techniques to indicate hyperlinks in frame

2007-01-16 Thread Shlomo Perets
Kevin,

You wrote:

>... I'm looking for a simple but effective technique of visually
>indicating, in the PDF version of the guide, that certain text strings
>are hyperlinks.
>Ideally, this technique would be invisible in the print version, where
>the links obviously wouldn't work. ...

A simple solution, available with Acrobat/Reader 6 and higher, is to have a 
screen-only underline property for links. (This underline also looks much 
better than the standard FM underline, which is often displayed as having 
inconsistent thickness).

For more information and sample files, see 
http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF.html#19

You can change link properties in Acrobat (for all links at, once in recent 
versions of Acrobat),  after the PDF file is created. (It is also possible 
to automate this process with FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers, so that you 
get the desired properties automatically and consistently upon distilling).


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat





Re: techniques to indicate hyperlinks in frame

2007-01-16 Thread Shlomo Perets

Kevin,

You wrote:


... I'm looking for a simple but effective technique of visually
indicating, in the PDF version of the guide, that certain text strings
are hyperlinks.
Ideally, this technique would be invisible in the print version, where
the links obviously wouldn't work. ...


A simple solution, available with Acrobat/Reader 6 and higher, is to have a 
screen-only underline property for links. (This underline also looks much 
better than the standard FM underline, which is often displayed as having 
inconsistent thickness).


For more information and sample files, see 
http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF.html#19


You can change link properties in Acrobat (for all links at, once in recent 
versions of Acrobat),  after the PDF file is created. (It is also possible 
to automate this process with FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers, so that you 
get the desired properties automatically and consistently upon distilling).



Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat


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techniques to indicate hyperlinks in frame

2007-01-15 Thread Stuart Rogers
Kevin Hunter wrote:

> 
> I'm looking for a simple but effective technique of visually
> indicating, in the PDF version of the guide, that certain text
> strings are hyperlinks. Ideally, this technique would be invisible in
> the print version, where the links obviously wouldn't work.
> 
> I don't want to include full URLs in the text flow because they can
> be long and ugly, and functionally useless: ie, no one is going to
> type in a 200 character URL (which may be the actual address address
> of a page, with all it's parameters, to subscribe to a web event)
> when the same URL can be gotten to by clicking a link directly from
> our home page. So in the text, I want to tell them how to find the
> link, and in the PDF version of the guide, I want part of those
> instructions to also BE a hyperlink.
> 
> I've thought of using a simple icon to include within my text flow,
> which I'd hyperlink. This icon would be visible in both the printed
> and PDF versions of the guide, as I'm not sure it'd be worth the
> hassle to condition it out of the PDF I send to the printers. This
> isn't necessarily a totally undesirable solution, but I was just
> wondering if anyone had something more elegant, or knew of a standard
> for this type of thing.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

One approach:

Type the text that you want to be the visible link. It does not have to 
be the URL itself.

Insert somewhere within that text a hypertext marker that contains the 
ugly, lengthy URL (but is invisible in both print and online versions).

Select the link text and apply a character format. In your print 
template, that format would be defined with all parameters As-Is. In 
your online template, it would be defined with some distinct 
parameter(s) such as blue underlined.

Frame will make all the text tagged with that char format an active 
hyperlink. In print it won't look any different from body content. In 
PDF it will be a visibly clickable link.

Caveat: if your link text forms an entire pgf by itself, make sure to 
put a space at the end of it and *don't* apply the char tag to the 
space. If you apply a char tag to an entire pgf, FM treats it as an 
override to the default pgf font. Overrides = bad.

Tip: TinyURL.com will convert URLs of any length to a short string such 
as http://tinyurl.com/q3phn (instead of 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/editions/home_basic.mspx).
If you use Firefox as your browser, add the TinyURL Creator extension, 
and you can right-click on a Web page to have a TinyURL created and 
copied to your clipboard.


-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"Developers explain How the Product Works.
Technical writers explain How to Work the Product."


Get Firefox!
http://tinyurl.com/8q9c5



Re: techniques to indicate hyperlinks in frame

2007-01-15 Thread Stuart Rogers

Kevin Hunter wrote:



I'm looking for a simple but effective technique of visually
indicating, in the PDF version of the guide, that certain text
strings are hyperlinks. Ideally, this technique would be invisible in
the print version, where the links obviously wouldn't work.

