Re: border around a word?
At 17:24 -0500 6/8/07, Peter Gold wrote: It is perhaps a little easier to size and position a text line inside an inline anchored frame, than a text frame. You can create the text with the text line tool (the A tool on the Graphics tool panel), and drag or paste it inside an anchored frame that's set to at insertion point and has been shrunk with the keystroke sequence Escape m p (tap each key, lower case required). Peter is right. All you lose by this is the ability to apply para and char tags to the framed word. Your application will determine how important this is for you. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: border around a word?
At 17:11 -0700 6/8/07, Courtney Collins wrote: I haven't ever tried this, but what about creating a box on the reference page and using that instead of the lines that usually appear there? I'm home now, but I will try ot tomorrow at work if I get time. Not sure if this would work. The purpose - or one of them - of reference frame graphics is to use in association with the 'Frame above' and 'Frame below' features in the Paragraph Designer. I can tell you from experience that if you use negative vertical leading to try to superimpose a reference frame graphic over a paragraph, as you would have to to frame, say, a heading, the text does not display correctly. The best I have ever managed was a line below and to the right of a [standard] one-word paragraph [it said 'INTRODUCTION']. However, you want a frame around a specific word. I don't see a way of getting round having to resize the frame to fit the word each time. As I mentioned before, if it's just a small subset of words, SP's Autotext plug-in will give you an easy and cheap way of inserting the composite object. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: border around a word?
On 8/7/07, Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter is right. All you lose by this is the ability to apply para and char tags to the framed word. Your application will determine how important this is for you. Text lines accept character tags, but not paragraph tags. Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: border around a word?
At 06:04 -0500 7/8/07, Peter Gold wrote: Text lines accept character tags, but not paragraph tags. I did not know that. Thanks ;-) -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: border around a word?
Steve Rickaby wrote: At 17:24 -0500 6/8/07, Peter Gold wrote: It is perhaps a little easier to size and position a text line inside an inline anchored frame, than a text frame. You can create the text with the text line tool (the A tool on the Graphics tool panel), and drag or paste it inside an anchored frame that's set to at insertion point and has been shrunk with the keystroke sequence Escape m p (tap each key, lower case required). Peter is right. All you lose by this is the ability to apply para and char tags to the framed word. Your application will determine how important this is for you. Actually, you lose more. 1. words in text lines are ignored during a spell check. 2. this method screws up translation, especially when you use CAT. Instead of one sentence, the CAT will see two sentences and one word, with no apparent connection between the three. 3. If you ever change your template, you're screwed: all those words in text lines will have to be manually reformatted. Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FW: border around a word?
Hi Gunnar, I sent this to you yesterday and forgot to cc the list. Here is summary of most common method for an inline anchored frame. _ Maxwell Hoffmann -Original Message- From: Maxwell Hoffmann Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:54 AM To: 'Gunnar Carlsson' Subject: RE: border around a word? Gunnar, FrameMaker has no real equivalent for putting real borders or highlighter around words or paragraphs. If you want to box a paragraph, put it in a single cell table. The techique below (while crude) will put a box around two words on the character level and allow them to paginate during editing. You are essentially creating a small anchored frame: == insert cursor where you desire to box the words == select and COPY the two words == use drawing tools to create a textline ([A] icon) in margin of the page == select the text line as an object (control click) and CUT it to clipboard == use delete key to get rid of the original in-line two words to be boxed == insert cursor where beginning of two words was and PASTE (a below insertion point anchored frame is created with the two words in it) == with anchored frame selected, use following keys (one at a time): ESC m p this will shrinkwrap the graphic text and make the anchored frame slightly larger than the two words == select the anchored frame and use drawing tools to turn make the border of anchored frame black == with anchored frame still selected, zoom to 200% and press ALT cursor down until the baseline of the boxed text aligns with text before and after == you now have boxed text that will move with text as you add or delete content in that paragraph ... Obviously if you need to repeat the same boxed words, you can simply copy/paste the anchored frame. You can also select the anchored frame and applied a solid fill pattern, then whatever color or tint you want to achieve what looks like highlighter background. There are other techniques as well, but this one works pretty well for me in training materials if I want to avoid using graphics or screen captures for buttons and such. I hope this helps you. Maxwell Hoffmann Manager of Consulting Training Solutions ENLASO Corporation T: 805 494 9571 * F: 805 435 1920 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ♦ ENLASO Corporation provides quality enterprise language solutions and exceeds client expectations through continuing research, development, and implementation of effective localization processes and technologies. Visit: www.translate.com for more information or to subscribe to our complimentary localization newsletter. http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gunnar Carlsson Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:29 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: border around a word? Hi, Does anyone know if there is an easy way to put a border around 1-2 words in a sentence, for example to mark a button. Example: Please press ABORT to leave this funcion. Here I would like to have a thin border around ABORT. It is very simple to do in Word, but I have not found anything like that in FrameMaker. Any idea? Gunnar Carlsson ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
border around a word?
