for the record, i totally second andi's approach re: the deadline
issue. it's a tricky dance, for sure and we must never forget that
we're dealing with voluntarily submitted offers of (often) hard work
which shouldn't be cast aside lightly, but then again, we do need a
timetable in order to get out releases in a timely fashion and there
definitely will be a 3.2 coming along not too far down the road.
just my $0.02,
tom
p.s. and yes, maybe it *is* a german thing, andi ;-)
On Dec 22, 2007, at 2:20 PM, Andreas Zeidler wrote:
hi martin,
On Dec 22, 2007, at 1:27 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote:
Andreas Zeidler wrote:
i don't mind about a few hours or timezone differences, but imho
we should consider plips which have been submitted more than a
day late.
that should have read shouldn't, of course — sorry for any
confusion.
Given that this is just the proposal deadline, what's the point in
being so strict?
i just don't think it makes much sense to first give a deadline and
than right away let it slip again, especially with a newly
introduced step in the process. imho we should try to stick with
what we've decided and not sort of give out the message that it's
okay to be late. you're right of course in saying this is only the
proposal deadline, which is not an important one, but then again
people would like to know if their plips have been accepted asap,
and i guess the late submissions are already causing a delay, since
half of the missing votes are for them. and that's not counting the
proposed additions in non-plip form.
otoh i don't think we should or need to be too strict either, which
is why i've included #187 and #221 in the list of pending proposals
and also reviewed and voted for them. i've also made the lateness a
low priority aspect when voting, since we weren't very specific
about handling this beforehand.
Since we're not merging anything at this point, it's hardly going
to delay the release (presuming the later deadlines for review
bundles etc are met).
that's right, but all of the above is just my personal opinion and
does not in any way represent the framework team. it's totally fine
with me if my team-mates think otherwise and outnumber my (non-
negative) votes here... :) however, i think we should indeed be
strict with the review bundle deadline and also with future plip
submission deadlines. maybe it's just a german thing or something,
but imho it shouldn't be to hard and/or time-consuming to write or
at least draft a plip and send out an email to the framework team
within almost three weeks after the announcement of the timeline, no?
cheers,
andi
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