Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 transfer
Thanks for the kind words, Robert. Kinetta Archival in NYC (7 West 22nd Street, 6th floor) does 3.3K Kinetta scans from any format film (which is about 5 times the resolution of HD telecine of 4:3 material pillar boxed). Note that some places offering HD telecine actually are doing SD telecine and uprezzing it to HD — not an ideal way to go. We scanned all the Super-8 footage for the recent theatrical documentary OUE NIXON, which looked great on huge theater screens. Email me if you have any questions. Jeff Kreines Kinetta j...@kinetta.com kinetta.com On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Robert Harris wrote: > Get a KINETTA transfer. Contact Jeff Kreines on this list. > Best transfer I've gotten anywhere. > There are perhaps some other competing options, but they're require > significantly bigger budgets. > For a lab style, SD or HD transfer, I've also gotten very good results from > CineLab in MA. > > > > > On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Lyra Hill wrote: > >> Seeking recommendations for a good Super 8 transfer service. Color positive >> with some cement splices. I have very high standards. Tell me about your >> experiences. >> >> Thanks! >> -Lyra >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Jeff Kreines Kinetta j...@kinetta.com kinetta.com kinettaarchival.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 transfer
Hi Lyra, I have been very pleased with the super-8 transfers done for me by Light Press, here in Seattle: http://lightpress.tv/super-8mm/ There telecine process works very well with cement splices. Only problem is that, for the moment, I think there's a slow down because they were using Alpha Cine labs to prep the film. So with the demise of Alpha in Seattle, they are in the process of finding a new partner to prep the films. I strongly recommend their work, for sure. talk to you later, Reed On 31 Oct 2013, at 2:48 PM, Robert Harris wrote: > Get a KINETTA transfer. Contact Jeff Kreines on this list. > Best transfer I've gotten anywhere. > There are perhaps some other competing options, but they're require > significantly bigger budgets. > For a lab style, SD or HD transfer, I've also gotten very good results from > CineLab in MA. > > > > > On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Lyra Hill wrote: > >> Seeking recommendations for a good Super 8 transfer service. Color positive >> with some cement splices. I have very high standards. Tell me about your >> experiences. >> >> Thanks! >> -Lyra >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 transfer
Get a KINETTA transfer. Contact Jeff Kreines on this list. Best transfer I've gotten anywhere. There are perhaps some other competing options, but they're require significantly bigger budgets. For a lab style, SD or HD transfer, I've also gotten very good results from CineLab in MA. On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Lyra Hill wrote: > Seeking recommendations for a good Super 8 transfer service. Color positive > with some cement splices. I have very high standards. Tell me about your > experiences. > > Thanks! > -Lyra > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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[Frameworks] Super 8 transfer
Seeking recommendations for a good Super 8 transfer service. Color positive with some cement splices. I have very high standards. Tell me about your experiences. Thanks! -Lyra ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] (no subject)
I do use D-76 in a class but it is all done very fast and inexactly (without exact water temperature). More for testing and getting a glimpse of hand processing. But I have to say that the results are pretty good. I leave the roll negative and then transfer it to video from the projected image on the wall. Of course, all is very cheap. Then reverse it to positive on Final Cut and the image comes out pretty good. You should try it! Best, Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 12:05:01 + From: d.alexanderb...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] (no subject) Has anyone any experience hand-processing Super 8 Kodak Tri-X 7266? If so, what developer would you suggest? I mix my own D-76 and D-19. Can anyone confirm if D-76 yields a good result? Thanks! -- Daniel Boos Moving Image Artist +44 (0)7719 771712 d.alexanderb...@gmail.com skype: danny.boos ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] publishing suggestions
