Save FrameMaker 8.0 files to 6.0

[Clara Hall]

I am doing some freelance work in FrameMaker.  One of the requirements is
that the work be done in FM 6.0.  I am currently working with FM 8.0.  Is
there a way to develop in 8.0 and then somehow save the files to be
compatible to 6.0. Maybe saving them as a mif files?  Would that work?

 

Also, does anyone know where I could get a copy of FM 6.0?

Thank you in advance for your help.

 

Clara Hall

Technical Documentation Manager

Aerospace Technologies Group, Inc.

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RE: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

[Tim J. Slager]

The newer MSO Picture Manager also saves files with no quality loss. It is also 
handy for batch exporting to other formats or sizes.

tims

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard Melanson
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:25 AM
To: Pat Christenson; Pinkham, Jim
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: RE: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

Does anyone remember Microsoft Photo Editor. Trying to get photos,
screen captures, any graphic out of Word using everything I have learned
over 16 years being a technical writer never worked. One day I happened
to be on one of the old computers at my home and Microsoft Photo Editor
was installed, so I put the Word file on the old computer, opened it,
copied a graphic from it into Photo Editor by selecting Edit then Past
as New Image in Photo Editor and VOILA, I could save as .BMP, .JPG, etc
with NO QUALITY LOSS. I use the method to this day. Hope everyone finds
this helpful.
Rick

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pat
Christenson
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:36 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: Re: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

Hi all -

I just found out that client is going to make the writers recapture all
the screens so I'm off the hook. Thanks for all the helpful info!

Pat

On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote:

 It's always a last-ditch optioin, but it risks a sometimes harsh cost 
 in compromised image quality.

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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 3:22 PM
 To: Frame Users
 Cc: Pat Christenson
 Subject: RE: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

 Pat,

 The best way I have found to do this is to print the Word document to 
 PDF, then use Acrobat to extract the applicable pages and crop away 
 everything except the graphics you need. Then the PDF becomes your 
 source file for the graphics. This works no matter what the original 
 graphic format was or how they got into Word.

 Clint


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 425 743 8674 | Fax: +1 425 743 8113

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 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:09 PM
 To: Frame Users
 Subject: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

 Hi -

 I have approximately 2000 pages to convert from Word to Frame. The 
 graphics are embedded but the client wants them imported by reference 
 in Frame. I tried extracting them from Word by saving a file as HTML

 but the graphics became blurry and unusable. They look fine when I 
 open the Word file in Frame.

 Is there a way to extract graphics from Word without losing quality?
 Or a utility that converts embedded graphics in Frame into imported- 
 by-reference?

 Thanks for any help.

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Re: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

[Gaghan, Steven P.]

Hi All,
Another way to get the graphics involves using Word 2007.

1.   Create a copy of the file saving it using the .docx extension.

2.   Go to the folder where you saved the docx.

3.   Change the file extension from .docx to .zip. For example, 
sample.docx would become sample.zip. A zip file is created.

4.   Extract the contents of the zip file.

5.   Open the extracted folder, and go to word  media. All of the images 
used in the document are in the media folder in their original file format. 
The original names of the images are lost, but you have all of the images in 
one folder.

I hope that helps!

Thanks,

Steven P. Gaghan


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Re: Windows 7 and Frame 7.1

[Steve Johnson]

Frame 7 installs fine in Windows 7 but I have limited experience with using it.

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Dov Isaacs isa...@adobe.com wrote:
 FrameMaker 9 is a 32-bit program that will properly install and run under 
 Windows Vista
 and Windows 7 64-bit versions.

 FrameMaker 7.1 is also a 32-bit program. Adobe does not officially support it 
 under
 Windows Vista or Windows 7, either 32-bit or 64-bit version. You may coerce 
 it to install
 and run in those environments, but YMMV and you are on your own for any 
 support.

        - Dov

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 Subject: Windows 7 and Frame 7.1

 Looking at doing a (forced) computer upgrade and I seem to recall some 
 threads concerning this
 subject.

 Am I correct in remembering that Frame 9 is 64-bit compliant, but Frame 7.1 
 is not?


 Thanks

 J. Paul Kent
 206-383-0539
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Arabic, Hebrew, Farsi, Urdu FrameMaker

[Mahmoud]

Hi All,

I just finished testing a tool I have developed to use FrameMaker, PageMaker, 
Quarck, and freehand with Arabic, Hebrew, Urdu languages.

can any one with any idea to market this tool. it can be used the same way like 
latine languages, no need to cut and pase text, complete files can be imported 
the same like all latine languages.

