Re: [Frameworks] Anyone else like me out there?

2013-03-19 Thread peter humble
A profile of an artist in Australia active in this area:
https://vimeo.com/36617488

Regards,
Peter

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Re: [Frameworks] ELEPHANTS AND FILM

2013-03-19 Thread David Baker

I need to be clear and then I'll be quiet.

I am not interested in thinking of ways to kill elephants.

I stand in awe and wonder in front of all animals endangered and  
otherwise,

I love all the living creatures of this planet.
Right now today the Elephant is being wiped out with a brutality and  
efficacy

not seen since we Americans destroyed the buffalo.

A tiny group of human beings think that by making films
about what is happening they may be able to educate
those who would kill the elephants and those who buy ivory to the  
horror and stop the killing.


The people who make the films are here:

http://africanenvironmentalfilms.squarespace.com/donate

African Environmental Film Foundation.

( As a point of information, in the African Elephants I am  
specifically speaking about,

both male and female have tusks.)

-DB

PS:  where is Chris Marker when I need him?




On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:06 AM, Sandra Maliga wrote:

Not advocating.  I don't want to see any elephants killed. I have  
no interest in ivory. I can't understand how there could be people  
who do not understand that elephants should never be killed. BUt  
there are. There are people who lie for money and people who listen  
to them.  Moreover people who like ivory have no respect for the  
law. And the laws are not enforced.


 So what can be done?

As I understand the Chinese, they are pretty pragmatic, if I can  
generalize. Maybe taking action to propose a way to get legitimate  
ivory could deflect some of the interest in illegal ivory.
Prohibition leads to crime, legalizing and controlling is better.


When elephants could live and flourish in the wild there were  
natural deaths that left tusks.  If a herd was provided with space  
to thrive tusks could occasionally be found.  If the space was  
limited humans might be able to reverently cull  the herd by  
painlessly killing extra males and gathering their tusks. A mother  
with young would never be killed by rational keepers.


Poachers are not concerned with keeping elephants alive; they care  
only for short term profit.  Poaching must be illegal.  Murdering  
mother elephants must be illegal.


Perhaps another possibility is to pressure the Chinese government to  
enforce the laws.  I went to the Chinese news in English - CCTV  
site   http://passport.cntv.cn/app_pass/verify/english/new/login.jsp?errtype=-5#


 and they have articles about the threats to elephants.   So some  
Chinese are aware.  How do THEY propose to get the word out to those  
who buy ivory?


- Sandy



On Mar 18, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Sandra Maliga neor...@e.com wrote:


This is tragic and infuriating.

Why can't anyone tell the Chinese people that elephants are  
threatened? If elephants are extinct there will be NO MORE IVORY.  
Don't they have media in China? Get the word out.


Why don't the Chinese import some elephants and start their own  
herd? They could manage them carefully and eventually harvest ivory  
when the herd needs thinning. No matter the cost; demand for ivory  
will drive the price ever higher. They could promote homegrown  
ivory as superior.


 Documentaries shown in the US and Europe make us feel bad but  
don't save animals.   How about showing some documentaries in  
China?  How about a message on every cell phone in China?  I'd give  
money for that.


- Sandy Maliga




On Mar 18, 2013, at 11:02 AM, David Baker dbak...@hvc.rr.com wrote:


Esteemed cohorts everyone,

What I really love besides Experimental Film are Elephants.
I LOVE all Elephants but especially those that live free in the  
wild.

I love the complexity of elephant societies.

Something amazing to read is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_cognition

Something important to see is:
National Geographic - Battle For The Elephants (2013)

I hope everybody on this forum is aware of the horror that is  
happening to these animals right now, today.

More Elephants are being killed
than are being born. They are being wiped out, expunged from the  
earth.

The numbers of those massacred are crazy.
Last year 30,000 elephants were murdered.
The killing rate is accelerating. The New York Times describes it  
as a frenzy.
Horribly helicopters and machine guns do the job annihilating  
whole herds.

China is the problem.
The CHINESE demand the elephant's ivory tusks to make ludicrous  
carved luxury goods.


If there is hope it might be through FILM.

Apparently, ridiculously the burgeoning Chinese middle class  
thinks elephant tusks fall out naturally.

They call them elephant teeth.
Using film to educate in Africa and China may be the elephants  
last best hope.


