Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] Plone 3.2 plans

2008-08-03 Thread Jon Stahl



Previously Martin Aspeli wrote:

 I think we're due a new features process. Perhaps we could start
 soliciting PLIPs for 3.3 and get the review process organised at the
 same time that we package up 3.2. I presume 3.2 won't have any PLIPs to
 review (well, maybe one or two package related ones) in any case.

FWIW, Limi, Hanno  I did some housekeeping in Trac last week that 
resulted in Feature Requests being separated from Bug Reports for the 
first time, now with a dedicated report of their own.  I hope we can 
mine the Feature Requests report as a source for user-contributed 
ideas for improvements that might ultimately result in PLIPs.


http://dev.plone.org/plone/report/21

:jon

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[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] Plone 3.2 plans

2008-08-02 Thread Steve McMahon
We've got several tickets for installer improvements that I hope can be
included with 3.2. Joel, Limi, Sidnei and I came up with most of these at
the NOLA symposium. They're tagged with the installerexperience keyword,
and Limi has created a report to summarize them:

http://dev.plone.org/plone/report/19

Currently, these are all assigned for me. Most aren't major, several are
underway, and I think that with good feedback it's reasonable to think I can
finish them for the Unified and OS X installers in a timely way. We'll need
Sidnei's help on the Windows installer.

I'm happy to work through these as tickets. If anyone would like to see
PLIPs for any of them, or thinks they need discussion, chime in.

Steve



On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Previously Martin Aspeli wrote:
  Wichert Akkerman wrote:
   The packaging goal we want to achieve is to move to a fully eggified
   release. I have done some experimentation with that and the result
 works
   remarkably well: I have created a 3.2 branch of ploneout (at
   https://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/ploneout/branches/3.2) which is almost
   fully eggified. It uses the the exact same code as Plone 3.1.x, and
   unless you look at the filesystem layout it is Plone 3.1. This makes me
   confident that this is a goal that we can achieve.
 
  Great!
 
  What isn't eggified yet?

 The products currently still in the 3.2 ploneout are: CMFActionIcons
 CMFCalendar, CMFDefault, CMFDiffTool, CMFEditions, CMFPlacefulWorkflow,
 CMFTopic, CMFUid, DCWorkflow, GroupUserFolder and PloneTranslations.
 I expect that we'll be able to have eggified versions of these in a week
 as well. You may also be interested in hearing that now that Florian has
 created an egg structure for kupu ploneout trunk does not use a single
 product anymore.

  Also - what about Zope itself? I know Andreas is kean to move Zope 2 to
  all eggs soon (and make use of Zope 3.4, which is all eggs). It may make
  sense to co-ordinate here, since a fully eggified CMF/Plone is really
  only half the picture.

 This will be a topic for the black forest sprint in August. I
 eggification of Zope to be a goal for Zope 2.12, which means we won't be
 able to benefit of that for some time. In the meantime we should use the
 fake-zope-eggs option of plone.recipe.zope2install.

   Of course there is no reason to stop working on great new features for
   Plone: in parallel with the work on Plone 3.2 we will also be working
 on
   preparations for Plone 3.3. I will sent a separate mail with plans for
   3.3 during the coming week.
 
  Great. :-)
 
  I think we're due a new features process. Perhaps we could start
  soliciting PLIPs for 3.3 and get the review process organised at the
  same time that we package up 3.2. I presume 3.2 won't have any PLIPs to
  review (well, maybe one or two package related ones) in any case.

 For 3.2 I only want to look at PLIPs that deal with installers. There
 are two PLIPs listed for 3.2 at the moment. 229 is purely an installer
 extension and should be easily doable, especially since I already
 implemented almost the same thing for the Jarn Plone hosting
 environment. 230 is borderline but I'm willing to look at it if it is
 done in the form of an optional new package.

 Wichert.

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