Mahmoud Ahmed

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msn: sam_8...@hotmail.com


  
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FM stopped crashing

[Shmuel Wolfson]

FM9 used to crash on me very often when I would open the Condition Text 
dialog box, and possible others. I tried something, and so far I don't 
think I've had a single crash. It's been about a week, so I think it's 
worth sharing.


I used to have several dialog boxes combined into one strip, taking 
advantage of FM9's new capabilities. Well, I tried separating all of 
them into separate dialog boxes and since them I haven't had any 
crashes. I still have the Paragraph, Character and Table Designer 
together, and I haven't had any problem.


Just thought I share this with the list.

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Unavailable fonts

[Kristen Abbott]

Hi Framers,

 

I'm sure someone has posted a response to this question, but
unfortunately the archive isn't searchable. (Hint...)

 

Anyway, I'd like to know of a way to remove and replace all the
unavailable fonts in a FM file *before* I open it and see the There are
unavailable fonts message. My only options at that point are to click
OK, in which case it does the replacements, or Cancel, in which case it
doesn't open the file. Even if I let it do the replacements, the FM
Console window shows that it replaced FontX with FontY. How can I get
rid of FontX ahead of time?

 

Even though I have changed all the Para tags to use only available
fonts, the message appears every time I open the file, regardless.
Annoying.

 

Any help is welcome.

 

Thanks-

Kristen

 

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RE: Unavailable fonts

[Combs, Richard]

Kristen Abbott wrote:
 
 I'm sure someone has posted a response to this question, but
 unfortunately the archive isn't searchable. (Hint...)

You can search the archives using Google. Enter search string 
site:lists.frameusers.com (sans quotes). 
 
 Anyway, I'd like to know of a way to remove and replace all the
 unavailable fonts in a FM file *before* I open it and see the There are
 unavailable fonts message. My only options at that point are to click
 OK, in which case it does the replacements, or Cancel, in which case it
 doesn't open the file. Even if I let it do the replacements, the FM
 Console window shows that it replaced FontX with FontY. How can I get
 rid of FontX ahead of time?

You want to magically modify the file without opening it? No can do. :-)

You can get rid of FontX with the file open by finding where it's hiding. The 
archives have lots of detailed info on that, but some of the popular hiding 
spots for fonts are the reference pages and the pgf tags used in the table 
format defaults. But before spending lots of time searching, see below.
 
 Even though I have changed all the Para tags to use only available
 fonts, the message appears every time I open the file, regardless.
 Annoying.

If you're certain you want to banish FontX forever, and permanently replacing 
it with FontY is OK, go to File  Preferences  General and turn off Remember 
Missing Font Names. The next time you open the file with FontX, FM will display 
a slightly different unavailable fonts dialog asking you if it's OK to 
permanently replace FontX with FontY. If you click OK, FontX is gone for good. 

If this sounds appealing, but you'd rather replace FontX with FontZ, that can 
be done by modifying the unknown to known fonts section of the maker.ini file. 
The Customizing FrameMaker manual has info on doing that. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
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Re: Unavailable fonts

[Art Campbell]

In your FM preferences, turn OFF Remember Missing Fonts.

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On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Kristen Abbott kristen_abb...@dell.comwrote:

 Hi Framers,



 I'm sure someone has posted a response to this question, but
 unfortunately the archive isn't searchable. (Hint...)



 Anyway, I'd like to know of a way to remove and replace all the
 unavailable fonts in a FM file *before* I open it and see the There are
 unavailable fonts message. My only options at that point are to click
 OK, in which case it does the replacements, or Cancel, in which case it
 doesn't open the file. Even if I let it do the replacements, the FM
 Console window shows that it replaced FontX with FontY. How can I get
 rid of FontX ahead of time?



 Even though I have changed all the Para tags to use only available
 fonts, the message appears every time I open the file, regardless.
 Annoying.



 Any help is welcome.



 Thanks-

 Kristen



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Re: Unavailable fonts: more or less resolved!

[Kristen Abbott]

Thanks to both Richard Combs and Art Campbell for their suggestions. I
did also spend a bit of time trolling through the archives the hard way,
before they sent me some easier search tips (thanks, guys!), and had
already found the 'turn off remember missing fonts' tidbit.

 

That helps, and I did also look on the Master Pages and Ref Pages and
didn't find anything obvious. But I bet you're right, it could be
lurking there.

 

As for mucking in the .ini file, I just might try that! I'm peeved
enough (and determined enough) to root around in there.  

