Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-03 Thread Shmuel Wolfson 

You don't have to upgrade for that. Even 7.2 had these shortcuts.

Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
Repeat last char tag: Esc c c

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 2/2/2011 8:43 PM, Alison Craig wrote:

It's almost worth the upgrade cost just for that feature.

The one thing I've hated in the switch to FM9 (from Word) was that there was no 
F4 (repeat last) equivalent. It's particularly frustrating whenever I move 
another Word doc to Frame (I never import, I always save the DOC to text and 
reformat from scratch in FM - there are too many issues in large Word docs for 
me to trust a straight import. I'd much rather *know* I've started with a clean 
slate).

One keystroke beats three any day.

Alison

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Subject: RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?

  FM10's now got an F6 repeat last command (and icon on the toolbar)

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Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 8:39 AM
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Subject: Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?

On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:

Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?

For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in
Body format.  I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.

Thanks, Helen



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Repeat last char tag: Esc c c

best

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Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-03 Thread Klaus Daube 
On 2 Feb 2011 at 10:43, Alison Craig wrote:

 The one thing I've hated in the switch to FM9 (from Word) was that there
 was no F4 (repeat last) equivalent. It's particularly frustrating whenever
 I move another Word doc to Frame (I never import, I always save the DOC to
 text and reformat from scratch in FM - there are too many issues in large
 Word docs for me to trust a straight import. I'd much rather *know* I've
 started with a clean slate). 

With Shlomo Perets' Enhanced Tool Bars we have F4 and F5 since FM-5.5
See also FM8: http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker57.html
 FM9: http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker55.html

Klaus
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Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

2011-02-03 Thread Helen Borrie 
At 02:39 AM 3/02/2011, Stuart Rogers wrote:
>On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
>>Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
>>in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
>
>Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
>Repeat last char tag: Esc c c

Yeee!!  thank you very much!

Helen

Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

2011-02-03 Thread Helen Borrie 
At 01:25 AM 3/02/2011, Jerilynne \"MamaRed\" Knight wrote:

>Boy, that is one Word command I would love to have too...I'm not using 8, so I 
>don't know if there is one. 

I tried esc j j amd esc c c as suggested by Stuart and it does exactly the job 
I want.

>However, one possibility of speeding up the process: are there any unique 
>things identifying what equals a H1, H2, etc? Number of spaces, specific 
>characters, italic, bold?
>
>If so, what I do in those cases is a search and replace function. If you're a 
>super fancy person, you could write a script. If not, it is a serialized 
>function. 

Thanks for the thoughts on that, although in this instance, it's not what I 
want to do.  I actually *want* the source documents to come into the template 
without structure as they are from multiple sources with multiple ad hoc 
structures.  The template they are coming into is "structured unstructured" if 
you get my drift.  Although the content is for a monolithic book, I have 
designed the template to be able to convert the content to unstructured and 
round-trip it in future.

This project started as a structured DITA project and has wriggled its way back 
to unstructured once I lost the fight to find a way to do it structured and get 
the right output. With hindsight, I lost a lot (too much!) time by trying to 
make this book my first major DITA project.  Doesn't mean I have abandoned 
DITA/structured FM, by any means, just that it really does not work for this 
monolithic book!  I'm more than a year past deadline now. :-( 

So much for "I say".  I hope you won't mind if I post back your further 
comments to the list, as I think they are worth sharing

Jerilynne \"MamaRed\" Knight wrote:

>The other thing I did for a 6500 + page conversion from WordPerfect to Frame 
>is, oddly enough, run it through Word first. At the time, Word had a native 
>macro function and Frame didn't (I don't know if that has changed). So I 
>created a Word template with styles that matched those in Frame and wrote a 
>series of macros that applied tags, inserted codes for variables, etc. 
>
>Once it was written, it was very fast to bring in the file, click the macro 
>shortcut and poof, into Frame!
>
>I don't know how much converting you're doing or how frequently, so I wanted 
>to share those approaches in case they might give you some ideas!
>
>Many blessings
>Jerilynne

Thanks again to Jerilynne and others for the tips.
Cheers,
Helen

Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

2011-02-03 Thread Helen Borrie 
At 08:04 AM 3/02/2011, Helen Borrie wrote:
>The template they are coming into is "structured unstructured" if you get my 
>drift.  Although the content is for a monolithic book, I have designed the 
>template to be able to convert the content to unstructured and round-trip it 
>in future.

She meant to write:
"Although the content is for a monolithic book, I have designed the template to 
be able to convert the content to ***structured*** and round-trip it in future.

(So many words, so little time!)

Cheers,
Helen

Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

2011-02-03 Thread Shmuel Wolfson 
You don't have to upgrade for that. Even 7.2 had these shortcuts.

Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
Repeat last char tag: Esc c c

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 2/2/2011 8:43 PM, Alison Craig wrote:
> It's almost worth the upgrade cost just for that feature.
>
> The one thing I've hated in the switch to FM9 (from Word) was that there was 
> no F4 (repeat last) equivalent. It's particularly frustrating whenever I move 
> another Word doc to Frame (I never import, I always save the DOC to text and 
> reformat from scratch in FM - there are too many issues in large Word docs 
> for me to trust a straight import. I'd much rather *know* I've started with a 
> clean slate).
>
> One keystroke beats three any day.
>
> Alison
>
> Alison Craig, Technical Writer
> Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
> Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
> E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 6:36 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?
>
>   FM10's now got an F6 repeat last command (and icon on the toolbar)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 8:39 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?
>
> On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
>> Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
>> in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
>>
>> For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
>> sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in
>> Body format.  I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
>> 1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
>>
>> Thanks, Helen
>>
>
> Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
> Repeat last char tag: Esc c c
>
> best
>
> Stuart Rogers
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Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

2011-02-03 Thread Klaus Daube 
On 2 Feb 2011 at 10:43, Alison Craig wrote:

> The one thing I've hated in the switch to FM9 (from Word) was that there
> was no F4 (repeat last) equivalent. It's particularly frustrating whenever
> I move another Word doc to Frame (I never import, I always save the DOC to
> text and reformat from scratch in FM - there are too many issues in large
> Word docs for me to trust a straight import. I'd much rather *know* I've
> started with a clean slate). 

With Shlomo Perets' Enhanced Tool Bars we have F4 and F5 since FM-5.5
See also FM8: http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker57.html
 FM9: http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker55.html

Klaus
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Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
F: +41-44-422 86 25  E: ddd at daube.ch  W: www.daube.ch

Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-02 Thread Helen Borrie 
Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y in Word) 
whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction? 

For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various sources 
that I import into a templated document with all paras in Body format.  I'd 
like to be able to go through and tag all the Head 1 first, then all the Head 
2...and so on. 

Thanks,
Helen

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Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-02 Thread Stuart Rogers 

On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:

Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?

For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in
Body format.  I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.

Thanks, Helen




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RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-02 Thread Jeff Coatsworth 
 FM10's now got an F6 repeat last command (and icon on the toolbar)

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 8:39 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?

On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
 Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
 in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?

 For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
 sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in
 Body format.  I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
 1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.

 Thanks, Helen



Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
Repeat last char tag: Esc c c

best

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Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-02 Thread Helen Borrie 
At 02:39 AM 3/02/2011, Stuart Rogers wrote:
On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?

Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
Repeat last char tag: Esc c c

Yeee!!  thank you very much!

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RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-02 Thread Alison Craig 
It's almost worth the upgrade cost just for that feature.

The one thing I've hated in the switch to FM9 (from Word) was that there was no 
F4 (repeat last) equivalent. It's particularly frustrating whenever I move 
another Word doc to Frame (I never import, I always save the DOC to text and 
reformat from scratch in FM - there are too many issues in large Word docs for 
me to trust a straight import. I'd much rather *know* I've started with a clean 
slate). 

One keystroke beats three any day.

Alison

Alison Craig, Technical Writer
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 6:36 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?

 FM10's now got an F6 repeat last command (and icon on the toolbar)

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 8:39 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?

On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
 Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
 in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?

 For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
 sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in
 Body format.  I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
 1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.

 Thanks, Helen



Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
Repeat last char tag: Esc c c

best

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RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-02 Thread Jeff Coatsworth 
Yes, me too - however I found that tweaking my maker.ini file to paste text 
(unformatted) solved the issue of having to save the Word doc to text  then 
copy/paste). The other downside to FM10's F6 function is that unlike Word, it 
will still pop confirmation dialogs rather than just repeating the last command 
 response. So you still end up clicking or hitting enter to confirm what you 
want to do (I notice this most when dealing with rows in tables).

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Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:44 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?

It's almost worth the upgrade cost just for that feature.

The one thing I've hated in the switch to FM9 (from Word) was that there was no 
F4 (repeat last) equivalent. It's particularly frustrating whenever I move 
another Word doc to Frame (I never import, I always save the DOC to text and 
reformat from scratch in FM - there are too many issues in large Word docs for 
me to trust a straight import. I'd much rather *know* I've started with a clean 
slate). 

One keystroke beats three any day.

Alison

Alison Craig, Technical Writer
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 6:36 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?

 FM10's now got an F6 repeat last command (and icon on the toolbar)

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 8:39 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?

On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
 Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
 in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?

 For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
 sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in
 Body format.  I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
 1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.

 Thanks, Helen



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Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-02 Thread Helen Borrie 
At 01:25 AM 3/02/2011, Jerilynne \MamaRed\ Knight wrote:

Boy, that is one Word command I would love to have too...I'm not using 8, so I 
don't know if there is one. 

I tried esc j j amd esc c c as suggested by Stuart and it does exactly the job 
I want.

