Re: [Frameworks] walking

[C Keefer]

Hi Scott,
Oskar Fischinger, Walking from Munich to Berlin
https://vimeo.com/54587466

Best regards,
Cindy Keefer
Center for Visual Music
Cvmaccess at gmail.com
www.centerforvisualmusic.org

www.centerforvisualmusic.org/Fischinger


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> *Hey Frameworkers,*
>
> *A colleague is interested in films in which walking is a central formal
> thread.*
>
> *Do any of you have suggestions? *
>
> *Please contact me separately.*
>
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[Frameworks] Channels

[Bernard Roddy]

Friends, I got out and saw some work. It feels like it's been a very long
time. Mabe and Nixon programmed a show for the Block this evening, part of
their Channels quarterly series, this time under the auspices of
Northwestern's media curator, Metzger.

Child's Surface Noise was like watching Eisenstein - both for the kinds of
images used and for the way in which they are used. It's a meaning derived
from shots taken from disparate sources. Only there is this addition of
sound, handled in the much the same way. I mean sound is also gathered and
inserted like shots. The film feels like a series of pairings and
juxtapositions, which can suddenly work for you but be over before you can
fix it in mind. As I watched the work that followed in the program and
thought back to the Child, it felt almost cynical. I mean, just listen to
it.

Anyway, after the Child film, there were three that I thought could have
just been the whole show, a profound and lasting experience. I have never
heard of Maïa Cybelle Carpenter or Chi Jang Yin. The two together, however,
I thought was brilliant. And so unwordy, so principled, mature and
uncompromising. Yes, someone does show the work you really want to make. It
is possible. Anyway, there followed a Geiser, the second senior American
artist, if I may call them that. Now Geiser is in a league of her own. It
calls for a new paragraph.

See, there is this competency or proficiency question. There is this
intensely beautiful work in the Carpenter, but it's of a different order.
Then you have Geiser . . almost a demonstration, not pedantic, but
virtuoso. But see that might give the impression that the work is just
about effects, and it's not. You can hear her think, and you can see it
take shape on screen, but really as an artistry like music.

I always expect a degree of clutzy when I'm watching the kind of film
Geiser has here. I like the simplicity of clutzy, authentic. But like I
said, I think Geiser is in her own league.

Bernie
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Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues

[Caryn Cline]

Hi Adam and everyone.

We have a somewhat narrow call for the Engauge Experimental Film
Festival—we only accept works that originate on film—and we are fortunate
to have a private funder, which is the only way to do what we do in the US,
as far as I know.

Best,

CC

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 5:34 PM Adam Hyman  wrote:

> That’s great!  How do you raise money for that?
>
> Best,
>
> Adam
>
> From: FrameWorks  on behalf of
> Jon Behrens 
> Reply-To: "Experimental Film Discussion List <
> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>" 
> Date: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 1:20 PM
> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List " <
> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues
>
> Engauge Experimental Film Festival has no entry fee . and if you get
> accepted you will receive $200 honorarium
> www.interbaycinemasociety.org
>
> Jon
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 1, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Dominic Angerame 
> wrote:
>
> PS.
>
> I once entered a festival that only accepted a certain amount of entries
> and cut off all entries sent after a specific deadline. This may be a way
> towards a solution. I would like to know how many films I am competing
> with. If a festival allows 2700 entries, such as Ann Arbor, I never would
> have submitted my work.
>
> I would have taken the $40 entry and bought lottery tickets were I stand a
> better chance of winning.
>
> D
>
> On May 1, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Dante Fresse  wrote:
>
> Film festival proliferation is a good thing for me, but focusing on the
> next time increase in my opinion isn’t the right thing to do. As a young
> filmmaker I find competitive process of selecting to be an opportunity for
> growth and scarcity in this industry and that is an excellent way to learn
> how to use opportunities where you can get a chance to talk to succeeding
> artists.
>
> What do y’all think about this?
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:11 PM Dominic Angerame <
> dominic.anger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Every film festival is telling me that they have received record number
>> of entries from hundreds to thousands. If entries are increasing should not
>> the scope and duration of the festivals increase to accommodate the record
>> numbers. Increased entries also mean increased income to the festivals.
>>
>> A question to the community
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Re: [Frameworks] Kodachrome

[Scott Dorsey]

> I gotta say, the more I learn about photographic chemistry, the more I am
> saddened that it has become such a rare, niche activity. 

It was once a field of very active research and development.  If you are
curious about B&W photography I strongly recommend getting a first edition
of C.E.Kenneth Mees' book _Theory of the Photographic Process_.  If you
are curious about color photography I recommend getting a third edition.
A lot of cool stuff was removed from later edition (like a huge amount of
information about gelatin physics) in order to fit the details about color.

Copies are out there and shouldn't be very expensive.  There are plenty of
other good books, but most of them will be found in the references in the
back of Mees.
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Re: [Frameworks] Narratives of Copyright Play