 

Thanks for the help! This is a great list.

 

-Kristen

 

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Re: Windows 7 and Frame 7.1

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IF the computer's hardware supports emulation...

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On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Avraham Makeler amake...@gmail.com wrote:

 I understand that MS offers a free XP emulator that you can download and
  install. This helps to run older apps on Win7 64-bit.

 avraham



 On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:03 AM, Dov Isaacs isa...@adobe.com wrote:

  FrameMaker 9 is a 32-bit program that will properly install and run under
  Windows Vista
  and Windows 7 64-bit versions.
 
  FrameMaker 7.1 is also a 32-bit program. Adobe does not officially
 support
  it under
  Windows Vista or Windows 7, either 32-bit or 64-bit version. You may
 coerce
  it to install
  and run in those environments, but YMMV and you are on your own for any
  support.
 
 - Dov
 
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   Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 7:36 PM
   To: Framers; Framers
   Subject: Windows 7 and Frame 7.1
  
   Looking at doing a (forced) computer upgrade and I seem to recall some
  threads concerning this
   subject.
  
   Am I correct in remembering that Frame 9 is 64-bit compliant, but Frame
  7.1 is not?
  
  
   Thanks
  
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Save FrameMaker 8.0 files to 6.0

[LW White]

Hi Clara,

Yes, if you save the files as .mif files or .rtf files, they should be openable 
in Frame 6.0, but perhaps not pristine, due to the large version gap. Any 
post-6.0 functionality will be lost, so you'll need to be careful not to use 
any of that functionality. As for where to get a copy, that's a tough one. I 
would suggest e-Bay or craigslist or somewhere like that. It's 8- or 9-year-old 
software, after all. For kicks, I Googled FrameMaker 6.0 purchase and got 
several promising links.

Good luck,
Leigh


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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 08:25:36 -0400
Subject: Save FrameMaker 8.0 files to 6.0

I am doing some freelance work in FrameMaker.  One of the requirements is
that the work be done in FM 6.0.  I am currently working with FM 8.0.  Is
there a way to develop in 8.0 and then somehow save the files to be
compatible to 6.0. Maybe saving them as a mif files?  Would that work?
 
 
 
Also, does anyone know where I could get a copy of FM 6.0?
 
Thank you in advance for your help.
 
 
 
Clara Hall
 
Technical Documentation Manager
 
Aerospace Technologies Group, Inc.
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Re: Save FrameMaker 8.0 files to 6.0

[Scott Prentice]

It looks like there are currently 3 auctions on eBay for FM6 .. one for 
Windows, Mac, and Unix. Just enter FrameMaker 6 in the search field.


eBay can be a good place to get old versions of software, but you do 
take your chance at getting something bogus. Be sure to check out the 
seller to see that he/she looks reasonably legit, and it's best if they 
accept refunds. That's not always possible, but if you do get a bad disk 
or something that's not as described, you can dispute it via PayPal 
(assuming you use PayPal to pay .. which I'd recommend for eBay purchases).


Just be sure that the CD comes with a serial number.

Cheers,

...scott


LW White wrote:

Hi Clara,

Yes, if you save the files as .mif files or .rtf files, they should be openable in Frame 
6.0, but perhaps not pristine, due to the large version gap. Any post-6.0 functionality 
will be lost, so you'll need to be careful not to use any of that functionality. As for 
where to get a copy, that's a tough one. I would suggest e-Bay or craigslist or somewhere 
like that. It's 8- or 9-year-old software, after all. For kicks, I Googled 
FrameMaker 6.0 purchase and got several promising links.

Good luck,
Leigh


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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 08:25:36 -0400
Subject: Save FrameMaker 8.0 files to 6.0

I am doing some freelance work in FrameMaker.  One of the requirements is
that the work be done in FM 6.0.  I am currently working with FM 8.0.  Is
there a way to develop in 8.0 and then somehow save the files to be
compatible to 6.0. Maybe saving them as a mif files?  Would that work?
 
 
 
Also, does anyone know where I could get a copy of FM 6.0?
 
Thank you in advance for your help.
 
 
 
Clara Hall
 
Technical Documentation Manager
 
Aerospace Technologies Group, Inc. 		 	   		  
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Re: FM stopped crashing

[Alan T Litchfield]

It is telling when someone thinks worthy of note to say that their  
application has *stopped* crashing ;)


Alan

On 6/07/2010, at 11:47 PM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

FM9 used to crash on me very often when I would open the Condition  
Text dialog box, and possible others. I tried something, and so far  
I don't think I've had a single crash. It's been about a week, so I  
think it's worth sharing.