The Experimental Film community can contribute importantly and  
make a difference.
Kickstarter it isn't, but If you want to help or know of a  
cognizant compassionate human being who does

please go here:


http://africanenvironmentalfilms.squarespace.com/donate

or here

http://www.savetheelephants.org/home.html


If you are a teacher please share this 

Re: [Frameworks] ELEPHANTS AND FILM

2013-03-19 Thread kenneth curwood
Edison and Topsy, the salad days of cinema.


On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Brecht Debackere
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 'Unsere Afrika Reise' by Peter Kubelka is a wonderful experimental film
 leaving behind a bitter taste and a feeling of disgust for people killing
 for fun in Africa;
 I'm not sure if there's elephants in there, but maybe it brings your love
 for experimental films and preservation together.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SATUUtoipuc

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 On 19 Mar 2013, at 15:33, David Baker wrote:

 I need to be clear and then I'll be quiet.

 I am not interested in thinking of ways to kill elephants.

 I stand in awe and wonder in front of all animals endangered and otherwise,
 I love all the living creatures of this planet.
 Right now today the Elephant is being wiped out with a brutality and
 efficacy
 not seen since we Americans destroyed the buffalo.

 A tiny group of human beings think that by making films
 about what is happening they may be able to educate
 those who would kill the elephants and those who buy ivory to the horror
 and stop the killing.

 The people who make the films are here:

 http://africanenvironmentalfilms.squarespace.com/donate

 African Environmental Film Foundation.

 ( As a point of information, in the African Elephants I am specifically
 speaking about,
 both male and female have tusks.)

 -DB

 PS:  where is Chris Marker when I need him?




 On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:06 AM, Sandra Maliga wrote:

 Not advocating.  I don't want to see any elephants killed. I have no
 interest in ivory. I can't understand how there could be people who do not
 understand that elephants should never be killed. BUt there are. There are
 people who lie for money and people who listen to them.  Moreover people
 who like ivory have no respect for the law. And the laws are not enforced.

  So what can be done?

 As I understand the Chinese, they are pretty pragmatic, if I can
 generalize. Maybe taking action to propose a way to get legitimate ivory
 could deflect some of the interest in illegal ivory.   Prohibition leads to
 crime, legalizing and controlling is better.

 When elephants could live and flourish in the wild there were natural
 deaths that left tusks.  If a herd was provided with space to thrive tusks
 could occasionally be found.  If the space was limited humans might be able
 to reverently cull  the herd by painlessly killing extra males and
 gathering their tusks. A mother with young would never be killed by
 rational keepers.

 Poachers are not concerned with keeping elephants alive; they care only
 for short term profit.  Poaching must be illegal.  Murdering mother
 elephants must be illegal.

 Perhaps another possibility is to pressure the Chinese government to
 enforce the laws.  I went to the Chinese news in English - CCTV site
 http://passport.cntv.cn/app_pass/verify/english/new/login.jsp?errtype=-5#

  and they have articles about the threats to elephants.   So some Chinese
 are aware.  How do THEY propose to get the word out to those who buy ivory?

 - Sandy



 On Mar 18, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Sandra Maliga neor...@e.com wrote:

 This is tragic and infuriating.

 Why can't anyone tell the Chinese people that elephants are threatened? If
 elephants are extinct there will be NO MORE IVORY. Don't they have media in
 China? Get the word out.

 Why don't the Chinese import some elephants and start their own herd?
 They could manage them carefully and eventually harvest ivory when the herd
 needs thinning. No matter the cost; demand for ivory will drive the price
 ever higher. They could promote homegrown ivory as superior.

  Documentaries shown in the US and Europe make us feel bad but don't save
 animals.   How about showing some documentaries in China?  How about a
 message on every cell phone in China?  I'd give money for that.

 - Sandy Maliga




 On Mar 18, 2013, at 11:02 AM, David Baker dbak...@hvc.rr.com wrote:

 Esteemed cohorts everyone,

 What I really love besides Experimental Film are Elephants.
 I LOVE all Elephants but especially those that live free in the wild.
 I love the complexity of elephant societies.