At 17:11 -0700 6/8/07, Courtney Collins wrote: >I haven't ever tried this, but what about creating a box on the reference page >and using that instead of the lines that usually appear there? I'm home now, >but I will try ot tomorrow at work if I get time. Not sure if this would work. The purpose - or one of them - of reference frame graphics is to use in association with the 'Frame above' and 'Frame below' features in the Paragraph Designer. I can tell you from experience that if you use negative vertical leading to try to superimpose a reference frame graphic over a paragraph, as you would have to to frame, say, a heading, the text does not display correctly. The best I have ever managed was a line below and to the right of a [standard] one-word paragraph [it said 'INTRODUCTION']. However, you want a frame around a specific word. I don't see a way of getting round having to resize the frame to fit the word each time. As I mentioned before, if it's just a small subset of words, SP's Autotext plug-in will give you an easy and cheap way of inserting the composite object. -- Steve
border around a word?
On 8/7/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: > Peter is right. All you lose by this is the ability to apply para and char > tags to the framed word. Your application will determine how important this > is for you. Text lines accept character tags, but not paragraph tags. Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
border around a word?
At 06:04 -0500 7/8/07, Peter Gold wrote: >Text lines accept character tags, but not paragraph tags. I did not know that. Thanks ;-) -- Steve
border around a word?
Steve Rickaby wrote: > At 17:24 -0500 6/8/07, Peter Gold wrote: > >> It is perhaps a little easier to size and position a text line >> inside an "inline" anchored frame, than a text frame. You can create >> the text with the text line tool (the "A" tool on the Graphics tool >> panel), and drag or paste it inside an anchored frame that's set to >> "at insertion point" and has been shrunk with the keystroke sequence >> Escape m p (tap each key, lower case required). > > Peter is right. All you lose by this is the ability to apply > para and char tags to the framed word. Your application will > determine how important this is for you. Actually, you lose more. 1. words in text lines are ignored during a spell check. 2. this method screws up translation, especially when you use CAT. Instead of one sentence, the CAT will see two sentences and one word, with no apparent connection between the three. 3. If you ever change your template, you're screwed: all those words in text lines will have to be manually reformatted. Harro de Jong
border around a word?
If I was going to put a border around a word, I would insert a text frame at the appropriate place, insert a table with one row and one column, set the appropriate width, set the margins to 2 pt or so, and set the appropriate ruling style. Then I would insert the word or phrase.
FW: border around a word?
Hi Gunnar, I sent this to you yesterday and forgot to "cc" the list. Here is summary of most common method for an inline anchored frame. _ Maxwell Hoffmann -Original Message- From: Maxwell Hoffmann Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:54 AM To: 'Gunnar Carlsson' Subject: RE: border around a word? Gunnar, FrameMaker has no real equivalent for putting "real" borders or highlighter around words or paragraphs. If you want to box a paragraph, put it in a single cell table. The techique below (while crude) will put a box around two words on the character level and allow them to paginate during editing. You are essentially creating a small anchored frame: == insert cursor where you desire to "box" the words == select and COPY the two words == use drawing tools to create a "textline" ([A] icon) in margin of the page == select the text line as an object (control click) and CUT it to clipboard == use delete key to get rid of the original in-line two words to be boxed == insert cursor where beginning of two words was and PASTE (a below insertion point anchored frame is created with the two words in it) == with anchored frame selected, use following keys (one at a time): ESC m p this will "shrinkwrap" the graphic text and make the anchored frame slightly larger than the two words == select the anchored frame and use drawing tools to turn make the border of anchored frame black == with anchored frame still selected, zoom to 200% and press ALT cursor down until the baseline of the "boxed" text aligns with text before and after == you now have "boxed" text that will move with text as you add or delete content in that paragraph ... Obviously if you need to repeat the same boxed words, you can simply copy/paste the anchored frame. You can also select the anchored frame and applied a solid fill pattern, then whatever color or tint you want to achieve what looks like highlighter background. There are other techniques as well, but this one works pretty well for me in training materials if I want to avoid using graphics or screen captures for buttons and such. I hope this helps you. Maxwell Hoffmann Manager of Consulting & Training Solutions ENLASO Corporation T: 805 494 9571 * F: 805 435 1920 E: mhoffmann at translate.com ? ENLASO Corporation provides quality enterprise language solutions and exceeds client expectations through continuing research, development, and implementation of effective localization processes and technologies. Visit: www.translate.com for more information or to subscribe to our complimentary localization newsletter. http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann >-Original Message- >From: framers-bounces+mhoffmann=translate.com at lists.frameusers.com >[mailto:framers-bounces+mhoffmann=translate.com at lists.frameusers.com] >On Behalf Of Gunnar Carlsson >Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:29 AM >To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Subject: border around a word? > >Hi, > >Does anyone know if there is an easy way to put a border around >1-2 words in a sentence, for example to mark a button. Example: >"Please press ABORT to leave this funcion." Here I would like to have >a thin border around ABORT. It is very simple to do in Word, but I >have not found anything like that in FrameMaker. > >Any idea? > >Gunnar Carlsson
border around a word?