I used to have several dialog boxes combined into one strip, taking  
advantage of FM9's new capabilities. Well, I tried separating all of  
them into separate dialog boxes and since them I haven't had any  
crashes. I still have the Paragraph, Character and Table Designer  
together, and I haven't had any problem.


Just thought I share this with the list.



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Re: Save FrameMaker 8.0 files to 6.0

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 08:25:36 -0400, Clara Hall ch...@atgshades.com wrote:

I am doing some freelance work in FrameMaker.  One of the requirements is
that the work be done in FM 6.0.  I am currently working with FM 8.0.  Is
there a way to develop in 8.0 and then somehow save the files to be
compatible to 6.0. Maybe saving them as a mif files?  Would that work?

To a degree.  You can save as FM7 MIF, and FM6 can open the result,
but it's not what you'd get from creating the docs in FM6.  Watch
out for numbering strings in particular.  FM8 uses Unicode, FM6
uses FrameRoman encoding (similar but not identical to older 
Mac encoding).  In some cases, for example bullets, you may see
the Unicode for the bullet rather than the FrameRoman.  It's
not the way I'd want to deliver work to a client if I couldn't 
check it in FM6 myself first.

Also, does anyone know where I could get a copy of FM 6.0?

eBay is usually the best bet.  Try to get an *unopened* copy,
to avoid problems with software already registered to someone 
else.  Another, much more expensive, option is to join the 
Adobe Transactional Licensing Program:
 http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/volumelicensing/tlp/

 Adobe's Transactional Licensing Program (TLP) 5 makes 
 it easy to get volume pricing with no membership
 requirements and no agreements to sign. This program
 is available worldwide to commercial, education, and
 government  organizations and covers most Adobe desktop
 products.

You can then buy FM9 and downgrade to 6 (or any other
earlier version) with official blessings.  This makes a 
lot of sense for companies who already have large Frame 
installations and just need one or two added copies; 
they don't have to upgrade everyone (not financially 
possible in most cases these days) or else switch to 
Word.  ;-)  They can just get one or two licenses and 
downgrade to match the rest of their installed base.

Note that you *cannot* downgrade if you purchase the
copy of Frame any other way (like retail).  You must
use the TLP.

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RE: FM stopped crashing

[Alison Craig]

I have been having exactly the same problem, so I'm going to give this a try.

Thanks for the tip.

Alison

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Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 1:14 PM
To: Shmuel Wolfson
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: FM stopped crashing

It is telling when someone thinks worthy of note to say that their  
application has *stopped* crashing ;)

Alan

On 6/07/2010, at 11:47 PM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

 FM9 used to crash on me very often when I would open the Condition  
 Text dialog box, and possible others. I tried something, and so far  
 I don't think I've had a single crash. It's been about a week, so I  
 think it's worth sharing.

 I used to have several dialog boxes combined into one strip, taking  
 advantage of FM9's new capabilities. Well, I tried separating all of  
 them into separate dialog boxes and since them I haven't had any  
 crashes. I still have the Paragraph, Character and Table Designer  
 together, and I haven't had any problem.

 Just thought I share this with the list.


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Unresolved text inset book errors

[Timothy DeWees]

I just replaced a bunch of text insets in a book with new text inset files.
I deleted the old text inset files from the folder which are no longer being
used. Everything seems to be working fine, but when I regenerate the book, I
get a stream of unresolved text inset errors listing the file names for
those insets I deleted. However, those are no longer in use. When I do a
book search for unresolved text insets, the search does not find any.  I can
even generate a pdf and everything looks fine.  So there doesn't seem to be
an actual problem, it is just annoying that every time I regen the book, I
get this long list of errors. Any ideas?  Thanks.

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RE: Unavailable fonts

[Lizak, Samantha]

Richard suggests just turning off the Remember missing font names. In
the past, I have had unavailable fonts turn up in legacy documents where
that trick did not work. 

If the font is in an default paragraph format of an unused table type,
save the file as .mif and search on the font name. You can either change
it there, or simply remove the table type definition from the mif. 

If you save as .mif and the font does not show up, chances are it is in
an imported graphic. Some types seem to carry font information in their
metadata, even though the text is not separately selectable. The
fast-and-dirty workaround (because of course this always turns up when
you are trying to meet a deadline) is to take a screen capture of the
graphic and replace the offender. (Captures from PDF usually look better
than captures from the FM itself, if you have a decent PDF around.)