I don't want to include full URLs in the text flow because they can
be long and ugly, and functionally useless: ie, no one is going to
type in a 200 character URL (which may be the actual address address
of a page, with all it's parameters, to subscribe to a web event)
when the same URL can be gotten to by clicking a link directly from
our home page. So in the text, I want to tell them how to find the
link, and in the PDF version of the guide, I want part of those
instructions to also BE a hyperlink.

I've thought of using a simple icon to include within my text flow,
which I'd hyperlink. This icon would be visible in both the printed
and PDF versions of the guide, as I'm not sure it'd be worth the
hassle to condition it out of the PDF I send to the printers. This
isn't necessarily a totally undesirable solution, but I was just
wondering if anyone had something more elegant, or knew of a standard
for this type of thing.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.


One approach:

Type the text that you want to be the visible link. It does not have to 
be the URL itself.


Insert somewhere within that text a hypertext marker that contains the 
ugly, lengthy URL (but is invisible in both print and online versions).


Select the link text and apply a character format. In your print 
template, that format would be defined with all parameters As-Is. In 
your online template, it would be defined with some distinct 
parameter(s) such as blue underlined.


Frame will make all the text tagged with that char format an active 
hyperlink. In print it won't look any different from body content. In 
PDF it will be a visibly clickable link.


Caveat: if your link text forms an entire pgf by itself, make sure to 
put a space at the end of it and *don't* apply the char tag to the 
space. If you apply a char tag to an entire pgf, FM treats it as an 
override to the default pgf font. Overrides = bad.


Tip: TinyURL.com will convert URLs of any length to a short string such 
as http://tinyurl.com/q3phn (instead of 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/editions/home_basic.mspx).
If you use Firefox as your browser, add the TinyURL Creator extension, 
and you can right-click on a Web page to have a TinyURL created and 
copied to your clipboard.



--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"Developers explain How the Product Works.
Technical writers explain How to Work the Product."


Get Firefox!
http://tinyurl.com/8q9c5
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RE: techniques to indicate hyperlinks in frame

2007-01-15 Thread Matt Sullivan
Use 2 nearly identical template files
1)  Called "PDF Template" with a Link character tag showing desired online
formatting
2)  Called "Print Template" with a Link character tag set to "As Is"

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Subject: techniques to indicate hyperlinks in frame

hello everyone,
 
This is not strictly a Frame technical issue, but could turn into one, so I
thought I'd try you first.
 
We use frame to produce software user guides which we make available in
print or as PDFs. Being a software guide, we have frequent web links for
additional info of various kinds. 
 
I'm looking for a simple but effective technique of visually indicating, in
the PDF version of the guide, that certain text strings are hyperlinks. 
Ideally, this technique would be invisible in the print version, where the
links obviously wouldn't work.
 
I don't want to include full URLs in the text flow because they can be long
and ugly, and functionally useless: ie, no one is going to type in a 200
character URL (which may be the actual address address of a page, with all
it's parameters, to subscribe to a web event) when the same URL can be
gotten to by clicking a link directly from our home page. So in the text, I
want to tell them how to find the link, and in the PDF version of the guide,
I want part of those instructions to also BE a hyperlink. 
 
I've thought of using a simple icon to include within my text flow, which
I'd hyperlink. This icon would be visible in both the printed and PDF
versions of the guide, as I'm not sure it'd be worth the hassle to condition
it out of the PDF I send to the printers. This isn't necessarily a totally
undesirable solution, but I was just wondering if anyone had something more
elegant, or knew of a standard for this type of thing.
 
Thanks in advance for any suggestions. 
 
Kevin Hunter
BCD
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techniques to indicate hyperlinks in frame

2007-01-15 Thread Matt Sullivan
Use 2 nearly identical template files
1)  Called "PDF Template" with a Link character tag showing desired online
formatting
2)  Called "Print Template" with a Link character tag set to "As Is"

-Matt Sullivan



GRAFIX Training, Inc.