However, one possibility of speeding up the process: are there any unique 
things identifying what equals a H1, H2, etc? Number of spaces, specific 
characters, italic, bold?

If so, what I do in those cases is a search and replace function. If you're a 
super fancy person, you could write a script. If not, it is a serialized 
function. 

Thanks for the thoughts on that, although in this instance, it's not what I 
want to do.  I actually *want* the source documents to come into the template 
without structure as they are from multiple sources with multiple ad hoc 
structures.  The template they are coming into is structured unstructured if 
you get my drift.  Although the content is for a monolithic book, I have 
designed the template to be able to convert the content to unstructured and 
round-trip it in future.

This project started as a structured DITA project and has wriggled its way back 
to unstructured once I lost the fight to find a way to do it structured and get 
the right output. With hindsight, I lost a lot (too much!) time by trying to 
make this book my first major DITA project.  Doesn't mean I have abandoned 
DITA/structured FM, by any means, just that it really does not work for this 
monolithic book!  I'm more than a year past deadline now. :-( 

So much for I say.  I hope you won't mind if I post back your further 
comments to the list, as I think they are worth sharing

Jerilynne \MamaRed\ Knight wrote:

The other thing I did for a 6500 + page conversion from WordPerfect to Frame 
is, oddly enough, run it through Word first. At the time, Word had a native 
macro function and Frame didn't (I don't know if that has changed). So I 
created a Word template with styles that matched those in Frame and wrote a 
series of macros that applied tags, inserted codes for variables, etc. 

Once it was written, it was very fast to bring in the file, click the macro 
shortcut and poof, into Frame!

I don't know how much converting you're doing or how frequently, so I wanted 
to share those approaches in case they might give you some ideas!

Many blessings
Jerilynne

Thanks again to Jerilynne and others for the tips.
Cheers,
Helen

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Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-02 Thread Mike Wickham 



On 2/2/2011 12:43 PM, Alison Craig wrote:

The one thing I've hated in the switch to FM9 (from Word) was that there was no 
F4 (repeat last) equivalent.

The Customizing_ Frame_Products.pdf has instructions for creating your 
own shortcuts. You can assign your own function keys, etc. I'm not sure 
the file is included with the latest FM versions, though. Microtype's 
ToolbarPlus Express plugin also add shortcuts that many find useful: 
http://www.microtype.com/resources.html


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RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-02 Thread Fred Ridder 

And if it really bothers you to have to press three keys to do either of the 
repeat operations that Stuart mentions, you can customize your UI to map 
those commands to shorter keystroke sequences. You do this either by modifying 
the existing FrameMaker cmds.cfg file or creating a customui.cfg file that 
contains just your customizations (much easier to maintain). Any given command 
can have multiple key sequences to invoke it, so the best bet is to define an 
alternative sequence (which can be a single key in the case of the F keys) 
rather than change the standard defined key sequence. 
 
All of this is described in a file called Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf, which 
you should find in the Documents directory of the FrameMaker installation. Just 
search for the phrase adding shortcuts for a command to find the specifics 
and then read the preceding few pages to learn the basic concepts of how to 
modify the configuration files.
 
-Fred Ridder
 
 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:39:16 -0500
 From: srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?
 
 On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
  Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
  in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
 
  For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
  sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in
  Body format. I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
  1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
 
  Thanks, Helen
 
 
 
 Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
 Repeat last char tag: Esc c c
 
 best
 
 Stuart Rogers
  
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RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-02 Thread Pinkham, Jim 
FWIW, in FM 9, at least, the Documents directory consists of:

C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Character_Sets.pdf
C:\Program
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\frm_903_conditional_text.pdf
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Getting_Started_Guide.pdf
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\MIF_Reference.pdf
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\UserGuide.pdf

For FM 7, at least, the document is available here:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/customize_frame.pdf.
 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:30 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; hele...@iinet.net.au
Subject: RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?


And if it really bothers you to have to press three keys to do either of
the repeat operations that Stuart mentions, you can customize your UI
to map those commands to shorter keystroke sequences. You do this either
by modifying the existing FrameMaker cmds.cfg file or creating a
customui.cfg file that contains just your customizations (much easier to
maintain). Any given command can have multiple key sequences to invoke
it, so the best bet is to define an alternative sequence (which can be a
single key in the case of the F keys) rather than change the standard
defined key sequence. 
 
All of this is described in a file called
Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf, which you should find in the Documents
directory of the FrameMaker installation. Just search for the phrase
adding shortcuts for a command to find the specifics and then read the
preceding few pages to learn the basic concepts of how to modify the
configuration files.
 
-Fred Ridder
 
 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:39:16 -0500
 From: srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?
 