Incidentally, I am guessing you want to run this check before opening
the file because you have a script that batch processes the files. (We
do, too.) If there is a way to do this, the guys that maintain our batch
scripts haven't lit on it; the scripts exit with an informative error
instead. And that is why I have gotten good at hunting these things
down. :-)

Regards-

Sam.

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs,
Richard
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:15 AM
To: Kristen Abbott; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Unavailable fonts

Kristen Abbott wrote:
 
 I'm sure someone has posted a response to this question, but
 unfortunately the archive isn't searchable. (Hint...)

You can search the archives using Google. Enter search string
site:lists.frameusers.com (sans quotes). 
 
 Anyway, I'd like to know of a way to remove and replace all the
 unavailable fonts in a FM file *before* I open it and see the There
are
 unavailable fonts message. My only options at that point are to click
 OK, in which case it does the replacements, or Cancel, in which case
it
 doesn't open the file. Even if I let it do the replacements, the FM
 Console window shows that it replaced FontX with FontY. How can I get
 rid of FontX ahead of time?

You want to magically modify the file without opening it? No can do. :-)

You can get rid of FontX with the file open by finding where it's
hiding. The archives have lots of detailed info on that, but some of the
popular hiding spots for fonts are the reference pages and the pgf
tags used in the table format defaults. But before spending lots of time
searching, see below.
 
 Even though I have changed all the Para tags to use only available
 fonts, the message appears every time I open the file, regardless.
 Annoying.

If you're certain you want to banish FontX forever, and permanently
replacing it with FontY is OK, go to File  Preferences  General and
turn off Remember Missing Font Names. The next time you open the file
with FontX, FM will display a slightly different unavailable fonts
dialog asking you if it's OK to permanently replace FontX with FontY. If
you click OK, FontX is gone for good. 

If this sounds appealing, but you'd rather replace FontX with FontZ,
that can be done by modifying the unknown to known fonts section of the
maker.ini file. The Customizing FrameMaker manual has info on doing
that. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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re:missing font names

[Rob Wallis]

Hello all.
If you open the document and let the substitution happen, then check the
console to get the missing name, do a character format search for that
font in the document. It should appear greyed(grayed)out.
Then you can remove the offending characters and that should
permanently fix the problem.

Cheers

Rob





Kristen wrote:

Hi Framers,



I'm sure someone has posted a response to this question, but
unfortunately the archive isn't searchable. (Hint...)



Anyway, I'd like to know of a way to remove and replace all the
unavailable fonts in a FM file *before* I open it and see the There are
unavailable fonts message. My only options at that point are to click
OK, in which case it does the replacements, or Cancel, in which case it
doesn't open the file. Even if I let it do the replacements, the FM
Console window shows that it replaced FontX with FontY. How can I get
rid of FontX ahead of time?



Even though I have changed all the Para tags to use only available
fonts, the message appears every time I open the file, regardless.
Annoying.



Any help is welcome.



Thanks-

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FM stopped crashing

[Shmuel Wolfson]

FM9 used to crash on me very often when I would open the Condition Text 
dialog box, and possible others. I tried something, and so far I don't 
think I've had a single crash. It's been about a week, so I think it's 
worth sharing.

I used to have several dialog boxes combined into one strip, taking 
advantage of FM9's new capabilities. Well, I tried separating all of 
them into separate dialog boxes and since them I haven't had any 
crashes. I still have the Paragraph, Character and Table Designer 
together, and I haven't had any problem.

Just thought I share this with the list.

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

Unavailable fonts

[Kristen Abbott]

Hi Framers,



I'm sure someone has posted a response to this question, but
unfortunately the archive isn't searchable. (Hint...)



Anyway, I'd like to know of a way to remove and replace all the
unavailable fonts in a FM file *before* I open it and see the "There are
unavailable fonts" message. My only options at that point are to click
OK, in which case it does the replacements, or Cancel, in which case it
doesn't open the file. Even if I let it do the replacements, the FM
Console window shows that it replaced FontX with FontY. How can I get
rid of FontX ahead of time?



Even though I have changed all the Para tags to use only available
fonts, the message appears every time I open the file, regardless.
Annoying.



Any help is welcome.



Thanks-

Kristen

Unavailable fonts

[Combs, Richard]

Kristen Abbott wrote:

> I'm sure someone has posted a response to this question, but
> unfortunately the archive isn't searchable. (Hint...)

You can search the archives using Google. Enter "search string 
site:lists.frameusers.com" (sans quotes). 

