[Framework-Team] PLIP 242: Move manage-portlets link to site actions

2008-10-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I'm too late for my own deadline, so I have no expectation that the 
framework can review this on time time. If you guys have a bit of spare time 
I would appreciate it though :)


I want to propose PLIP 242 for Plone 3.3: Move manage-portlets link to site 
actions.


Motivation
==

Both portlet columns feature a manage portlets link at the bottom. This
has several problems:

* the location of the link and the fact that each column has its own manage
  portlet link leads users to believe that that link will go to a page to
  configure that specific column, which is not true.
* Many (if not most)l custom themes style the portlet column and have no
  room for the manage portlets-link below the portlets.
* all configuration options are in site or document actions, except for
  manage portlets- a needless inconsistency.

Proposal


Remove the manage portlets-link from the default portlet renderer template 
and replace it with a site action.



Wichert.


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Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 242: Move manage-portlets link to site actions

2008-10-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman

Raphael Ritz wrote:

Wichert Akkerman wrote:
I'm too late for my own deadline, so I have no expectation that the 
framework can review this on time time. If you guys have a bit of 
spare time I would appreciate it though :)


Hi Wichert,

don't worry too much.
At least I planned to start reviewing only after
the conference sprints.



I want to propose PLIP 242 for Plone 3.3: Move manage-portlets link to 
site actions.


While I think I see your point I'm not sure it's the right
place to move it to.

First, I agree that the current situation isn't perfect.

But: those assignments are context depended and site
actions are typically used for (site) global settings.
Now while you can always link to the right URL, of course,
I'm not sure that that would be less confusing.

 From this POV the document actions might be more appropriate,
don't know. Or some new, location specific management category
could be introduced which could also be home for some of
the things we currently put on the edit form for lack of a
better place (like 'exclude from navigation' to give
one example).


I did mention that on the web-version of the PLIP. Site actions works since 
it mostly contains rarely-used items, which includes manage portlets. But 
you are very correct in that document actions would technically be more 
correct.


Wichert.

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Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 242: Move manage-portlets link to site actions

2008-10-09 Thread Raphael Ritz

Wichert Akkerman wrote:
I'm too late for my own deadline, so I have no expectation that the 
framework can review this on time time. If you guys have a bit of 
spare time I would appreciate it though :)


Hi Wichert,

don't worry too much.
At least I planned to start reviewing only after
the conference sprints.



I want to propose PLIP 242 for Plone 3.3: Move manage-portlets link to 
site actions.


While I think I see your point I'm not sure it's the right
place to move it to.

First, I agree that the current situation isn't perfect.

But: those assignments are context depended and site
actions are typically used for (site) global settings.
Now while you can always link to the right URL, of course,
I'm not sure that that would be less confusing.

From this POV the document actions might be more appropriate,
don't know. Or some new, location specific management category
could be introduced which could also be home for some of
the things we currently put on the edit form for lack of a
better place (like 'exclude from navigation' to give
one example).

What do others think?

Raphael





Motivation
==

Both portlet columns feature a manage portlets link at the bottom. This
has several problems:

* the location of the link and the fact that each column has its own 
manage

  portlet link leads users to believe that that link will go to a page to
  configure that specific column, which is not true.
* Many (if not most)l custom themes style the portlet column and have no
  room for the manage portlets-link below the portlets.
* all configuration options are in site or document actions, except for
  manage portlets- a needless inconsistency.

Proposal


Remove the manage portlets-link from the default portlet renderer 
template and replace it with a site action.



Wichert.





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