 On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
  Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to 
  Ctrl-Y in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
 
  For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various

  sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in 
  Body format. I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
  1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
 
  Thanks, Helen
 
 
 
 Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
 Repeat last char tag: Esc c c
 
 best
 
 Stuart Rogers
  
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RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-02 Thread Pinkham, Jim 
The latest cmds.cfg refers to an online manual titled Changing Setup
Files, but it's not readily apparent where, or if, it still lurks in
the adobe.com ether. 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:30 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; hele...@iinet.net.au
Subject: RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?


And if it really bothers you to have to press three keys to do either of
the repeat operations that Stuart mentions, you can customize your UI
to map those commands to shorter keystroke sequences. You do this either
by modifying the existing FrameMaker cmds.cfg file or creating a
customui.cfg file that contains just your customizations (much easier to
maintain). Any given command can have multiple key sequences to invoke
it, so the best bet is to define an alternative sequence (which can be a
single key in the case of the F keys) rather than change the standard
defined key sequence. 
 
All of this is described in a file called
Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf, which you should find in the Documents
directory of the FrameMaker installation. Just search for the phrase
adding shortcuts for a command to find the specifics and then read the
preceding few pages to learn the basic concepts of how to modify the
configuration files.
 
-Fred Ridder
 
 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:39:16 -0500
 From: srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?
 
 On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
  Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to 
  Ctrl-Y in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
 
  For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various

  sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in 
  Body format. I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
  1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
 
  Thanks, Helen
 
 
 
 Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
 Repeat last char tag: Esc c c
 
 best
 
 Stuart Rogers
  
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RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-02 Thread Fred Ridder 

As a further FWIW, the customization document that was distributed with 
FrameMaker 8.0 was *exactly* the same as the one provided with FM 7.0. Even the 
cover page calls out FrameMaker 7.0.
 
But maybe FM 9 did away with the command configuration files altogether? It 
seems like that would have been a lot of work for little positive gain, and it 
would have blown backwards compatibility out of the water (not that this has 
never happened...).
 
-FR
 
 Subject: RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?
 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:05:02 -0600
 From: jim.pink...@voith.com
 To: docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com; hele...@iinet.net.au
 
 FWIW, in FM 9, at least, the Documents directory consists of:
 
 C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Character_Sets.pdf
 C:\Program
 Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\frm_903_conditional_text.pdf
 C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Getting_Started_Guide.pdf
 C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\MIF_Reference.pdf
 C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\UserGuide.pdf
 
 For FM 7, at least, the document is available here:
 http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/customize_frame.pdf.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
 Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:30 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; hele...@iinet.net.au
 Subject: RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?
 
 
 And if it really bothers you to have to press three keys to do either of
 the repeat operations that Stuart mentions, you can customize your UI
 to map those commands to shorter keystroke sequences. You do this either
 by modifying the existing FrameMaker cmds.cfg file or creating a
 customui.cfg file that contains just your customizations (much easier to
 maintain). Any given command can have multiple key sequences to invoke
 it, so the best bet is to define an alternative sequence (which can be a
 single key in the case of the F keys) rather than change the standard
 defined key sequence. 
 
 All of this is described in a file called
 Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf, which you should find in the Documents
 directory of the FrameMaker installation. Just search for the phrase
 adding shortcuts for a command to find the specifics and then read the
 preceding few pages to learn the basic concepts of how to modify the
 configuration files.
 
 -Fred Ridder
 
  Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:39:16 -0500
  From: srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?
  
  On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
   Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to 
   Ctrl-Y in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
  
   For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
 
   sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in 
   Body format. I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
   1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
  
   Thanks, Helen
  
  
  
  Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
  Repeat last char tag: Esc c c
  
  best
  
  Stuart Rogers
 
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RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-02 Thread Pinkham, Jim 
Well, there is still this collection of files, so it looks like the
business continues:
 
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\cmds.cfg
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\mathcmds.cfg
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\sample.cfg
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\wincmds.cfg
 
Jim



From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:15 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim; framers@lists.frameusers.com; hele...@iinet.net.au
Subject: RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?


As a further FWIW, the customization document that was distributed with
FrameMaker 8.0 was *exactly* the same as the one provided with FM 7.0.
Even the cover page calls out FrameMaker 7.0.
 
But maybe FM 9 did away with the command configuration files altogether?
It seems like that would have been a lot of work for little positive
gain, and it would have blown backwards compatibility out of the water
(not that this has never happened...).
 
-FR
 
 Subject: RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?
 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:05:02 -0600
 From: jim.pink...@voith.com
 To: docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com;
hele...@iinet.net.au
 
 FWIW, in FM 9, at least, the Documents directory consists of:
 
 C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Character_Sets.pdf
 C:\Program
 Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\frm_903_conditional_text.pdf
 C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Getting_Started_Guide.pdf
 C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\MIF_Reference.pdf
 C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\UserGuide.pdf
 
 For FM 7, at least, the document is available here:
 http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/customize_frame.pdf.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
 Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:30 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; hele...@iinet.net.au
 Subject: RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?
 