> Anyway, I'd like to know of a way to remove and replace all the
> unavailable fonts in a FM file *before* I open it and see the "There are
> unavailable fonts" message. My only options at that point are to click
> OK, in which case it does the replacements, or Cancel, in which case it
> doesn't open the file. Even if I let it do the replacements, the FM
> Console window shows that it replaced FontX with FontY. How can I get
> rid of FontX ahead of time?

You want to magically modify the file without opening it? No can do. :-)

You can get rid of FontX with the file open by finding where it's hiding. The 
archives have lots of detailed info on that, but some of the "popular" hiding 
spots for fonts are the reference pages and the pgf tags used in the table 
format defaults. But before spending lots of time searching, see below.

> Even though I have changed all the Para tags to use only available
> fonts, the message appears every time I open the file, regardless.
> Annoying.

If you're certain you want to banish FontX forever, and permanently replacing 
it with FontY is OK, go to File > Preferences > General and turn off Remember 
Missing Font Names. The next time you open the file with FontX, FM will display 
a slightly different unavailable fonts dialog asking you if it's OK to 
permanently replace FontX with FontY. If you click OK, FontX is gone for good. 

If this sounds appealing, but you'd rather replace FontX with FontZ, that can 
be done by modifying the unknown to known fonts section of the maker.ini file. 
The Customizing FrameMaker manual has info on doing that. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
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303-223-5111
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Unavailable fonts

[Art Campbell]

In your FM preferences, turn OFF "Remember Missing Fonts."

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On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Kristen Abbott wrote:

> Hi Framers,
>
>
>
> I'm sure someone has posted a response to this question, but
> unfortunately the archive isn't searchable. (Hint...)
>
>
>
> Anyway, I'd like to know of a way to remove and replace all the
> unavailable fonts in a FM file *before* I open it and see the "There are
> unavailable fonts" message. My only options at that point are to click
> OK, in which case it does the replacements, or Cancel, in which case it
> doesn't open the file. Even if I let it do the replacements, the FM
> Console window shows that it replaced FontX with FontY. How can I get
> rid of FontX ahead of time?
>
>
>
> Even though I have changed all the Para tags to use only available
> fonts, the message appears every time I open the file, regardless.
> Annoying.
>
>
>
> Any help is welcome.
>
>
>
> Thanks-
>
> Kristen
>
>
>
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Unavailable fonts: more or less resolved!

[Kristen Abbott]

Thanks to both Richard Combs and Art Campbell for their suggestions. I
did also spend a bit of time trolling through the archives the hard way,
before they sent me some easier search tips (thanks, guys!), and had
already found the 'turn off "remember missing fonts"' tidbit.



That helps, and I did also look on the Master Pages and Ref Pages and
didn't find anything obvious. But I bet you're right, it could be
lurking there.



As for mucking in the .ini file, I just might try that! I'm peeved
enough (and determined enough) to root around in there.  



Thanks for the help! This is a great list.



-Kristen



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Windows 7 and Frame 7.1

[Art Campbell]

IF the computer's hardware supports emulation...

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On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Avraham Makeler  wrote:

> I understand that MS offers a free XP emulator that you can download and
>  install. This helps to run "older" apps on Win7 64-bit.
>
> avraham
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:03 AM, Dov Isaacs  wrote:
>
> > FrameMaker 9 is a 32-bit program that will properly install and run under
> > Windows Vista
> > and Windows 7 64-bit versions.
> >
> > FrameMaker 7.1 is also a 32-bit program. Adobe does not officially
> support
> > it under
> > Windows Vista or Windows 7, either 32-bit or 64-bit version. You may
> coerce
> > it to install
> > and run in those environments, but YMMV and you are on your own for any
> > support.
> >
> >- Dov
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
> > framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Paul Kent
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 7:36 PM
> > > To: Framers; Framers
> > > Subject: Windows 7 and Frame 7.1
> > >
> > > Looking at doing a (forced) computer upgrade and I seem to recall some
> > threads concerning this
> > > subject.
> > >
> > > Am I correct in remembering that Frame 9 is 64-bit compliant, but Frame
> > 7.1 is not?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
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Save FrameMaker 8.0 files to 6.0

[LW White]

Hi Clara,

Yes, if you save the files as .mif files or .rtf files, they should be openable 
in Frame 6.0, but perhaps not pristine, due to the large version gap. Any 
post-6.0 functionality will be lost, so you'll need to be careful not to use 
any of that functionality. As for where to get a copy, that's a tough one. I 
would suggest e-Bay or craigslist or somewhere like that. It's 8- or 9-year-old 
software, after all. For kicks, I Googled "FrameMaker 6.0 purchase" and got 
several promising links.

