RE: single character page numbering (with no hyphen)

2010-02-16 Thread Ken Poshedly
Ouch, not so hard!!!

I'd heard from a few others about the Master Pages issue and will 
check into that when I get to the office this morning. (It's coming 
up on 6:30 a.m. here and I leave by 7 to get there by 8:30 a.m. -- a 
53-mile jaunt).

-- Kenpo in metro Atlanta


At 02:58 AM 2/16/2010, Combs, Richard wrote:
Ken, if you were here right now, I'd put on my chrome Patton helmet, 
slap you upside the head, and bark, Snap out of it, soldier! But 
that's probably just the adult beverages talking.

Stop looking at Format This and Format That, and actually 
_look_at_the_footers_ on your master pages. I'm guessing they 
contain either  -# or $chapnum-# (sans quotes, of course). 
Delete the - (or $chapnum-), and you're good to go.

But remind yourself not to import page layouts from a chapter file 
to your frontmatter files. If you're going to use folio numbering 
(chapter#-page#) for your chapters and traditional roman numbering 
(i, ii, etc.) for your frontmatter, then you have to use different 
master pages for the frontmatter files.

Richard


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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: single character page numbering (with no hyphen)

FM8.0 on a Windows Vista platform

I'm sure there's a simple answer for this, but I've really tried all
I can think of and can't seem to find a way to get rid of the
preceding hyphen for a page number within a footer.

Like it or not, I'm trying to place just a single, lower-case Roman
numeral in the footer of my TOC. So with the file open and Master
Pages view selected, I choose Format  Headers  Footers  Insert Page #

What I get is a hyphen preceding the pound-sign variable or
placeholder or whatever it is.

I've checked Format  Document  Numbering and tried to make sure
there is nothing in the Chapter box.

I've checked Format  Paragraph Designer  Numbering (just to see if
a hyphen is included in the numbering equation) but there is no
numbering scheme to found there at all.

I've checked Special  Variable  Edit Definition and deleted the
unnecessary building blocks for Current Page # (leaving only
$curpagenum with no preceding hyphen) and, for whatever reason,
that didn't work.

Note that in the rest of the book, I do use a chapter number with
hyphen with page number combo. But I don't want it that way in the
TOC and I don't want to designate the TOC as section 0. No comments,
please, on my choice of document or numbering decisions.

So short of actually typing in an i and an ii and so on, what else to do?

-- Kenpo in Atlanta


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single character page numbering (with no hyphen)

2010-02-16 Thread Combs, Richard
Ken, if you were here right now, I'd put on my chrome Patton helmet, slap you 
upside the head, and bark, "Snap out of it, soldier!" But that's probably just 
the adult beverages talking. 

Stop looking at Format This and Format That, and actually _look_at_the_footers_ 
on your master pages. I'm guessing they contain either " -#" or "<$chapnum>-#" 
(sans quotes, of course). Delete the "-" (or "<$chapnum>-"), and you're good to 
go. 

But remind yourself not to import page layouts from a chapter file to your 
frontmatter files. If you're going to use folio numbering (chapter#-page#) for 
your chapters and traditional roman numbering (i, ii, etc.) for your 
frontmatter, then you have to use different master pages for the frontmatter 
files. 

Richard



From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Mon 2/15/2010 7:14 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: single character page numbering (with no hyphen)



FM8.0 on a Windows Vista platform

I'm sure there's a simple answer for this, but I've really tried all
I can think of and can't seem to find a way to get rid of the
preceding hyphen for a page number within a footer.

Like it or not, I'm trying to place just a single, lower-case Roman
numeral in the footer of my TOC. So with the file open and Master
Pages view selected, I choose Format > Headers & Footers > Insert Page #

What I get is a hyphen preceding the pound-sign variable or
placeholder or whatever it is.

I've checked Format > Document > Numbering and tried to make sure
there is nothing in the Chapter box.

I've checked Format > Paragraph Designer > Numbering (just to see if
a hyphen is included in the numbering equation) but there is no
numbering scheme to found there at all.

I've checked Special > Variable > Edit Definition and deleted the
unnecessary building blocks for Current Page # (leaving only
<$curpagenum> with no preceding hyphen) and, for whatever reason,
that didn't work.

Note that in the rest of the book, I do use a chapter number with
hyphen with page number combo. But I don't want it that way in the
TOC and I don't want to designate the TOC as section 0. No comments,
please, on my choice of document or numbering decisions.

So short of actually typing in an i and an ii and so on, what else to do?

-- Kenpo in Atlanta


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single character page numbering (with no hyphen)

2010-02-16 Thread Ken Poshedly
Ouch, not so hard!!!

I'd heard from a few others about the Master Pages issue and will 
check into that when I get to the office this morning. (It's coming 
up on 6:30 a.m. here and I leave by 7 to get there by 8:30 a.m. -- a 
53-mile jaunt).