 
 And if it really bothers you to have to press three keys to do either
of
 the repeat operations that Stuart mentions, you can customize your
UI
 to map those commands to shorter keystroke sequences. You do this
either
 by modifying the existing FrameMaker cmds.cfg file or creating a
 customui.cfg file that contains just your customizations (much easier
to
 maintain). Any given command can have multiple key sequences to invoke
 it, so the best bet is to define an alternative sequence (which can be
a
 single key in the case of the F keys) rather than change the standard
 defined key sequence. 
 
 All of this is described in a file called
 Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf, which you should find in the Documents
 directory of the FrameMaker installation. Just search for the phrase
 adding shortcuts for a command to find the specifics and then read
the
 preceding few pages to learn the basic concepts of how to modify the
 configuration files.
 
 -Fred Ridder
 
  Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:39:16 -0500
  From: srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?
  
  On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
   Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to 
   Ctrl-Y in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging
instruction?
  
   For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from
various
 
   sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in 
   Body format. I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the
Head
   1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
  
   Thanks, Helen
  
  
  
  Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
  Repeat last char tag: Esc c c
  
  best
  
  Stuart Rogers
 
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RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-02 Thread Fred Ridder 

Oh, cute. They still provide all the means to do UI customization, but don't 
tell you that it can be done or how to go about it. Sigh...
 
-FR
 


Subject: RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:17:59 -0600
From: jim.pink...@voith.com
To: docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com; hele...@iinet.net.au





Well, there is still this collection of files, so it looks like the business 
continues:
 
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\cmds.cfg
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\mathcmds.cfg
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\sample.cfg
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\wincmds.cfg
 
Jim



From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:15 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim; framers@lists.frameusers.com; hele...@iinet.net.au
Subject: RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?


As a further FWIW, the customization document that was distributed with 
FrameMaker 8.0 was *exactly* the same as the one provided with FM 7.0. Even the 
cover page calls out FrameMaker 7.0.
 
But maybe FM 9 did away with the command configuration files altogether? It 
seems like that would have been a lot of work for little positive gain, and it 
would have blown backwards compatibility out of the water (not that this has 
never happened...).
 
-FR
 
 Subject: RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?
 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:05:02 -0600
 From: jim.pink...@voith.com
 To: docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com; hele...@iinet.net.au
 
 FWIW, in FM 9, at least, the Documents directory consists of:
 
 C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Character_Sets.pdf
 C:\Program
 Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\frm_903_conditional_text.pdf
 C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Getting_Started_Guide.pdf
 C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\MIF_Reference.pdf
 C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\UserGuide.pdf
 
 For FM 7, at least, the document is available here:
 http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/customize_frame.pdf.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
 Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:30 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; hele...@iinet.net.au
 Subject: RE: Shortcut for Repeat last?
 
 
 And if it really bothers you to have to press three keys to do either of
 the repeat operations that Stuart mentions, you can customize your UI
 to map those commands to shorter keystroke sequences. You do this either
 by modifying the existing FrameMaker cmds.cfg file or creating a
 customui.cfg file that contains just your customizations (much easier to
 maintain). Any given command can have multiple key sequences to invoke
 it, so the best bet is to define an alternative sequence (which can be a
 single key in the case of the F keys) rather than change the standard
 defined key sequence. 
 
 All of this is described in a file called
 Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf, which you should find in the Documents
 directory of the FrameMaker installation. Just search for the phrase
 adding shortcuts for a command to find the specifics and then read the
 preceding few pages to learn the basic concepts of how to modify the
 configuration files.
 
 -Fred Ridder
 
  Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:39:16 -0500
  From: srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?
  
  On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
   Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to 
   Ctrl-Y in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
  
   For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
 
   sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in 
   Body format. I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
   1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
  
   Thanks, Helen
  
  
  
  Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
  Repeat last char tag: Esc c c
  
  best
  
  Stuart Rogers
 
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Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?

2011-02-02 Thread Helen Borrie 
At 08:04 AM 3/02/2011, Helen Borrie wrote:
The template they are coming into is structured unstructured if you get my 
drift.  Although the content is for a monolithic book, I have designed the 
template to be able to convert the content to unstructured and round-trip it 
in future.

She meant to write:
Although the content is for a monolithic book, I have designed the template to 
be able to convert the content to ***structured*** and round-trip it in future.

(So many words, so little time!)

Cheers,
Helen 

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Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

2011-02-02 Thread Helen Borrie 
Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y in Word) 
whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction? 

For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various sources 
that I import into a templated document with all paras in Body format.  I'd 
like to be able to go through and tag all the Head 1 first, then all the Head 
2...and so on. 