Good luck,
Leigh


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From: ch...@atgshades.com
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 08:25:36 -0400
Subject: Save FrameMaker 8.0 files to 6.0

I am doing some freelance work in FrameMaker.  One of the requirements is
that the work be done in FM 6.0.  I am currently working with FM 8.0.  Is
there a way to develop in 8.0 and then somehow save the files to be
compatible to 6.0. Maybe saving them as a mif files?  Would that work?



Also, does anyone know where I could get a copy of FM 6.0?

Thank you in advance for your help.



Clara Hall

Technical Documentation Manager

Aerospace Technologies Group, Inc.
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Save FrameMaker 8.0 files to 6.0

[Scott Prentice]

It looks like there are currently 3 auctions on eBay for FM6 .. one for 
Windows, Mac, and Unix. Just enter "FrameMaker 6" in the search field.

eBay can be a good place to get old versions of software, but you do 
take your chance at getting something bogus. Be sure to check out the 
seller to see that he/she looks reasonably legit, and it's best if they 
accept refunds. That's not always possible, but if you do get a bad disk 
or something that's not as described, you can dispute it via PayPal 
(assuming you use PayPal to pay .. which I'd recommend for eBay purchases).

Just be sure that the CD comes with a serial number.

Cheers,

...scott


LW White wrote:
> Hi Clara,
>
> Yes, if you save the files as .mif files or .rtf files, they should be 
> openable in Frame 6.0, but perhaps not pristine, due to the large version 
> gap. Any post-6.0 functionality will be lost, so you'll need to be careful 
> not to use any of that functionality. As for where to get a copy, that's a 
> tough one. I would suggest e-Bay or craigslist or somewhere like that. It's 
> 8- or 9-year-old software, after all. For kicks, I Googled "FrameMaker 6.0 
> purchase" and got several promising links.
>
> Good luck,
> Leigh
>
>
> --Forwarded Message Attachment--
> From: chall at atgshades.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 08:25:36 -0400
> Subject: Save FrameMaker 8.0 files to 6.0
>
> I am doing some freelance work in FrameMaker.  One of the requirements is
> that the work be done in FM 6.0.  I am currently working with FM 8.0.  Is
> there a way to develop in 8.0 and then somehow save the files to be
> compatible to 6.0. Maybe saving them as a mif files?  Would that work?
>  
>  
>  
> Also, does anyone know where I could get a copy of FM 6.0?
>  
> Thank you in advance for your help.
>  
>  
>  
> Clara Hall
>  
> Technical Documentation Manager
>  
> Aerospace Technologies Group, Inc.  
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Save FrameMaker 8.0 files to 6.0

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 08:25:36 -0400, "Clara Hall"  wrote:

>I am doing some freelance work in FrameMaker.  One of the requirements is
>that the work be done in FM 6.0.  I am currently working with FM 8.0.  Is
>there a way to develop in 8.0 and then somehow save the files to be
>compatible to 6.0. Maybe saving them as a mif files?  Would that work?

To a degree.  You can save as FM7 MIF, and FM6 can open the result,
but it's not what you'd get from creating the docs in FM6.  Watch
out for numbering strings in particular.  FM8 uses Unicode, FM6
uses "FrameRoman" encoding (similar but not identical to older 
Mac encoding).  In some cases, for example bullets, you may see
the Unicode for the bullet rather than the FrameRoman.  It's
not the way I'd want to deliver work to a client if I couldn't 
check it in FM6 myself first.

>Also, does anyone know where I could get a copy of FM 6.0?

eBay is usually the best bet.  Try to get an *unopened* copy,
to avoid problems with software already registered to someone 
else.  Another, much more expensive, option is to join the 
Adobe Transactional Licensing Program:
 http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/volumelicensing/tlp/

 Adobe's Transactional Licensing Program (TLP) 5 makes 
 it easy to get volume pricing with no membership
 requirements and no agreements to sign. This program
 is available worldwide to commercial, education, and
 government  organizations and covers most Adobe desktop
 products.

You can then buy FM9 and downgrade to 6 (or any other
earlier version) with official blessings.  This makes a 
lot of sense for companies who already have large Frame 
installations and just need one or two added copies; 
they don't have to upgrade everyone (not financially 
possible in most cases these days) or else switch to 
Word.  ;-)  They can just get one or two licenses and 
downgrade to match the rest of their installed base.

