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Re: [Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 68, Issue 1

2016-01-01 Thread Josh Drake

Oh and that great sax shower scene in long good Friday after Bob Hoskins
kills his partner with a broken glass

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>4. Re: Shower scenes... (Gene Youngblood)
>5. Re: Shower scenes... (Claire Henry, Curatorial)
>6. Re: Shower scenes... (William Wees, Dr.)
>7. Re: Shower scenes... (Christopher Ball)
>8. Re: Shower scenes... (Gene Youngblood)
>9. Re: Shower scenes... (Herb Shellenberger)
>   10. Re: Shower scenes... (Kenneth Linehan)
>   11. Re: Shower scenes... (Adeena Mey)
>   12. Re: Shower scenes... (Edward Choi)
>   13. Re: Shower scenes... (Nathaniel Draper)
>   14. Re: Shower scenes... (franco base)
>   15. Re: Shower scenes... (JAMES SANSING)
>   16. Re: Shower scenes... (Christian Gosvig Olesen)
>   17. Re: Shower scenes... (Kenneth Linehan)
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> > Scott MacDonald's revelatory,
> > BINGHAMTON BABYLON: VOICES FROM THE CINEMA DEPARTMENT 1967-1977
> >
> > PAPER AIRPLANES: The Collections of Harry Smith Catalogue Raisonne Vol I
> >
> > STRING FIGURES: The Collections of Harry Smith Catalogue Raisonne , Vol.
> > II
> >
> > Editors- John Klacsmann
> >Andrew Lampert
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> > CHROMATIC ALGORITHMS: SYNTHETIC COLOR, COMPUTER ART, and AESTHETICS AFTER
> > CODE
> >
> > - Carolyn L. Kane
> > ("Life is won by wresting colors from the past."
> > -Gilles Deleuze )
> >
> > FANTASIA OF COLOR IN EARLY CINEMA
> > - Tom Gunning et al.
> >
> > THE EXPERIENCE MACHINE: STAN VANDERBEEK'S MOVIE-DROME
> > AND

Re: [Frameworks] Shower scenes...

2016-01-01 Thread Herb Shellenberger

There's a film I haven't been able to locate by Laird Sutton called James,
apparently a five minute film of James Broughton being lovingly bathed.

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:

> I am surprised that of mainstream films nobdy has mentioned either Psycho
> or M*A*S*H.
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Re: [Frameworks] Shower scenes...

2016-01-01 Thread bea42

Après le bal (Georges Méliès, 1897)
Nana (Dan Wolman, 1983)

2016-01-01 14:39 GMT+01:00 Pip Chodorov :

> "Window Water Baby Moving" seems seminal...
>
>
> At 15:14 -0500 31/12/15, Daniel Hess wrote:
>
>> collect as many shower/bath scenes as possible. How many films with a
>> shower/bath scene can you
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Re: [Frameworks] Shower scenes...

2016-01-01 Thread John Sundholm

Valie export: mann & frau & animal

1 jan. 2016 kl. 16:56 skrev John MacKay 
>:

Tarkovsky's Mirror.

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 9:27 AM, > wrote:
Apr?s le bal (Georges M?li?s, 1897)
Nana (Dan Wolman, 1983)

2016-01-01 14:39 GMT+01:00 Pip Chodorov 
>:
"Window Water Baby Moving" seems seminal...

At 15:14 -0500 31/12/15, Daniel Hess wrote:
collect as many shower/bath scenes as possible. How many films with a 
shower/bath scene can you
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Re: [Frameworks] Shower scenes...

2016-01-01 Thread Scott Dorsey

I am surprised that of mainstream films nobdy has mentioned either Psycho
or M*A*S*H.
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Re: [Frameworks] Shower scenes...

2016-01-01 Thread John MacKay

Tarkovsky's Mirror.

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 9:27 AM,  wrote:

> Après le bal (Georges Méliès, 1897)
> Nana (Dan Wolman, 1983)
>
> 2016-01-01 14:39 GMT+01:00 Pip Chodorov :
>
>> "Window Water Baby Moving" seems seminal...
>>
>>
>> At 15:14 -0500 31/12/15, Daniel Hess wrote:
>>
>>> collect as many shower/bath scenes as possible. How many films with a
>>> shower/bath scene can you
>>>
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Re: [Frameworks] shower scenes