Thanks,
Helen

Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

2011-02-02 Thread Stuart Rogers 
On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
> Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
> in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
>
> For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
> sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in
> Body format.  I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
> 1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
>
> Thanks, Helen
>


Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
Repeat last char tag: Esc c c

best

Stuart Rogers

Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

2011-02-02 Thread Jeff Coatsworth 
 FM10's now got an F6 repeat last command (and icon on the toolbar)

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 8:39 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
> Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
> in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
>
> For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
> sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in
> Body format.  I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
> 1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
>
> Thanks, Helen
>


Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
Repeat last char tag: Esc c c

best

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Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

2011-02-02 Thread Alison Craig 
It's almost worth the upgrade cost just for that feature.

The one thing I've hated in the switch to FM9 (from Word) was that there was no 
F4 (repeat last) equivalent. It's particularly frustrating whenever I move 
another Word doc to Frame (I never import, I always save the DOC to text and 
reformat from scratch in FM - there are too many issues in large Word docs for 
me to trust a straight import. I'd much rather *know* I've started with a clean 
slate). 

One keystroke beats three any day.

Alison

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E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com


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Subject: RE: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

 FM10's now got an F6 repeat last command (and icon on the toolbar)

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Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 8:39 AM
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Subject: Re: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
> Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
> in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
>
> For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
> sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in
> Body format.  I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
> 1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
>
> Thanks, Helen
>


Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
Repeat last char tag: Esc c c

best

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Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

2011-02-02 Thread Jeff Coatsworth 
Yes, me too - however I found that tweaking my maker.ini file to paste text 
(unformatted) solved the issue of having to save the Word doc to text & then 
copy/paste). The other "downside" to FM10's F6 function is that unlike Word, it 
will still pop confirmation dialogs rather than just repeating the last command 
& response. So you still end up clicking or hitting enter to confirm what you 
want to do (I notice this most when dealing with rows in tables).

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From: Alison Craig [mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:44 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

It's almost worth the upgrade cost just for that feature.

The one thing I've hated in the switch to FM9 (from Word) was that there was no 
F4 (repeat last) equivalent. It's particularly frustrating whenever I move 
another Word doc to Frame (I never import, I always save the DOC to text and 
reformat from scratch in FM - there are too many issues in large Word docs for 
me to trust a straight import. I'd much rather *know* I've started with a clean 
slate). 

One keystroke beats three any day.

Alison

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Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com


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Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 6:36 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

 FM10's now got an F6 repeat last command (and icon on the toolbar)

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 8:39 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
> Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
> in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
>
> For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
> sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in
> Body format.  I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
> 1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
>
> Thanks, Helen
>


Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
Repeat last char tag: Esc c c

best

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Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

2011-02-02 Thread Mike Wickham 


On 2/2/2011 12:43 PM, Alison Craig wrote:
> The one thing I've hated in the switch to FM9 (from Word) was that there was 
> no F4 (repeat last) equivalent.
>
The Customizing_ Frame_Products.pdf has instructions for creating your 
own shortcuts. You can assign your own function keys, etc. I'm not sure 
the file is included with the latest FM versions, though. Microtype's 
ToolbarPlus Express plugin also add shortcuts that many find useful: 


Mike Wickham

Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

2011-02-02 Thread Fred Ridder 

And if it really bothers you to have to press three keys to do either of the 
"repeat" operations that Stuart mentions, you can customize your UI to map 
those commands to shorter keystroke sequences. You do this either by modifying 
the existing FrameMaker cmds.cfg file or creating a customui.cfg file that 
contains just your customizations (much easier to maintain). Any given command 
can have multiple key sequences to invoke it, so the best bet is to define an 
alternative sequence (which can be a single key in the case of the F keys) 
rather than change the standard defined key sequence. 

All of this is described in a file called Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf, which 
you should find in the Documents directory of the FrameMaker installation. Just 
search for the phrase "adding shortcuts for a command" to find the specifics 
and then read the preceding few pages to learn the basic concepts of how to 
modify the configuration files.

-Fred Ridder

> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:39:16 -0500
> From: srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?
> 
> On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
> > Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
> > in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
> >
> > For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
> > sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in
> > Body format. I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
> > 1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
> >
> > Thanks, Helen
> >
> 
> 
> Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
> Repeat last char tag: Esc c c
> 
> best
> 
> Stuart Rogers

Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

2011-02-02 Thread Pinkham, Jim 
FWIW, in FM 9, at least, the Documents directory consists of:

C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Character_Sets.pdf
C:\Program
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\frm_903_conditional_text.pdf
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Getting_Started_Guide.pdf
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\MIF_Reference.pdf
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\UserGuide.pdf

For FM 7, at least, the document is available here:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/customize_frame.pdf.


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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:30 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; helebor at iinet.net.au
Subject: RE: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?


And if it really bothers you to have to press three keys to do either of
the "repeat" operations that Stuart mentions, you can customize your UI
to map those commands to shorter keystroke sequences. You do this either
by modifying the existing FrameMaker cmds.cfg file or creating a
customui.cfg file that contains just your customizations (much easier to
maintain). Any given command can have multiple key sequences to invoke
it, so the best bet is to define an alternative sequence (which can be a
single key in the case of the F keys) rather than change the standard
defined key sequence. 

