. Then flip back to the body page 
and accept everything that is on the master page that is set to come through to 
the body page. Don't add anything else. Then put your live text back into the 
empty text boxes that have been brought to the body page from the master page 
from the copy you saved earlier.
 
A lot of times the stuff that causes these messages are empty text lines where 
a person has the graphics text tool selected and then clicks onto the page but 
doesn't enter anything. This leaves an empty text line.
 
Also, it sounds like your template has overrides, so that should be fixed in 
this way, too.
 
Craig
 

 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 14:53:58 -0500
 From: ma...@verizon.net
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Template Override Madness
 
 Hi, all.
 
 I have been struggling with the Remove Overrides issue with the cover page 
 template for our user guides. It has a busy first page with a lot of text 
 flows, graphics, variables, etc.
 
 I could not identify the variation between the body page and the master page, 
 so I decided to create a brand new file based on the template file. If the 
 new one was clean, I would ditch the original and rename this one as the 
 template file.
 
 I created a new file and it looked great -- but it stiill has overrides! The 
 new file should use the master page as the basis for the body cover page, 
 correct? And since I haven't touched the brand new body cover page, I can't 
 have created any overrides. Yes
 
 NO! I still get the message.
 
 Other than flipping back and forth between the Body page and the Master page 
 in the original template file and hoping to spot the difference, I have no 
 idea how to fix this. 
 
 All suggestions gratefully received.
 
 --Nancy
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Re: Template Override Madness

2012-08-01 Thread Nancy Allison
Sorry, should have said I am using FM 10 in a Win 7 environment.

--Nancy
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Re: Re: Template Override Madness

2012-08-01 Thread Nancy Allison
Further update:
 
I downloaded, installed, and ran HuntOverrides and fixed all paragraph 
overrides. A very nice tool! (http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/).
 
However, it did not solve the problem. I suppose there must be other overrides, 
such as tweaked text frames, still in play. I don't know how to identify them, 
nor does creating a new document based on the template eliminate them.
 
--Nancy
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RE: Template Override Madness

2012-08-01 Thread Fred Ridder

When FrameMaker complains about overrides in relation to master pages, it is 
not talking about character format or paragraph format overides. Instead, it is 
talking about page layout overrides, such as the number, dimensions, and/or 
position of text frames, room for sideheads, etc. 
 
-Fred Ridder
 

 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 15:24:32 -0500
 From: ma...@verizon.net
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Re: Template Override Madness
 
 Further update:
 
 I downloaded, installed, and ran HuntOverrides and fixed all paragraph 
 overrides. A very nice tool! (http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/).
 
 However, it did not solve the problem. I suppose there must be other 
 overrides, such as tweaked text frames, still in play. I don't know how to 
 identify them, nor does creating a new document based on the template 
 eliminate them.
 
 --Nancy
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