 Something amazing to read is:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_cognition

 Something important to see is:
 National Geographic - Battle For The Elephants (2013)

 I hope everybody on this forum is aware of the horror that is happening to
 these animals right now, today.
 More Elephants are being killed
 than are being born. They are being wiped out, expunged from the earth.
 The numbers of those massacred are crazy.
 Last year 30,000 elephants were murdered.
 The killing rate is accelerating. The New York Times describes it as a
 frenzy.
 Horribly helicopters and machine guns do the job annihilating whole herds.
 China is the problem.
 The CHINESE demand the elephant's ivory tusks to make ludicrous carved
 

[Frameworks] Save Lolita: new film urges release of captive killer whale

2013-03-19 Thread Sandra Maliga

http://news.mongabay.com/2013/0122-hance-lolita.html


Through his new 90-second PSA,Save Lolita, filmmaker Daniel Azarian wanted to 
connect people to the plight of Lolita on a deeply human level; the only 
problem: Lolita is an orca, also known as a killer whale. But the stark, moving 
PSA succeeds, given the sociability of an individual—human or orca—who was 
stolen from her family and held in captivity for the past 42 years at Miami's 
Seaquarium.



- Sandy Maliga
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Re: [Frameworks] Food

2013-03-19 Thread Chris Kennedy
Robert Fiore has beautiful prints of many of Smithson's films. Don't know
if he has this one. I'll try and suss out his contact. Scott B?


 You can find it at EAI here http://www.eai.org/title.htm?id=761. And the
 Robert Frank collection is at the Houston MFA.


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Re: [Frameworks] Food

2013-03-19 Thread Ryan Marino
What's the name of the Matta-Clark documentary?

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Dennis Doros milefi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bob Fiore persistentpictu...@gmail.com

 Bob has also done a good documentary on Matta-Clark.

 And one of his very first jobs in film, PORTRAIT OF JASON, re-opens on
 April 19th!

 Best regards,
 Dennis Doros
 Milestone Film  Video/Milliarium Zero
 PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
 Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com
 Visit our main website!  www.milestonefilms.com
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 On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Chris Kennedy direc...@lift.on.cawrote:

 Robert Fiore has beautiful prints of many of Smithson's films. Don't know
 if he has this one. I'll try and suss out his contact. Scott B?


  You can find it at EAI here http://www.eai.org/title.htm?id=761. And
 the
  Robert Frank collection is at the Houston MFA.
 
 
  Best regards,
  Dennis Doros
  Milestone Film  Video/Milliarium Zero
  PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
  Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com
  Visit our main website!  www.milestonefilms.com
  Visit our new websites!  www.shirleyclarkefilms.com,
  www.comebackafrica.com
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  On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:20 PM, graeme hogg
  graemeh...@irational.orgwrote:
 
 
  Anyone know who holds 16mm copies of Matta-Clarks 'Food'?
 
 
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Food

2013-03-19 Thread Dennis Doros
Sorry, but it's at home so I just don't have it in front of me.

Dennis

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Ryan Marino ryandmar...@gmail.com wrote:

 What's the name of the Matta-Clark documentary?


 On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Dennis Doros milefi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bob Fiore persistentpictu...@gmail.com

 Bob has also done a good documentary on Matta-Clark.

 And one of his very first jobs in film, PORTRAIT OF JASON, re-opens on
 April 19th!

 Best regards,
 Dennis Doros
 Milestone Film  Video/Milliarium Zero
 PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
 Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com
 Visit our main website!  www.milestonefilms.com
 Visit our new websites!  www.shirleyclarkefilms.com,
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 On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Chris Kennedy direc...@lift.on.cawrote:

 Robert Fiore has beautiful prints of many of Smithson's films. Don't know
 if he has this one. I'll try and suss out his contact. Scott B?


  You can find it at EAI here http://www.eai.org/title.htm?id=761.
 And the
  Robert Frank collection is at the Houston MFA.
 
 
  Best regards,
  Dennis Doros
  Milestone Film  Video/Milliarium Zero
  PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
  Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com
  Visit our main website!  www.milestonefilms.com
  Visit our new websites!  www.shirleyclarkefilms.com,
  www.comebackafrica.com
www.ontheboweryfilm.com
  http://www.killerofsheep.com/
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  On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:20 PM, graeme hogg
  graemeh...@irational.orgwrote:
 
 
  Anyone know who holds 16mm copies of Matta-Clarks 'Food'?
 
 
 
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