All of this is described in a file called
Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf, which you should find in the Documents
directory of the FrameMaker installation. Just search for the phrase
"adding shortcuts for a command" to find the specifics and then read the
preceding few pages to learn the basic concepts of how to modify the
configuration files.

-Fred Ridder

> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:39:16 -0500
> From: srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?
> 
> On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
> > Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to 
> > Ctrl-Y in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
> >
> > For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various

> > sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in 
> > Body format. I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
> > 1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
> >
> > Thanks, Helen
> >
> 
> 
> Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
> Repeat last char tag: Esc c c
> 
> best
> 
> Stuart Rogers

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2011-02-02 Thread Pinkham, Jim 
The latest cmds.cfg refers to an online manual titled "Changing Setup
Files," but it's not readily apparent where, or if, it still lurks in
the adobe.com ether. 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:30 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; helebor at iinet.net.au
Subject: RE: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?


And if it really bothers you to have to press three keys to do either of
the "repeat" operations that Stuart mentions, you can customize your UI
to map those commands to shorter keystroke sequences. You do this either
by modifying the existing FrameMaker cmds.cfg file or creating a
customui.cfg file that contains just your customizations (much easier to
maintain). Any given command can have multiple key sequences to invoke
it, so the best bet is to define an alternative sequence (which can be a
single key in the case of the F keys) rather than change the standard
defined key sequence. 

All of this is described in a file called
Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf, which you should find in the Documents
directory of the FrameMaker installation. Just search for the phrase
"adding shortcuts for a command" to find the specifics and then read the
preceding few pages to learn the basic concepts of how to modify the
configuration files.

-Fred Ridder

> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:39:16 -0500
> From: srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?
> 
> On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
> > Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to 
> > Ctrl-Y in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
> >
> > For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various

> > sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in 
> > Body format. I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
> > 1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
> >
> > Thanks, Helen
> >
> 
> 
> Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
> Repeat last char tag: Esc c c
> 
> best
> 
> Stuart Rogers

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2011-02-02 Thread Fred Ridder 

As a further FWIW, the customization document that was distributed with 
FrameMaker 8.0 was *exactly* the same as the one provided with FM 7.0. Even the 
cover page calls out "FrameMaker 7.0".

But maybe FM 9 did away with the command configuration files altogether? It 
seems like that would have been a lot of work for little positive gain, and it 
would have blown backwards compatibility out of the water (not that this has 
never happened...).

-FR

> Subject: RE: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:05:02 -0600
> From: Jim.Pinkham at voith.com
> To: docudoc at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com; helebor at 
> iinet.net.au
> 
> FWIW, in FM 9, at least, the Documents directory consists of:
> 
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Character_Sets.pdf
> C:\Program
> Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\frm_903_conditional_text.pdf
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Getting_Started_Guide.pdf
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\MIF_Reference.pdf
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\UserGuide.pdf
> 
> For FM 7, at least, the document is available here:
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/customize_frame.pdf.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:30 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; helebor at iinet.net.au
> Subject: RE: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?
> 
> 
> And if it really bothers you to have to press three keys to do either of
> the "repeat" operations that Stuart mentions, you can customize your UI
> to map those commands to shorter keystroke sequences. You do this either
> by modifying the existing FrameMaker cmds.cfg file or creating a
> customui.cfg file that contains just your customizations (much easier to
> maintain). Any given command can have multiple key sequences to invoke
> it, so the best bet is to define an alternative sequence (which can be a
> single key in the case of the F keys) rather than change the standard
> defined key sequence. 
> 
> All of this is described in a file called
> Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf, which you should find in the Documents
> directory of the FrameMaker installation. Just search for the phrase
> "adding shortcuts for a command" to find the specifics and then read the
> preceding few pages to learn the basic concepts of how to modify the
> configuration files.
> 
> -Fred Ridder
> 
> > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:39:16 -0500
> > From: srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com
> > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Re: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?
> > 
> > On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
> > > Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to 
> > > Ctrl-Y in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
> > >
> > > For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
> 
> > > sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in 
> > > Body format. I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
> > > 1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Helen
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
> > Repeat last char tag: Esc c c
> > 
> > best
> > 
> > Stuart Rogers
> 
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2011-02-02 Thread Pinkham, Jim 
Well, there is still this collection of files, so it looks like the
business continues:

C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\cmds.cfg
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\mathcmds.cfg
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\sample.cfg
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\wincmds.cfg

Jim



From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:15 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim; framers at lists.frameusers.com; helebor at iinet.net.au
Subject: RE: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?


As a further FWIW, the customization document that was distributed with
FrameMaker 8.0 was *exactly* the same as the one provided with FM 7.0.
Even the cover page calls out "FrameMaker 7.0".