Hi, Does anyone know if there is an easy way to put a border around 1-2 words in a sentence, for example to mark a button. Example:Please press ABORT to leave this funcion. Here I would like to have a thin border around ABORT. It is very simple to do in Word, but I have not found anything like that in FrameMaker. Any idea? Gunnar Carlsson ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: border around a word?
At 18:29 +0200 6/8/07, Gunnar Carlsson wrote: Does anyone know if there is an easy way to put a border around 1-2 words in a sentence, for example to mark a button. Example:Please press ABORT to leave this funcion. Here I would like to have a thin border around ABORT. It is very simple to do in Word, but I have not found anything like that in FrameMaker. Not so simple in FrameMaker: there is no basic function that I know of for this. An 'at insertion point' anchored frame with a solid border does it, but you have to have a text frame inside the anchored frame, so positioning and alignment is fiddly. SiliconPrairie's Autotext plug-in offers a quick, easy and cheap method for inserting composite objects like this from its own menu. I'd be interested to know if there is a more elegant solution. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: border around a word?
I don't have a way to make a complete box appear around the words, but I can and do put a line above and below the words. This gets me most of the functionality that I am looking---i.e., the kind of unusual/special emphasis that you are striving for, I think! To do this, I created a character format called Important, but this can be anything, of course! :). I set its default font to have an underline (specifically, the Numeric Underline) *and* an Overline. See the character designer for more information. Applying this to the words in question, gives me *most* of the equivalent of the MS Word capability: lines above and below the words, but not the left and right side. Z Gunnar Carlsson wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if there is an easy way to put a border around 1-2 words in a sentence, for example to mark a button. Example:Please press ABORT to leave this funcion. Here I would like to have a thin border around ABORT. It is very simple to do in Word, but I have not found anything like that in FrameMaker. Any idea? Gunnar Carlsson ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
border around a word?
Hi, Does anyone know if there is an easy way to put a border around 1-2 words in a sentence, for example to mark a button. Example:"Please press ABORT to leave this funcion." Here I would like to have a thin border around ABORT. It is very simple to do in Word, but I have not found anything like that in FrameMaker. Any idea? Gunnar Carlsson
border around a word?
At 18:29 +0200 6/8/07, Gunnar Carlsson wrote: >Does anyone know if there is an easy way to put a border around 1-2 words in a >sentence, for example to mark a button. >Example:"Please press ABORT to leave this funcion." Here I would like to >have a thin border around ABORT. It is very simple to do in Word, but I have >not found anything like that in FrameMaker. Not so simple in FrameMaker: there is no basic function that I know of for this. An 'at insertion point' anchored frame with a solid border does it, but you have to have a text frame inside the anchored frame, so positioning and alignment is fiddly. SiliconPrairie's Autotext plug-in offers a quick, easy and cheap method for inserting composite objects like this from its own menu. I'd be interested to know if there is a more elegant solution. -- Steve
border around a word?
It is perhaps a little easier to size and position a text line inside an "inline" anchored frame, than a text frame. You can create the text with the text line tool (the "A" tool on the Graphics tool panel), and drag or paste it inside an anchored frame that's set to "at insertion point" and has been shrunk with the keystroke sequence Escape m p (tap each key, lower case required). You position this inline anchored frame with Alt+arrow key, and you position the text line inside it also with Alt+arrow. To select the text line (rather than the text characters within the anchored frame) Ctrl+click on the text. A similar approach could be to create a graphic and import or paste it into a similarly-created inline anchored frame. If the point size of the button changes in different contexts, you'd need a different graphic for each. Another solution is to use a key-cap font, so one character represents the key, icon, or button. You may have to search around with Google to find a font that meets your needs. On 8/6/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: > I'd be interested to know if there is a more elegant solution. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
border around a word?
I don't have a way to make a complete box appear around the words, but I can and do put a line above and below the words. This gets me most of the functionality that I am looking---i.e., the kind of unusual/special emphasis that you are striving for, I think! To do this, I created a character format called "Important", but this can be anything, of course! :). I set its default font to have an underline (specifically, the "Numeric Underline") *and* an "Overline". See the character designer for more information. Applying this to the words in question, gives me *most* of the equivalent of the MS Word capability: lines above and below the words, but not the left and right side. Z Gunnar Carlsson wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know if there is an easy way to put a border around 1-2 > words in a sentence, for example to mark a button. > Example:"Please press ABORT to leave this funcion." Here I would > like to have a thin border around ABORT. It is very simple to do in > Word, but I have not found anything like that in FrameMaker. > > Any idea? > > Gunnar Carlsson
