Re: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project

[Jim Owens]

Lots of time might be overstating it. Every new tool requires time to 
learn and set up.  Getting working help from Mif2Go doesn't take very 
long at all -- maybe a couple of days to figure out what you need to do, 
and then do it. Customizing the output to your presferences takes 
longer. With Mif2GO you do have scripting options, so you can take your 
customizations as far as you want -- which needs time, it's true.

I agree that Mif2GO requires a better grasp of CSS and HTML. If you're a 
documentation professional charged with generating Help, you should be 
familiar with these technologies.


Matt Sullivan wrote:
 If you have lots of time, but little budget (and a bit of inner-techie),
 MIF2GO seems to be quite an elegant solution. 
   


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RE: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project

[Matt Sullivan]

This list *consistently* proves there is no best for many FM tasks, but
simply a best with given parameters.

I think it's the same with a Help conversion tool.

As with all our tools, there are pro's and con's that must be weighed
including available:
-time
-budget
-expertise in 
-scripting
-css
-html

If you have lots of time, but little budget (and a bit of inner-techie),
MIF2GO seems to be quite an elegant solution. 
Certainly no one here will argue Jeremy's commitment to ensure the success
of MIF2GO installations!

If you have TCS2, or budget to upgrade, then RoboHelp gives you an
integrated solution, as well as options for managing integrated swf and 3d
objects.
For those who can use a new version of Acro, Captivate, or Photoshop, the
TCS2 upgrade (especially with a maintenance contract) is a compelling
solution.

Personally, I like the extent to which I can leverage the integrated
components of the TCS solution. I appreciate the improved mapping in the
TCS2 version, and (hopefully with the help of US beta testers) look forward
to better more intuitive labeling in future releases. I've helped lots of
folks get their projects out the door, and have enjoyed the process.

Now I'm off to pay my maintenance contract (expiring in 2 weeks...), and to
prep for a TCS integration consult. 

 


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Subject: Re: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help
Project

Thanks for the tips, all of you. That's 3 Mif2Go recommendations in a few
hours. We'll have to check it out.  Also getting interesting info on
RoboHelp. The more suggestions the better.

Regards,
Tony

Gutierrez, Dorianne wrote:
 Yep, I'll third that. We've had a good experience with Mif2Go - FrameMaker
8, about the same amount of content and conditions.

 Dorianne Gutierrez
 Polaris Library Systems

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Owens [mailto:jow...@magma.ca]
 Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:02 PM
 To: 'Tony Marek'
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help 
 Project

 I'll second that. It's well worth looking at.

 (another satisified Mif2Go customer)

 David Spreadbury wrote:
   
 Well, I will jump in and ask why not try Mif2Go. Book size doesn't
matter.
 Should handle all your context sensitive requirements without a problem.
 Assistance, if needed, is an email away with usual response in 24 hours.
 Price is nice, $300/seat, compared to TCS or WWP.

   
 

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Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project

[Matt Sullivan]

This list *consistently* proves there is no "best" for many FM tasks, but
simply a "best with given parameters".

I think it's the same with a Help conversion tool.

As with all our tools, there are pro's and con's that must be weighed
including available:
-time
-budget
-expertise in 
-scripting
-css
-html

If you have lots of time, but little budget (and a bit of inner-techie),
MIF2GO seems to be quite an elegant solution. 
Certainly no one here will argue Jeremy's commitment to ensure the success
of MIF2GO installations!

If you have TCS2, or budget to upgrade, then RoboHelp gives you an
integrated solution, as well as options for managing integrated swf and 3d
objects.
For those who can use a new version of Acro, Captivate, or Photoshop, the
TCS2 upgrade (especially with a maintenance contract) is a compelling
solution.

Personally, I like the extent to which I can leverage the integrated
components of the TCS solution. I appreciate the improved mapping in the
TCS2 version, and (hopefully with the help of US beta testers) look forward
to better more intuitive labeling in future releases. I've helped lots of
folks get their projects out the door, and have enjoyed the process.

Now I'm off to pay my maintenance contract (expiring in 2 weeks...), and to
prep for a TCS integration consult. 




-Matt

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To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help
Project

Thanks for the tips, all of you. That's 3 Mif2Go recommendations in a few
hours. We'll have to check it out.  Also getting interesting info on
RoboHelp. The more suggestions the better.