But maybe FM 9 did away with the command configuration files altogether?
It seems like that would have been a lot of work for little positive
gain, and it would have blown backwards compatibility out of the water
(not that this has never happened...).

-FR

> Subject: RE: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:05:02 -0600
> From: Jim.Pinkham at voith.com
> To: docudoc at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com;
helebor at iinet.net.au
> 
> FWIW, in FM 9, at least, the Documents directory consists of:
> 
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Character_Sets.pdf
> C:\Program
> Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\frm_903_conditional_text.pdf
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Getting_Started_Guide.pdf
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\MIF_Reference.pdf
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\UserGuide.pdf
> 
> For FM 7, at least, the document is available here:
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/customize_frame.pdf.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:30 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; helebor at iinet.net.au
> Subject: RE: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?
> 
> 
> And if it really bothers you to have to press three keys to do either
of
> the "repeat" operations that Stuart mentions, you can customize your
UI
> to map those commands to shorter keystroke sequences. You do this
either
> by modifying the existing FrameMaker cmds.cfg file or creating a
> customui.cfg file that contains just your customizations (much easier
to
> maintain). Any given command can have multiple key sequences to invoke
> it, so the best bet is to define an alternative sequence (which can be
a
> single key in the case of the F keys) rather than change the standard
> defined key sequence. 
> 
> All of this is described in a file called
> Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf, which you should find in the Documents
> directory of the FrameMaker installation. Just search for the phrase
> "adding shortcuts for a command" to find the specifics and then read
the
> preceding few pages to learn the basic concepts of how to modify the
> configuration files.
> 
> -Fred Ridder
> 
> > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:39:16 -0500
> > From: srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com
> > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Re: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?
> > 
> > On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
> > > Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to 
> > > Ctrl-Y in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging
instruction?
> > >
> > > For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from
various
> 
> > > sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in 
> > > Body format. I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the
Head
> > > 1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Helen
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
> > Repeat last char tag: Esc c c
> > 
> > best
> > 
> > Stuart Rogers
> 
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2011-02-02 Thread Fred Ridder 

Oh, cute. They still provide all the means to do UI customization, but don't 
tell you that it can be done or how to go about it. Sigh...

-FR



Subject: RE: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:17:59 -0600
From: jim.pink...@voith.com
To: docudoc at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com; helebor at 
iinet.net.au





Well, there is still this collection of files, so it looks like the business 
continues:

C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\cmds.cfg
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\mathcmds.cfg
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\sample.cfg
C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\fminit\configui\wincmds.cfg

Jim



From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:15 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim; framers at lists.frameusers.com; helebor at iinet.net.au
Subject: RE: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?


As a further FWIW, the customization document that was distributed with 
FrameMaker 8.0 was *exactly* the same as the one provided with FM 7.0. Even the 
cover page calls out "FrameMaker 7.0".

But maybe FM 9 did away with the command configuration files altogether? It 
seems like that would have been a lot of work for little positive gain, and it 
would have blown backwards compatibility out of the water (not that this has 
never happened...).

-FR

> Subject: RE: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:05:02 -0600
> From: Jim.Pinkham at voith.com
> To: docudoc at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com; helebor at 
> iinet.net.au
> 
> FWIW, in FM 9, at least, the Documents directory consists of:
> 
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Character_Sets.pdf
> C:\Program
> Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\frm_903_conditional_text.pdf
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\Getting_Started_Guide.pdf
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\MIF_Reference.pdf
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker9\Documents\UserGuide.pdf
> 
> For FM 7, at least, the document is available here:
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/customize_frame.pdf.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:30 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; helebor at iinet.net.au
> Subject: RE: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?
> 
> 
> And if it really bothers you to have to press three keys to do either of
> the "repeat" operations that Stuart mentions, you can customize your UI
> to map those commands to shorter keystroke sequences. You do this either
> by modifying the existing FrameMaker cmds.cfg file or creating a
> customui.cfg file that contains just your customizations (much easier to
> maintain). Any given command can have multiple key sequences to invoke
> it, so the best bet is to define an alternative sequence (which can be a
> single key in the case of the F keys) rather than change the standard
> defined key sequence. 
> 
> All of this is described in a file called
> Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf, which you should find in the Documents
> directory of the FrameMaker installation. Just search for the phrase
> "adding shortcuts for a command" to find the specifics and then read the
> preceding few pages to learn the basic concepts of how to modify the
> configuration files.
> 
> -Fred Ridder
> 
> > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:39:16 -0500
> > From: srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com
> > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Re: Shortcut for "Repeat last"?
> > 
> > On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
> > > Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to 
> > > Ctrl-Y in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
> > >
> > > For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various
> 
> > > sources that I import into a templated document with all paras in 
> > > Body format. I'd like to be able to go through and tag all the Head
> > > 1 first, then all the Head 2...and so on.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Helen
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
> > Repeat last char tag: Esc c c
> > 
> > best
> > 
> > Stuart Rogers
> 
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