Hello Bjorn, Thanks for your response. I didn't even think about some of the stuff you are suggesting. It's true that what I have written has a lot to do with my experiences, but there is an academic backbone interpreting the relationship between independent filmmaker and projectionist and how it became an antagonistic one. These days it is imperative for this relationship to be repaired because it adversely affects the life of film prints. What I have written is currently at 3800 words. I expect this could be beneficial to the experimental film crowd, but is much too long for an email. I'm also willing to amend the article if need be to fit certain criteria. Thanks again for your suggestions and other input is also welcome. Best, Huckleberry On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:48 AM, Lundgren <50lundg...@telia.com> wrote: > Hi! > I'm sorry not to have any good tips, but it might help others if you offer > some more details. It seems as if your text is about your own experiences, > rather than an academical treatise? Who do you see as your potential > reader? Such information and hard details like length (number of words) > might help people give good tips. > > Best of luck! > > //Björn > > - Original Message - > *From:* Huckleberry Lain > *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List > *Sent:* Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:28 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] publishing suggestions > > Hey, > Trying again for suggestions. Any publications online or hard copy would > be great. > Thanks, > Huckleberry > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Huckleberry Lain < > huckleberryl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello all, >> I wrote an article that I'm interested in getting published. It's all >> about working with film in an age where all film is one-of-a-kind and how >> to keep your film safe from damage in the projection booth. >> >> As a filmmaker myself and a projectionist for 12 years who has worked for >> 3 different film archives I have seen a lot. I even go into some stories >> giving examples of what you can do as an independent filmmaker distributing >> your own films. >> >> If you have any suggestions please let me know. >> Huckleberry >> >> -- >> hypnotic visions - huckleberrylain.net >> > > > > -- > hypnotic visions - huckleberrylain.net > > -- > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > -- hypnotic visions - huckleberrylain.net On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:48 AM, Lundgren <50lundg...@telia.com> wrote: > ** > Hi! > I'm sorry not to have any good tips, but it might help others if you offer > some more details. It seems as if your text is about your own experiences, > rather than an academical treatise? Who do you see as your potential > reader? Such information and hard details like length (number of words) > might help people give good tips. > > Best of luck! > > //Björn > > - Original Message - > *From:* Huckleberry Lain > *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List > *Sent:* Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:28 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] publishing suggestions > > Hey, > Trying again for suggestions. Any publications online or hard copy would > be great. > Thanks, > Huckleberry > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Huckleberry Lain < > huckleberryl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello all, >> I wrote an article that I'm interested in getting published. It's all >> about working with film in an age where all film is one-of-a-kind and how >> to keep your film safe from damage in the projection booth. >> >> As a filmmaker myself and a projectionist for 12 years who has worked for >> 3 different film archives I have seen a lot. I even go into some stories >> giving examples of what you can do as an independent filmmaker distributing >> your own films. >> >> If you have any suggestions please let me know. >> Huckleberry >> >> -- >> hypnotic visions - huckleberrylain.net >> > > > > -- > hypnotic visions - huckleberrylain.net > > -- > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > -- hypnotic visions - huckleberrylain.net ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] (no subject)
Hi Daniel, We've often used D-76 in our workshops because it's half the price of D-19 if you're buying it off the shelf (which we do). If you're mixing your own, however, you might not have that issue and I'd have to say all things being equal that I prefer the D-19 (just to add my voice to the chorus). One thing we've done to sort of split the difference is use D-19 for the first developer (I assume you're processing as reversal) and D-76 for the second. Seems to work well for us. Best of luck, RW On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 7:05 AM, Daniel Boos wrote: > Has anyone any experience hand-processing Super 8 Kodak Tri-X 7266? If so, > what developer would you suggest? I mix my own D-76 and D-19. Can anyone > confirm if D-76 yields a good result? Thanks! > > > -- > *Daniel Boos* > Moving Image Artist > +44 (0)7719 771712 > d.alexanderb...@gmail.com > skype: danny.boos > > > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] (no subject)