Regards,
Tony

Gutierrez, Dorianne wrote:
> Yep, I'll third that. We've had a good experience with Mif2Go - FrameMaker
8, about the same amount of content and conditions.
>
> Dorianne Gutierrez
> Polaris Library Systems
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Owens [mailto:jowens at magma.ca]
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:02 PM
> To: 'Tony Marek'
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help 
> Project
>
> I'll second that. It's well worth looking at.
>
> (another satisified Mif2Go customer)
>
> David Spreadbury wrote:
>   
>> Well, I will jump in and ask why not try Mif2Go. Book size doesn't
matter.
>> Should handle all your context sensitive requirements without a problem.
>> Assistance, if needed, is an email away with usual response in 24 hours.
>> Price is nice, $300/seat, compared to TCS or WWP.
>>
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Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project

[Tony Marek]

Hello -- We're very interested in any input on our tentative plans to 
switch from WWPro to RoboHelp for our ongoing context-sensitive HTML 
Help projects. In particular, we'd like to know any of your experiences 
using RoboHelp 8 on multiple book sets that include large, complex books 
(2,000+ pages, thousands of images, hundreds of cross-references and 
hypertext links, etc.).

Our software product's UI Help buttons call topic alias markers which 
are included in the HTML output, based on markers that we've embedded 
throughout the content of our Frame books.

We're currently using WWP and encountering new problems with each patch 
they release. The product is proving too unstable for us to move forward 
with.

Any thoughts on taking on a conversion from WWPro to RoboHelp? Our 
output has to be HTML, and it needs to be able to use some sort of topic 
alias marker system so the product's Help calls from various GUI's will 
be context-sensitive and open the correct topic in the HTML Help system. 
We assume that this would entail us upgrading to the latest Adobe 
Communications Suite. We're currently on Frame 8.

Thanks for any and all advice. 

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RE: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project

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Well, I will jump in and ask why not try Mif2Go. Book size doesn't matter.
Should handle all your context sensitive requirements without a problem.
Assistance, if needed, is an email away with usual response in 24 hours.
Price is nice, $300/seat, compared to TCS or WWP.

You can download a fully functional demo version from www.omsys.com.

David Spreadbury
Sr. Technical Writer

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Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:41 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project

Hello -- We're very interested in any input on our tentative plans to 
switch from WWPro to RoboHelp for our ongoing context-sensitive HTML 
Help projects. In particular, we'd like to know any of your experiences 
using RoboHelp 8 on multiple book sets that include large, complex books 
(2,000+ pages, thousands of images, hundreds of cross-references and 
hypertext links, etc.).

Our software product's UI Help buttons call topic alias markers which 
are included in the HTML output, based on markers that we've embedded 
throughout the content of our Frame books.

We're currently using WWP and encountering new problems with each patch 
they release. The product is proving too unstable for us to move forward 
with.

Any thoughts on taking on a conversion from WWPro to RoboHelp? Our 
output has to be HTML, and it needs to be able to use some sort of topic 
alias marker system so the product's Help calls from various GUI's will 
be context-sensitive and open the correct topic in the HTML Help system. 
We assume that this would entail us upgrading to the latest Adobe 
Communications Suite. We're currently on Frame 8.

Thanks for any and all advice. 

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Re: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project

[Jim Owens]

I'll second that. It's well worth looking at.

(another satisified Mif2Go customer)

David Spreadbury wrote:
 Well, I will jump in and ask why not try Mif2Go. Book size doesn't matter.
 Should handle all your context sensitive requirements without a problem.
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 Price is nice, $300/seat, compared to TCS or WWP.

   

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Yep, I'll third that. We've had a good experience with Mif2Go - FrameMaker 8, 
about the same amount of content and conditions.

Dorianne Gutierrez
Polaris Library Systems

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Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:02 PM
To: 'Tony Marek'
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project

I'll second that. It's well worth looking at.

(another satisified Mif2Go customer)

David Spreadbury wrote:
 Well, I will jump in and ask why not try Mif2Go. Book size doesn't matter.
 Should handle all your context sensitive requirements without a problem.
 Assistance, if needed, is an email away with usual response in 24 hours.
 Price is nice, $300/seat, compared to TCS or WWP.

   

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Thanks for the tips, all of you. That's 3 Mif2Go recommendations in a 
few hours. We'll have to check it out.  Also getting interesting info on 
RoboHelp. The more suggestions the better.

Regards,
Tony

Gutierrez, Dorianne wrote:
 Yep, I'll third that. We've had a good experience with Mif2Go - FrameMaker 8, 
 about the same amount of content and conditions.

 Dorianne Gutierrez
 Polaris Library Systems

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Owens [mailto:jow...@magma.ca] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:02 PM
 To: 'Tony Marek'
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project

 I'll second that. It's well worth looking at.

