Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP's for 3.x releases in Trac???
Previously Matthew Wilkes wrote: On 25 Dec 2008, at 17:39, Hanno Schlichting wrote: we just decided to move all PLIP's to Trac for Plone 4 and no longer use plone.org/products/plone for it. Incidentally, I missed this, where was it discussed? Are we going to have a new workflow for PLIPs? I was wondering the same thing. It very much looks like the framework team selection process somehow always invented a new PLIP process behind closed doors. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP's for 3.x releases in Trac???
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Matthew Wilkes wrote: On 25 Dec 2008, at 17:39, Hanno Schlichting wrote: we just decided to move all PLIP's to Trac for Plone 4 and no longer use plone.org/products/plone for it. Incidentally, I missed this, where was it discussed? Are we going to have a new workflow for PLIPs? I was wondering the same thing. It very much looks like the framework team selection process somehow always invented a new PLIP process behind closed doors. I'm not sure where you got the impression. Moving the PLIP's to Trac has been discussed many month back and I effectively put this into practice two month back when adding the first PLIP for Plone 4 to Trac. This has nothing to do with the framework team selection process. Hanno ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP's for 3.x releases in Trac???
Hanno Schlichting wrote: I was wondering the same thing. It very much looks like the framework team selection process somehow always invented a new PLIP process behind closed doors. That's certainly not the case. We did discuss that it's important for FWT members to seek wider community input, but that's hardly radical or new. We did not discuss the process directly. I'm not sure where you got the impression. Moving the PLIP's to Trac has been discussed many month back and I effectively put this into practice two month back when adding the first PLIP for Plone 4 to Trac. This has nothing to do with the framework team selection process. I think it's the release manager prerogative to suggest changes to the process to fit the way he wants to manage the release. However, I think we're due a consolidation and documentation of these (still-proposed, I hope) changes so that everyone is on board. It's good to discuss the changes as we're doing now, and to propose new ways of working. However, I think we risk confusing more casual readers of our mailing lists if we don't arrive at one document that people can comment upon. Martin -- Author of `Professional Plone Development`, a book for developers who want to work with Plone. See http://martinaspeli.net/plone-book ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP's for 3.x releases in Trac???
On Dec 26, 2008, at 5:21 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: I'm not sure where you got the impression. Moving the PLIP's to Trac has been discussed many month back and I effectively put this into practice two month back when adding the first PLIP for Plone 4 to Trac. This has nothing to do with the framework team selection process. I think it's the release manager prerogative to suggest changes to the process to fit the way he wants to manage the release. However, I think we're due a consolidation and documentation of these (still- proposed, I hope) changes so that everyone is on board. It's good to discuss the changes as we're doing now, and to propose new ways of working. However, I think we risk confusing more casual readers of our mailing lists if we don't arrive at one document that people can comment upon. Or to put it another way, major changes to the Plone development process should be PLIPped (or is that PLIPIP'd?), discussed, and voted on just like improvements to the software itself. David Glick Web Developer ONE/Northwest New tools and strategies for engaging people in protecting the environment http://www.onenw.org davidgl...@onenw.org work: (206) 286-1235 x32 mobile: (206) 679-3833 Subscribe to ONEList, our email newsletter! Practical advice for effective online engagement http://www.onenw.org/full_signup ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP's for 3.x releases in Trac???
On 25 Dec 2008, at 17:39, Hanno Schlichting wrote: we just decided to move all PLIP's to Trac for Plone 4 and no longer use plone.org/products/plone for it. Incidentally, I missed this, where was it discussed? Are we going to have a new workflow for PLIPs? Matt ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