Note that you *cannot* downgrade if you purchase the
copy of Frame any other way (like retail).  You must
use the TLP.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
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FM stopped crashing

[Alison Craig]

I have been having exactly the same problem, so I'm going to give this a try.

Thanks for the tip.

Alison

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Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan T Litchfield
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 1:14 PM
To: Shmuel Wolfson
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: FM stopped crashing

It is telling when someone thinks worthy of note to say that their  
application has *stopped* crashing ;)

Alan

On 6/07/2010, at 11:47 PM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

> FM9 used to crash on me very often when I would open the Condition  
> Text dialog box, and possible others. I tried something, and so far  
> I don't think I've had a single crash. It's been about a week, so I  
> think it's worth sharing.
>
> I used to have several dialog boxes combined into one strip, taking  
> advantage of FM9's new capabilities. Well, I tried separating all of  
> them into separate dialog boxes and since them I haven't had any  
> crashes. I still have the Paragraph, Character and Table Designer  
> together, and I haven't had any problem.
>
> Just thought I share this with the list.
>

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AlphaByte
PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140
New Zealand
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice

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Unresolved text inset book errors

[Timothy DeWees]

I just replaced a bunch of text insets in a book with new text inset files.
I deleted the old text inset files from the folder which are no longer being
used. Everything seems to be working fine, but when I regenerate the book, I
get a stream of unresolved text inset errors listing the file names for
those insets I deleted. However, those are no longer in use. When I do a
book search for unresolved text insets, the search does not find any.  I can
even generate a pdf and everything looks fine.  So there doesn't seem to be
an actual problem, it is just annoying that every time I regen the book, I
get this long list of "errors". Any ideas?  Thanks.

Tim

Unavailable fonts

[Lizak, Samantha]

Richard suggests just turning off the "Remember missing font names". In
the past, I have had unavailable fonts turn up in legacy documents where
that trick did not work. 

If the font is in an default paragraph format of an unused table type,
save the file as .mif and search on the font name. You can either change
it there, or simply remove the table type definition from the mif. 

If you save as .mif and the font does not show up, chances are it is in
an imported graphic. Some types seem to carry font information in their
metadata, even though the text is not separately selectable. The
fast-and-dirty workaround (because of course this always turns up when
you are trying to meet a deadline) is to take a screen capture of the
graphic and replace the offender. (Captures from PDF usually look better
than captures from the FM itself, if you have a decent PDF around.)

Incidentally, I am guessing you want to run this check before opening
the file because you have a script that batch processes the files. (We
do, too.) If there is a way to do this, the guys that maintain our batch
scripts haven't lit on it; the scripts exit with an informative error
instead. And that is why I have gotten good at hunting these things
down. :-)

Regards-

Sam.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs,
Richard
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:15 AM
To: Kristen Abbott; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Unavailable fonts

Kristen Abbott wrote:

> I'm sure someone has posted a response to this question, but
> unfortunately the archive isn't searchable. (Hint...)

You can search the archives using Google. Enter "search string
site:lists.frameusers.com" (sans quotes). 

> Anyway, I'd like to know of a way to remove and replace all the
> unavailable fonts in a FM file *before* I open it and see the "There
are
> unavailable fonts" message. My only options at that point are to click
> OK, in which case it does the replacements, or Cancel, in which case
it
> doesn't open the file. Even if I let it do the replacements, the FM
> Console window shows that it replaced FontX with FontY. How can I get
> rid of FontX ahead of time?

You want to magically modify the file without opening it? No can do. :-)

You can get rid of FontX with the file open by finding where it's
hiding. The archives have lots of detailed info on that, but some of the
"popular" hiding spots for fonts are the reference pages and the pgf
tags used in the table format defaults. But before spending lots of time
searching, see below.

> Even though I have changed all the Para tags to use only available
> fonts, the message appears every time I open the file, regardless.
> Annoying.

If you're certain you want to banish FontX forever, and permanently
replacing it with FontY is OK, go to File > Preferences > General and
turn off Remember Missing Font Names. The next time you open the file
with FontX, FM will display a slightly different unavailable fonts
dialog asking you if it's OK to permanently replace FontX with FontY. If
you click OK, FontX is gone for good. 

If this sounds appealing, but you'd rather replace FontX with FontZ,
that can be done by modifying the unknown to known fonts section of the
maker.ini file. The Customizing FrameMaker manual has info on doing
that. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
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