Here is the formula I use, with D-19 Developer. It works very well. For negative, skip to step 11 after step 3: 1. Water Wash 3 MINUTES 2. 1st Developer: Kodak D-19 5 MINUTES *Save this developer, you will use it again at step 7* 3. Water Wash 3 MINUTES 4. Bleach 2 MINUTES *Use extreme caution when pouring bleach* 5. Water Wash 3 MINUTES 6. Clearing Bath 1 MINUTE 30 Sec 7. Water Wash 3 MINUTES 8. Dump film into 11x14 tray Turn light on for re-exposure2 MINUTES 9. 2nd Developer: Kodak D-19 4 MINUTES *Use Developer saved in step 2* 10. Water Wash 3 MINUTES 11. Fixer 6 MINUTES *DO NOT dump expired fix down the drain. Always pour into silver recovery system.* 12. Water Wash 10 MINUTES On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: > D76 is fine for negative processing. It was, in fact, originally designed > for hand-processing 35mm motion picture film. > > D76 will get your gamma in the range of 0.6 to 0.7 if you time it right, > which is about where you want to be for a negative. > > However, if you want a first developer for reversal processing, you will > want a much more contrasty image heading into the bleach. D19 will give > you a gamma exceeding 0.9 coming off the first developer. If you processed > long enough in D-76 to get you enough gamma, you'd be spending all day and > you'd lose detail in the process. > > And, of course, time is just as critical as the developer you use. When > in doubt, shoot a foot or two of a grey scale wedge and hand-process it. > --scott > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] (no subject)
D76 is fine for negative processing. It was, in fact, originally designed for hand-processing 35mm motion picture film. D76 will get your gamma in the range of 0.6 to 0.7 if you time it right, which is about where you want to be for a negative. However, if you want a first developer for reversal processing, you will want a much more contrasty image heading into the bleach. D19 will give you a gamma exceeding 0.9 coming off the first developer. If you processed long enough in D-76 to get you enough gamma, you'd be spending all day and you'd lose detail in the process. And, of course, time is just as critical as the developer you use. When in doubt, shoot a foot or two of a grey scale wedge and hand-process it. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] (no subject)
D76 always works great for me Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2013, at 6:17 AM, "Roger Wilson" wrote: > Hi Daniel > > I prefer D19 myself and recently used the D76 because it was all I had and > was not happy with the results. I will go back to D19. > > > Roger D. Wilson > 613 324 - 7504 > rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca > http://www.rogerdwilson.ca > > Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my > career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as > it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. > > > Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 12:05:01 + > From: d.alexanderb...@gmail.com > To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com > Subject: [Frameworks] (no subject) > > Has anyone any experience hand-processing Super 8 Kodak Tri-X 7266? If so, > what developer would you suggest? I mix my own D-76 and D-19. Can anyone > confirm if D-76 yields a good result? Thanks! > > > -- > Daniel Boos > Moving Image Artist > +44 (0)7719 771712 > d.alexanderb...@gmail.com > skype: danny.boos > > > > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] (no subject)
Hi Daniel I prefer D19 myself and recently used the D76 because it was all I had and was not happy with the results. I will go back to D19. Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 12:05:01 + From: d.alexanderb...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] (no subject) Has anyone any experience hand-processing Super 8 Kodak Tri-X 7266? If so, what developer would you suggest? I mix my own D-76 and D-19. Can anyone confirm if D-76 yields a good result? Thanks! -- Daniel Boos Moving Image Artist +44 (0)7719 771712 d.alexanderb...@gmail.com skype: danny.boos ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] (no subject)
Has anyone any experience hand-processing Super 8 Kodak Tri-X 7266? If so, what developer would you suggest? I mix my own D-76 and D-19. Can anyone confirm if D-76 yields a good result? Thanks! -- *Daniel Boos* Moving Image Artist +44 (0)7719 771712 d.alexanderb...@gmail.com skype: danny.boos ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] publishing suggestions
Hi! I'm sorry not to have any good tips, but it might help others if you offer some more details. It seems as if your text is about your own experiences, rather than an academical treatise? Who do you see as your potential reader? Such information and hard details like length (number of words) might help people give good tips. Best of luck! //Björn - Original Message - From: Huckleberry Lain To: Experimental Film Discussion List Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] publishing suggestions Hey, Trying again for suggestions. Any publications online or hard copy would be great. Thanks, Huckleberry On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Huckleberry Lain wrote: Hello all, I wrote an article that I'm interested in getting published. It's all about working with film in an age where all film is one-of-a-kind and how to keep your film safe from damage in the projection booth. As a filmmaker myself and a projectionist for 12 years who has worked for 3 different film archives I have seen a lot. I even go into some stories giving examples of what you can do as an independent filmmaker distributing your own films. If you have any suggestions please let me know. Huckleberry -- hypnotic visions - huckleberrylain.net -- hypnotic visions - huckleberrylain.net -- ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