2016-01-01 Thread Josh Drake

also the opening of Depalma's Carrie and Antichrist by Lars Von Trier

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>1. Noteworthy Publications (Ethan Berry)
>2. Re: Noteworthy Publications (Ethan Berry)
>3. Shower scenes... (Daniel Hess)
>4. Re: Shower scenes... (Gene Youngblood)
>5. Re: Shower scenes... (Claire Henry, Curatorial)
>6. Re: Shower scenes... (William Wees, Dr.)
>7. Re: Shower scenes... (Christopher Ball)
>8. Re: Shower scenes... (Gene Youngblood)
>9. Re: Shower scenes... (Herb Shellenberger)
>   10. Re: Shower scenes... (Kenneth Linehan)
>   11. Re: Shower scenes... (Adeena Mey)
>   12. Re: Shower scenes... (Edward Choi)
>   13. Re: Shower scenes... (Nathaniel Draper)
>   14. Re: Shower scenes... (franco base)
>   15. Re: Shower scenes... (JAMES SANSING)
>   16. Re: Shower scenes... (Christian Gosvig Olesen)
>   17. Re: Shower scenes... (Kenneth Linehan)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 09:25:29 -0500
> From: Ethan Berry 
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> >2. Re: Noteworthy Publications This Year? (Marcin Gizycki)
> >3. Kodak 7207 short ends for sale (Jesse Andrewartha)
> >4. Re: Noteworthy Publications This Year? (Chuck Kleinhans)
> >5. Fwd:  Noteworthy Publications This Year? (Scott Hammen)
> >6. Re: Kodak 7207 short ends for sale (Ben Gwilliam)
> >7. 16mm Vision3 250D... All sold! (Jesse Andrewartha)
> >8. Re: Fwd:  Noteworthy Publications This Year? (Albert Alcoz)
> >
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Adam Hyman 
> > To: "Experimental Film Discussion List "
> <
> > frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Cc:
> > Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 08:59:14 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Noteworthy Publications This Year?
> > Alternative Projections: Experimental Film in Los Angeles, 1945-1980
> > Edited by David E. James & Adam Hyman
> >
> > L.A. Rebellion: Creating a New Black Cinema
> > Edited by Allyson Nadia Field, Jan-Christopher-Horak, and Jacqueline
> > Najuma Stewart
> >
> > Also, the last Millennium Film Journal focused on new books.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > From: David Baker 
> > Reply-To: "Experimental Film Discussion List <
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> > Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 21:15:01 -0500
> > To: "Experimental Film Discussion List "
> <
> > frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Noteworthy Publications This Year?
> >
> > Scott MacDonald's revelatory,
> > BINGHAMTON BABYLON: VOICES FROM THE CINEMA DEPARTMENT 1967-1977
> >
> > PAPER AIRPLANES: The Collections of Harry Smith Catalogue Raisonne Vol I
> >
> > STRING FIGURES: The Collections of Harry Smith Catalogue Raisonne , Vol.
> > II
> >
> > Editors- John Klacsmann
> >Andrew Lampert
> >
> > CHROMATIC ALGORITHMS: SYNTHETIC COLOR, COMPUTER ART, and AESTHETICS AFTER
> > CODE
> >
> > - Carolyn L. Kane
> > ("Life is won by wresting colors from the past."
> > -Gilles Deleuze )
> >
> > FANTASIA OF COLOR IN EARLY CINEMA
> > - Tom Gunning et al.
> >
> > THE EXPERIENCE MACHINE: STAN VANDERBEEK'S MOVIE-DROME
> > AND EXPANDED CINEMA
> > -Gloria Sutton
> >
> >

Re: [Frameworks] Shower scenes...

2016-01-01 Thread Pip Chodorov


"Window Water Baby Moving" seems seminal...


At 15:14 -0500 31/12/15, Daniel Hess wrote:
collect as many shower/bath scenes as possible. How many films with 
a shower/bath scene can you

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Re: [Frameworks] Shower scenes...

2016-01-01 Thread Pip Chodorov


Hi John,
I thought for sure you would mention Gunvor Nelson's "Moons Pool"
But now that I mention it, I remember Robert Nelson made a really 
funny bath film using the sound of his feet under water but I can't 
find the title...

- Pip


At 15:58 + 1/01/16, John Sundholm wrote:


Valie export: mann & frau & animal



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Re: [Frameworks] Shower scenes...

2016-01-01 Thread Gene Youngblood

Well, if swimming pools qualify then what about Chick Strand’s “Kristallnacht”?


> On Jan 1, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Pip Chodorov  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> I thought for sure you would mention Gunvor Nelson's "Moons Pool"
> But now that I mention it, I remember Robert Nelson made a really funny bath 
> film using the sound of his feet under water but I can't find the title...
> - Pip
> 
> 
> At 15:58 + 1/01/16, John Sundholm wrote:
>> 
>> Valie export: mann & frau & animal
>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Shower scenes...

2016-01-01 Thread Pip Chodorov

Yes Moons Pool is primarily about a swimming pool but there is a 
bathtub scene first!



At 9:50 -0700 1/01/16, Gene Youngblood wrote:
Well, if swimming pools qualify then what about Chick Strand's 
"Kristallnacht"?



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Re: [Frameworks] Shower scenes...

2016-01-01 Thread Tim Halloran

The reference to 'Paranoid Park' reminded me of the short but very important 
shower scene in Van Sant's 'Elephant.'

Tim

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> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Kenneth Linehan  
> wrote:
> 
> There is a shower scene in Paranoid Park by Gus Van Sant, with some really 
> excellent sound work by Hildegarde Westerkamp
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Daniel Hess  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all, 
>> 
>> I need to call on the great well of obsessive cinema knowledge that is 
>> Frameworks. I am on a mission to collect as many shower/bath scenes as 
>> possible. How many films with a shower/bath scene can you recall? Don't 
>> forget prison showers, bathhouse showers (I will also allow sauna scenes), 
>> someone cleaning a shower, dog showers...
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Daniel
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Re: [Frameworks] Shower scenes...

2016-01-01 Thread Albert Alcoz


Deep End (1970) Jerzy Skolimowski 

El Viernes 1 de enero de 2016 18:16, Tim Halloran  
escribió:
 

 The reference to 'Paranoid Park' reminded me of the short but very important 
shower scene in Van Sant's 'Elephant.'

Tim

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Kenneth Linehan  
> wrote:
> 
> There is a shower scene in Paranoid Park by Gus Van Sant, with some really 
> excellent sound work by Hildegarde Westerkamp
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Daniel Hess  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all, 
>> 
>> I need to call on the great well of obsessive cinema knowledge that is 
>> Frameworks. I am on a mission to collect as many shower/bath scenes as 
>> possible. How many films with a shower/bath scene can you recall? Don't 
>> forget prison showers, bathhouse showers (I will also allow sauna scenes), 
>> someone cleaning a shower, dog showers...
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Daniel
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