An Adobe Authorized Training Center

www.grafixtraining.com

888 882-2819 


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Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:13 AM
To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: techniques to indicate hyperlinks in frame

hello everyone,

This is not strictly a Frame technical issue, but could turn into one, so I
thought I'd try you first.

We use frame to produce software user guides which we make available in
print or as PDFs. Being a software guide, we have frequent web links for
additional info of various kinds. 

I'm looking for a simple but effective technique of visually indicating, in
the PDF version of the guide, that certain text strings are hyperlinks. 
Ideally, this technique would be invisible in the print version, where the
links obviously wouldn't work.

I don't want to include full URLs in the text flow because they can be long
and ugly, and functionally useless: ie, no one is going to type in a 200
character URL (which may be the actual address address of a page, with all
it's parameters, to subscribe to a web event) when the same URL can be
gotten to by clicking a link directly from our home page. So in the text, I
want to tell them how to find the link, and in the PDF version of the guide,
I want part of those instructions to also BE a hyperlink. 

I've thought of using a simple icon to include within my text flow, which
I'd hyperlink. This icon would be visible in both the printed and PDF
versions of the guide, as I'm not sure it'd be worth the hassle to condition
it out of the PDF I send to the printers. This isn't necessarily a totally
undesirable solution, but I was just wondering if anyone had something more
elegant, or knew of a standard for this type of thing.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions. 

Kevin Hunter
BCD
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techniques to indicate hyperlinks in frame

2007-01-15 Thread Kevin Hunter
hello everyone,
 
This is not strictly a Frame technical issue, but could turn into one, so I 
thought I'd try you first.
 
We use frame to produce software user guides which we make available in print 
or as PDFs. Being a software guide, we have frequent web links for additional 
info of various kinds. 
 
I'm looking for a simple but effective technique of visually indicating, in the 
PDF version of the guide, that certain text strings are hyperlinks. 
Ideally, this technique would be invisible in the print version, where the 
links obviously wouldn't work.
 
I don't want to include full URLs in the text flow because they can be long and 
ugly, and functionally useless: ie, no one is going to type in a 200 character 
URL (which may be the actual address address of a page, with all it's 
parameters, to subscribe to a web event) when the same URL can be gotten to by 
clicking a link directly from our home page. So in the text, I want to tell 
them how to find the link, and in the PDF version of the guide, I want part of 
those instructions to also BE a hyperlink. 
 
I've thought of using a simple icon to include within my text flow, which I'd 
hyperlink. This icon would be visible in both the printed and PDF versions of 
the guide, as I'm not sure it'd be worth the hassle to condition it out of the 
PDF I send to the printers. This isn't necessarily a totally undesirable 
solution, but I was just wondering if anyone had something more elegant, or 
knew of a standard for this type of thing.
 
Thanks in advance for any suggestions. 
 
Kevin Hunter
BCD
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techniques to indicate hyperlinks in frame

2007-01-15 Thread Kevin Hunter
hello everyone,

This is not strictly a Frame technical issue, but could turn into one, so I 
thought I'd try you first.

We use frame to produce software user guides which we make available in print 
or as PDFs. Being a software guide, we have frequent web links for additional 
info of various kinds. 

I'm looking for a simple but effective technique of visually indicating, in the 
PDF version of the guide, that certain text strings are hyperlinks. 
Ideally, this technique would be invisible in the print version, where the 
links obviously wouldn't work.

I don't want to include full URLs in the text flow because they can be long and 
ugly, and functionally useless: ie, no one is going to type in a 200 character 
URL (which may be the actual address address of a page, with all it's 
parameters, to subscribe to a web event) when the same URL can be gotten to by 
clicking a link directly from our home page. So in the text, I want to tell 
them how to find the link, and in the PDF version of the guide, I want part of 
those instructions to also BE a hyperlink. 

I've thought of using a simple icon to include within my text flow, which I'd 
hyperlink. This icon would be visible in both the printed and PDF versions of 
the guide, as I'm not sure it'd be worth the hassle to condition it out of the 
PDF I send to the printers. This isn't necessarily a totally undesirable 
solution, but I was just wondering if anyone had something more elegant, or 
knew of a standard for this type of thing.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions. 

Kevin Hunter
BCD