-- Kenpo in metro Atlanta


At 02:58 AM 2/16/2010, Combs, Richard wrote:
>Ken, if you were here right now, I'd put on my chrome Patton helmet, 
>slap you upside the head, and bark, "Snap out of it, soldier!" But 
>that's probably just the adult beverages talking.
>
>Stop looking at Format This and Format That, and actually 
>_look_at_the_footers_ on your master pages. I'm guessing they 
>contain either " -#" or "<$chapnum>-#" (sans quotes, of course). 
>Delete the "-" (or "<$chapnum>-"), and you're good to go.
>
>But remind yourself not to import page layouts from a chapter file 
>to your frontmatter files. If you're going to use folio numbering 
>(chapter#-page#) for your chapters and traditional roman numbering 
>(i, ii, etc.) for your frontmatter, then you have to use different 
>master pages for the frontmatter files.
>
>Richard
>
>
>--
>From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Ken Poshedly
>Sent: Mon 2/15/2010 7:14 PM
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: single character page numbering (with no hyphen)
>
>FM8.0 on a Windows Vista platform
>
>I'm sure there's a simple answer for this, but I've really tried all
>I can think of and can't seem to find a way to get rid of the
>preceding hyphen for a page number within a footer.
>
>Like it or not, I'm trying to place just a single, lower-case Roman
>numeral in the footer of my TOC. So with the file open and Master
>Pages view selected, I choose Format > Headers & Footers > Insert Page #
>
>What I get is a hyphen preceding the pound-sign variable or
>placeholder or whatever it is.
>
>I've checked Format > Document > Numbering and tried to make sure
>there is nothing in the Chapter box.
>
>I've checked Format > Paragraph Designer > Numbering (just to see if
>a hyphen is included in the numbering equation) but there is no
>numbering scheme to found there at all.
>
>I've checked Special > Variable > Edit Definition and deleted the
>unnecessary building blocks for Current Page # (leaving only
><$curpagenum> with no preceding hyphen) and, for whatever reason,
>that didn't work.
>
>Note that in the rest of the book, I do use a chapter number with
>hyphen with page number combo. But I don't want it that way in the
>TOC and I don't want to designate the TOC as section 0. No comments,
>please, on my choice of document or numbering decisions.
>
>So short of actually typing in an i and an ii and so on, what else to do?
>
>-- Kenpo in Atlanta
>
>
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single character page numbering (with no hyphen)

2010-02-15 Thread Ken Poshedly
FM8.0 on a Windows Vista platform

I'm sure there's a simple answer for this, but I've really tried all 
I can think of and can't seem to find a way to get rid of the 
preceding hyphen for a page number within a footer.

Like it or not, I'm trying to place just a single, lower-case Roman 
numeral in the footer of my TOC. So with the file open and Master 
Pages view selected, I choose Format  Headers  Footers  Insert Page #

What I get is a hyphen preceding the pound-sign variable or 
placeholder or whatever it is.

I've checked Format  Document  Numbering and tried to make sure 
there is nothing in the Chapter box.

I've checked Format  Paragraph Designer  Numbering (just to see if 
a hyphen is included in the numbering equation) but there is no 
numbering scheme to found there at all.

I've checked Special  Variable  Edit Definition and deleted the 
unnecessary building blocks for Current Page # (leaving only 
$curpagenum with no preceding hyphen) and, for whatever reason, 
that didn't work.

Note that in the rest of the book, I do use a chapter number with 
hyphen with page number combo. But I don't want it that way in the 
TOC and I don't want to designate the TOC as section 0. No comments, 
please, on my choice of document or numbering decisions.

So short of actually typing in an i and an ii and so on, what else to do?

-- Kenpo in Atlanta


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Re: single character page numbering (with no hyphen)

2010-02-15 Thread Writer
Are you applying the same right/left master pages to the TOC as you're 
applying to the body chapters, or did you create a different template 
for the TOC? When you update the book, is the Apply Master Pages option 
cleared?

Nadine

On 15/02/2010 9:14 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote:
 FM8.0 on a Windows Vista platform

 I'm sure there's a simple answer for this, but I've really tried all
 I can think of and can't seem to find a way to get rid of the
 preceding hyphen for a page number within a footer.

 Like it or not, I'm trying to place just a single, lower-case Roman
 numeral in the footer of my TOC. So with the file open and Master
 Pages view selected, I choose Format  Headers  Footers  Insert Page #

 What I get is a hyphen preceding the pound-sign variable or
 placeholder or whatever it is.

 I've checked Format  Document  Numbering and tried to make sure
 there is nothing in the Chapter box.

 I've checked Format  Paragraph Designer  Numbering (just to see if
 a hyphen is included in the numbering equation) but there is no
 numbering scheme to found there at all.