 (another satisified Mif2Go customer)

 David Spreadbury wrote:
   
 Well, I will jump in and ask why not try Mif2Go. Book size doesn't matter.
 Should handle all your context sensitive requirements without a problem.
 Assistance, if needed, is an email away with usual response in 24 hours.
 Price is nice, $300/seat, compared to TCS or WWP.

   
 

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Hello -- We're very interested in any input on our tentative plans to 
switch from WWPro to RoboHelp for our ongoing context-sensitive HTML 
Help projects. In particular, we'd like to know any of your experiences 
using RoboHelp 8 on multiple book sets that include large, complex books 
(2,000+ pages, thousands of images, hundreds of cross-references and 
hypertext links, etc.).

Our software product's UI Help buttons call topic alias markers which 
are included in the HTML output, based on markers that we've embedded 
throughout the content of our Frame books.

We're currently using WWP and encountering new problems with each patch 
they release. The product is proving too unstable for us to move forward 
with.

Any thoughts on taking on a conversion from WWPro to RoboHelp? Our 
output has to be HTML, and it needs to be able to use some sort of topic 
alias marker system so the product's Help calls from various GUI's will 
be context-sensitive and open the correct topic in the HTML Help system. 
We assume that this would entail us upgrading to the latest Adobe 
Communications Suite. We're currently on Frame 8.

Thanks for any and all advice. 

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Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project

[David Spreadbury]

Well, I will jump in and ask why not try Mif2Go. Book size doesn't matter.
Should handle all your context sensitive requirements without a problem.
Assistance, if needed, is an email away with usual response in 24 hours.
Price is nice, $300/seat, compared to TCS or WWP.

You can download a fully functional demo version from www.omsys.com.

David Spreadbury
Sr. Technical Writer

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Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:41 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project

Hello -- We're very interested in any input on our tentative plans to 
switch from WWPro to RoboHelp for our ongoing context-sensitive HTML 
Help projects. In particular, we'd like to know any of your experiences 
using RoboHelp 8 on multiple book sets that include large, complex books 
(2,000+ pages, thousands of images, hundreds of cross-references and 
hypertext links, etc.).

Our software product's UI Help buttons call topic alias markers which 
are included in the HTML output, based on markers that we've embedded 
throughout the content of our Frame books.

We're currently using WWP and encountering new problems with each patch 
they release. The product is proving too unstable for us to move forward 
with.

Any thoughts on taking on a conversion from WWPro to RoboHelp? Our 
output has to be HTML, and it needs to be able to use some sort of topic 
alias marker system so the product's Help calls from various GUI's will 
be context-sensitive and open the correct topic in the HTML Help system. 
We assume that this would entail us upgrading to the latest Adobe 
Communications Suite. We're currently on Frame 8.

Thanks for any and all advice. 

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*/Technical Publications Manager

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I'll second that. It's well worth looking at.

(another satisified Mif2Go customer)

David Spreadbury wrote:
> Well, I will jump in and ask why not try Mif2Go. Book size doesn't matter.
> Should handle all your context sensitive requirements without a problem.
> Assistance, if needed, is an email away with usual response in 24 hours.
> Price is nice, $300/seat, compared to TCS or WWP.
>
>   

Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project

[Gutierrez, Dorianne]

Yep, I'll third that. We've had a good experience with Mif2Go - FrameMaker 8, 
about the same amount of content and conditions.

Dorianne Gutierrez
Polaris Library Systems

-Original Message-
From: Jim Owens [mailto:jow...@magma.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:02 PM
To: 'Tony Marek'
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project

I'll second that. It's well worth looking at.

(another satisified Mif2Go customer)

David Spreadbury wrote:
> Well, I will jump in and ask why not try Mif2Go. Book size doesn't matter.
> Should handle all your context sensitive requirements without a problem.
> Assistance, if needed, is an email away with usual response in 24 hours.
> Price is nice, $300/seat, compared to TCS or WWP.
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Thanks for the tips, all of you. That's 3 Mif2Go recommendations in a 
few hours. We'll have to check it out.  Also getting interesting info on 
RoboHelp. The more suggestions the better.

Regards,
Tony

Gutierrez, Dorianne wrote:
> Yep, I'll third that. We've had a good experience with Mif2Go - FrameMaker 8, 
> about the same amount of content and conditions.
>
> Dorianne Gutierrez
> Polaris Library Systems
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Owens [mailto:jowens at magma.ca] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:02 PM
> To: 'Tony Marek'
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project
>
> I'll second that. It's well worth looking at.
>
> (another satisified Mif2Go customer)
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>> Should handle all your context sensitive requirements without a problem.
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>> Price is nice, $300/seat, compared to TCS or WWP.
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