Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Now what do we do?

2006-09-04 Thread Raphael Ritz

Alec Mitchell schrieb:

On 9/1/06, Alexander Limi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[..]
While I think what you are doing is great, it feels like the wrong layer
to solve it at when it comes to embedding something in the core.


+1 to holding off on this (though like limi's, my vote doesn't count 
for much)

and I agree with both of you as BLOB support is landing in ZODB/Zope2/3
more or less right now (if I understood Jim correctly it's scheduled for
Zope 3.4).

It's my feeling that writing and promoting a good how-to on the issue
including how people can deal with this right now (including Plone 2.1.x
and above) would be more valuable than actually getting this into the core.

Just my 2 cents.

Raphael


Alec

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[Framework-Team] Re: Now what do we do?

2006-09-04 Thread Martin Aspeli

Raphael Ritz wrote:

Alec Mitchell schrieb:
On 9/1/06, Alexander Limi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[..]
While I think what you are doing is great, it feels like the wrong layer
to solve it at when it comes to embedding something in the core.


+1 to holding off on this (though like limi's, my vote doesn't count 
for much)

and I agree with both of you as BLOB support is landing in ZODB/Zope2/3
more or less right now (if I understood Jim correctly it's scheduled for
Zope 3.4).


+1


It's my feeling that writing and promoting a good how-to on the issue
including how people can deal with this right now (including Plone 2.1.x
and above) would be more valuable than actually getting this into the core.


+10

I've asked, believe me. :)


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Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Now what do we do?

2006-09-01 Thread Alec Mitchell

On 9/1/06, Alexander Limi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:52:21 -0700, Encolpe Degoute
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Our team wishes to highlight PLIP 154 as we think it is nearly
 implemented by FileSystemStorage + AttachmentField (still SVN).

By the time Plone 3.5 ships, it's highly likely that Zope has proper BLOB
support, and this will no longer be an issue. Zope 2.11 (the current
target) may even have a beta out by the time we ship our first betas, and
depending on the changes, we could possibly support both Zope 2.10 and
Zope 2.11 - we have been able to support two zope releases in all our
releases since Plone 2.0 so far.

While I think what you are doing is great, it feels like the wrong layer
to solve it at when it comes to embedding something in the core.


+1 to holding off on this (though like limi's, my vote doesn't count for much)

Alec

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Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Now what do we do?

2006-08-30 Thread Helge Tesdal

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:31:19 +0200, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Glad you feel that way, I don't want to be seen to tell people what to  
do! Personally, though, I prefer to get a bit of a nudge rather than  
have to do all the leg work myself (and I was in need of a distraction).


Nudge is good.

Do we keep the list somewhere else than in mails? Like on plone.org or in  
SVN?



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Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Now what do we do?

2006-08-30 Thread Martin Aspeli

Helge Tesdal wrote:

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:31:19 +0200, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Glad you feel that way, I don't want to be seen to tell people what to 
do! Personally, though, I prefer to get a bit of a nudge rather than 
have to do all the leg work myself (and I was in need of a distraction).


Nudge is good.

Do we keep the list somewhere else than in mails? Like on plone.org or 
in SVN?


Once people agree, I'll put it in svn, in the review directory.

Martin

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[Framework-Team] Re: Now what do we do?

2006-08-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi all.

Martin Aspeli wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 I took a look at the PLIPs still remaining. I put some preliminary
 names to some of PLIPs, purely along the lines that I thought people
 may be interested in. All the ones with ? in front of them are just
 suggestions - the other ones are the ones Wiggy, Raphael and I said we
 were interested in grabbing.

Thx for these suggestions, as my time is currently a bit limited, I
didn't have time to go through these in detail yet :(

 Hanno
 -
 ? PLIP 142 - Componentise the global content menu
 ? PLIP 173 - OpenID support
 
 This from memory that Hanno knows the insides of PAS, if not, perhaps
 Tesdal would be better suited, but then he may have quite a lot on his
 hands?

I'm happy with these. While I don't have a deep understanding of PAS
internals yet, I trust wiggy has written some very well readable code,
as this should be the basis for a tutorial ;) If it is not, I'll have to
ask some more questions and get some third and forth opinions... After
all this should only be one additional plug-in, not some grand scale
rewrite.

The content menu stuff is probably in good shape too, the only problem I
can foresee is some overly complex design... ;)

/me goes back to fix his submitted bundles

Best wishes,
Hanno


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[Framework-Team] Re: Now what do we do?

2006-08-29 Thread Martin Aspeli

Wichert Akkerman wrote:

Previously Martin Aspeli wrote:

PLIP 173 - OpenID support


This one is mine. The current status shows the design nicely but there
are a couple of essential bits (like session authentication) still
missing (they are listed in the docs in the bundle). I expect it to be
fully stable in abou two weeks.

A reviewer will need to be be reasonably familiar with PAS plugins to be
able to review this I'm afraid.


I nominate Helge Tesdal, who, you know, wrote membrane :)

Martin


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