 I've checked Special  Variable  Edit Definition and deleted the
 unnecessary building blocks for Current Page # (leaving only
 $curpagenum  with no preceding hyphen) and, for whatever reason,
 that didn't work.

 Note that in the rest of the book, I do use a chapter number with
 hyphen with page number combo. But I don't want it that way in the
 TOC and I don't want to designate the TOC as section 0. No comments,
 please, on my choice of document or numbering decisions.

 So short of actually typing in an i and an ii and so on, what else to do?

 -- Kenpo in Atlanta


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Re: single character page numbering (with no hyphen)

2010-02-15 Thread Steve Johnson
I'm not sure what you're doing wrong but hopefully this will help...
Our TOCs are set up this way and first, go to the master page and find
the page number. We define ours as a variable with this value:

$curpagenum

You should define the page numbering format at the book level, so from
the book, right-click the TOC, click Numbering, click the Page tab,
and make sure it's set for roman numerals.

Although this sounds like what you're doing, something is not right or
it would be working for you.

Finally, it doesn't make any difference if, in the Numbering dialog
box, you have something entered in the Chapter tag. That won't
automatically insert a hyphen in your TOC.

Save the changes to the book and regenerate.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 FM8.0 on a Windows Vista platform

 I'm sure there's a simple answer for this, but I've really tried all
 I can think of and can't seem to find a way to get rid of the
 preceding hyphen for a page number within a footer.

 Like it or not, I'm trying to place just a single, lower-case Roman
 numeral in the footer of my TOC. So with the file open and Master
 Pages view selected, I choose Format  Headers  Footers  Insert Page #

 What I get is a hyphen preceding the pound-sign variable or
 placeholder or whatever it is.

 I've checked Format  Document  Numbering and tried to make sure
 there is nothing in the Chapter box.

 I've checked Format  Paragraph Designer  Numbering (just to see if
 a hyphen is included in the numbering equation) but there is no
 numbering scheme to found there at all.

 I've checked Special  Variable  Edit Definition and deleted the
 unnecessary building blocks for Current Page # (leaving only
 $curpagenum with no preceding hyphen) and, for whatever reason,
 that didn't work.

 Note that in the rest of the book, I do use a chapter number with
 hyphen with page number combo. But I don't want it that way in the
 TOC and I don't want to designate the TOC as section 0. No comments,
 please, on my choice of document or numbering decisions.

 So short of actually typing in an i and an ii and so on, what else to do?

 -- Kenpo in Atlanta


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RE: single character page numbering (with no hyphen)

2010-02-15 Thread Combs, Richard
Ken, if you were here right now, I'd put on my chrome Patton helmet, slap you 
upside the head, and bark, Snap out of it, soldier! But that's probably just 
the adult beverages talking. 
 
Stop looking at Format This and Format That, and actually _look_at_the_footers_ 
on your master pages. I'm guessing they contain either  -# or $chapnum-# 
(sans quotes, of course). Delete the - (or $chapnum-), and you're good to 
go. 
 
But remind yourself not to import page layouts from a chapter file to your 
frontmatter files. If you're going to use folio numbering (chapter#-page#) for 
your chapters and traditional roman numbering (i, ii, etc.) for your 
frontmatter, then you have to use different master pages for the frontmatter 
files. 
 
Richard



From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Mon 2/15/2010 7:14 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: single character page numbering (with no hyphen)



FM8.0 on a Windows Vista platform

I'm sure there's a simple answer for this, but I've really tried all
I can think of and can't seem to find a way to get rid of the
preceding hyphen for a page number within a footer.

Like it or not, I'm trying to place just a single, lower-case Roman
numeral in the footer of my TOC. So with the file open and Master
Pages view selected, I choose Format  Headers  Footers  Insert Page #

What I get is a hyphen preceding the pound-sign variable or
placeholder or whatever it is.

I've checked Format  Document  Numbering and tried to make sure
there is nothing in the Chapter box.

I've checked Format  Paragraph Designer  Numbering (just to see if
a hyphen is included in the numbering equation) but there is no
numbering scheme to found there at all.

I've checked Special  Variable  Edit Definition and deleted the
unnecessary building blocks for Current Page # (leaving only
$curpagenum with no preceding hyphen) and, for whatever reason,
that didn't work.

Note that in the rest of the book, I do use a chapter number with
hyphen with page number combo. But I don't want it that way in the
TOC and I don't want to designate the TOC as section 0. No comments,
please, on my choice of document or numbering decisions.

So short of actually typing in an i and an ii and so on, what else to do?

-- Kenpo in Atlanta


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single character page numbering (with no hyphen)

2010-02-15 Thread Ken Poshedly
FM8.0 on a Windows Vista platform

I'm sure there's a simple answer for this, but I've really tried all 
I can think of and can't seem to find a way to get rid of the 
preceding hyphen for a page number within a footer.

Like it or not, I'm trying to place just a single, lower-case Roman 
numeral in the footer of my TOC. So with the file open and Master 
Pages view selected, I choose Format > Headers & Footers > Insert Page #

What I get is a hyphen preceding the pound-sign variable or 
placeholder or whatever it is.

I've checked Format > Document > Numbering and tried to make sure 
there is nothing in the Chapter box.

I've checked Format > Paragraph Designer > Numbering (just to see if 
a hyphen is included in the numbering equation) but there is no 
numbering scheme to found there at all.

I've checked Special > Variable > Edit Definition and deleted the 
unnecessary building blocks for Current Page # (leaving only 
<$curpagenum> with no preceding hyphen) and, for whatever reason, 
that didn't work.

Note that in the rest of the book, I do use a chapter number with 
hyphen with page number combo. But I don't want it that way in the 
TOC and I don't want to designate the TOC as section 0. No comments, 
please, on my choice of document or numbering decisions.

So short of actually typing in an i and an ii and so on, what else to do?

-- Kenpo in Atlanta




single character page numbering (with no hyphen)

2010-02-15 Thread Writer
Are you applying the same right/left master pages to the TOC as you're 
applying to the body chapters, or did you create a different template 
for the TOC? When you update the book, is the Apply Master Pages option 
cleared?

Nadine

On 15/02/2010 9:14 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote:
> FM8.0 on a Windows Vista platform
>
> I'm sure there's a simple answer for this, but I've really tried all
> I can think of and can't seem to find a way to get rid of the
> preceding hyphen for a page number within a footer.
>
> Like it or not, I'm trying to place just a single, lower-case Roman
> numeral in the footer of my TOC. So with the file open and Master
> Pages view selected, I choose Format>  Headers&  Footers>  Insert Page #
>
> What I get is a hyphen preceding the pound-sign variable or
> placeholder or whatever it is.
>
> I've checked Format>  Document>  Numbering and tried to make sure
> there is nothing in the Chapter box.
>
> I've checked Format>  Paragraph Designer>  Numbering (just to see if
> a hyphen is included in the numbering equation) but there is no
> numbering scheme to found there at all.
>
> I've checked Special>  Variable>  Edit Definition and deleted the
> unnecessary building blocks for Current Page # (leaving only
> <$curpagenum>  with no preceding hyphen) and, for whatever reason,
> that didn't work.
>
> Note that in the rest of the book, I do use a chapter number with
> hyphen with page number combo. But I don't want it that way in the
> TOC and I don't want to designate the TOC as section 0. No comments,
> please, on my choice of document or numbering decisions.
>
> So short of actually typing in an i and an ii and so on, what else to do?
>
> -- Kenpo in Atlanta
>
>
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single character page numbering (with no hyphen)

2010-02-15 Thread Steve Johnson
I'm not sure what you're doing wrong but hopefully this will help...
Our TOCs are set up this way and first, go to the master page and find
the page number. We define ours as a variable with this value:

<$curpagenum>

You should define the page numbering format at the book level, so from
the book, right-click the TOC, click Numbering, click the Page tab,
and make sure it's set for roman numerals.

Although this sounds like what you're doing, something is not right or
it would be working for you.

Finally, it doesn't make any difference if, in the Numbering dialog
box, you have something entered in the Chapter tag. That won't
automatically insert a hyphen in your TOC.

Save the changes to the book and regenerate.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Ken Poshedly  wrote:
> FM8.0 on a Windows Vista platform
>
> I'm sure there's a simple answer for this, but I've really tried all
> I can think of and can't seem to find a way to get rid of the
> preceding hyphen for a page number within a footer.
>
> Like it or not, I'm trying to place just a single, lower-case Roman
> numeral in the footer of my TOC. So with the file open and Master
> Pages view selected, I choose Format > Headers & Footers > Insert Page #
>
> What I get is a hyphen preceding the pound-sign variable or
> placeholder or whatever it is.
>
> I've checked Format > Document > Numbering and tried to make sure
> there is nothing in the Chapter box.
>
> I've checked Format > Paragraph Designer > Numbering (just to see if
> a hyphen is included in the numbering equation) but there is no
> numbering scheme to found there at all.
>
> I've checked Special > Variable > Edit Definition and deleted the
> unnecessary building blocks for Current Page # (leaving only
> <$curpagenum> with no preceding hyphen) and, for whatever reason,
> that didn't work.
>
> Note that in the rest of the book, I do use a chapter number with
> hyphen with page number combo. But I don't want it that way in the
> TOC and I don't want to designate the TOC as section 0. No comments,
> please, on my choice of document or numbering decisions.
>
> So short of actually typing in an i and an ii and so on, what else to do?
>
> -- Kenpo in Atlanta
>
>
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