[Francisco Torres]

there is this book-
Cutting Across Media
Appropriation Art, Interventionist Collage, and Copyright Law

https://www.dukeupress.edu/cutting-across-media

2019-05-03 5:14 GMT-07:00, Seth Pimlott :
> Hi Bernie,
>
> You must read this: Erika Balsom’s ‘After Uniqueness: A History of Film and
> Video Art in Circulation’
> 
>
> Extremely relevant to discussions of intellectual property/copying
> technologies/copyright connected to artist moving image, and extremely good
> too :)
>
> I wrote a review
> 
> for Art Monthly in the UK when it was released that might give a sense of
> it.
>
> All best,
>
> Seth
>
> On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 02:50, Bernard Roddy  wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone:
>>
>> I'm teaching a course in a computer science program in which I devote a
>> week to intellectual property. The use of found footage became more
>> interesting as a result of looking for cases with which to raise ethical
>> debate and present new terms of analysis.
>>
>> In a slight departure from the expected narrative of the ethical dilemma
>> faced in employment circumstances by the computer programmer or data
>> analyst (security analysis seems to be the major to go wtih), I looking
>> at
>> a 2003 text from Artforum on the preservation of a film by Bruce Conner
>> (Crossroads, 1976). Has anyone seen this film?
>>
>> But also, are there other such sources that anyone can think of for this
>> kind of discussion? I am thinking of the whole matter of engaging a court
>> system but in terms that are sympathetic with moving image artistic
>> practice.
>>
>> Bernie
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Re: [Frameworks] Walking theme

[Kolberg, Sarah]

I suspect these are already on your radar, but Hollis Frampton Surface Tension, 
and to a lesser degree, Zorns Lemma.

 ~ sarah


From: FrameWorks  On Behalf Of Green, 
Ron Green
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 8:31 AM
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com; Nicolette Swift 
Subject: [Frameworks] Walking theme

Hi Scott,

Michael Snow's "walking woman" stuff, e.g. New York Eye and Ear Control

Frampton's cornfield film...

and

Nikki Swift's walking video projects:
https://www.nicolettecinemagraphics.com/videography/video-walkthroughs/

There must be others...

Best wishes,
Ron
Nicolettecinemagraphics - Video 
Walkthroughs
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Re: [Frameworks] Walking theme

[jimmyschaus1]

Luke Fowler & Lee Patterson 565685981->565615566

When La Monte Young wrote Composition “1960 #10” on a 3×5 filing card, he
wrote what might be the most readily citational musical score in the
history of Western music: “draw a straight line and follow it.” Filmmaker
Luke Fowler and sound artist Lee Patterson interpret the instruction by
this influential minimalist composer quite literally. Registering things
they meet on their way, they make a ’straight’ journey through Ghent.

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 2:50 PM PENNY MCCANN  wrote:

> And Joyce Weiland’s *Solidarity.*
>
> Penny McCann
>
>
> On May 3, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Scott MacDonald  wrote:
>
> *Hey Ron,*
>
> *And Snow's See You Later/Au Revoir, in a way.*
>
> *Didn't know about Nikki Swift--thanks for the heads-up!*
>
> *Best Regards,*
> *Scott*
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 8:31 AM Green, Ron Green  wrote:
>
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> Michael Snow's "walking woman" stuff, e.g. *New York Eye and Ear Control*
>>
>> Frampton's cornfield film...
>>
>> and
>>
>> Nikki Swift's walking video projects:
>> https://www.nicolettecinemagraphics.com/videography/video-walkthroughs/
>>
>> There must be others...
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Ron
>> Nicolettecinemagraphics - Video Walkthroughs
>> 
>> Video walkthroughs allow a buyer or patron to feel like they’ve seen a
>> location without leaving their house, saving you the time.
>> www.nicolettecinemagraphics.com
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Re: [Frameworks] Walking theme

[jimmyschaus1]

oh yeah, and Gus Van Sant's *Gerry*

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:20 PM jimmyschaus1  wrote:

> Luke Fowler & Lee Patterson 565685981->565615566
>
> When La Monte Young wrote Composition “1960 #10” on a 3×5 filing card, he
> wrote what might be the most readily citational musical score in the
> history of Western music: “draw a straight line and follow it.” Filmmaker
> Luke Fowler and sound artist Lee Patterson interpret the instruction by
> this influential minimalist composer quite literally. Registering things
> they meet on their way, they make a ’straight’ journey through Ghent.
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 2:50 PM PENNY MCCANN 
> wrote:
>
>> And Joyce Weiland’s *Solidarity.*
>>
>> Penny McCann
>>
>>
>> On May 3, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Scott MacDonald 
>> wrote:
>>
>> *Hey Ron,*
>>
>> *And Snow's See You Later/Au Revoir, in a way.*
>>
>> *Didn't know about Nikki Swift--thanks for the heads-up!*
>>
>> *Best Regards,*
>> *Scott*
>>
>> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 8:31 AM Green, Ron Green  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Scott,
>>>
>>> Michael Snow's "walking woman" stuff, e.g. *New York Eye and Ear
>>> Control*
>>>
>>> Frampton's cornfield film...
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> Nikki Swift's walking video projects:
>>> https://www.nicolettecinemagraphics.com/videography/video-walkthroughs/
>>>
>>> There must be others...
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Ron
>>> Nicolettecinemagraphics - Video Walkthroughs
>>> 
>>> Video walkthroughs allow a buyer or patron to feel like they’ve seen a
>>> location without leaving their house, saving you the time.
>>> www.nicolettecinemagraphics.com
>>>
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Re: [Frameworks] walking

[Chris Lynn]

Hello Scott,I just finished a film last year called Scenes from 10 Walks-You 
can view it here if you wishScenes from 10 walksAll the best,Chris
  
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Scenes from 10 walks
 Scenes from 10 walks is an audiovisual journey of walks that span over a year. 
Each walk was shot in a different...  |  |

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On Thursday, May 2, 2019 7:02 PM, Scott MacDonald  
wrote:
 

 Hey Frameworkers,
A colleague is interested in films in which walking is a central formal thread.
Do any of you have suggestions? 
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Re: [Frameworks] Walking theme

[PENNY MCCANN]

And Joyce Weiland’s Solidarity.

Penny McCann


> On May 3, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Scott MacDonald  wrote:
> 
> Hey Ron,
> 
> And Snow's See You Later/Au Revoir, in a way.
> 
> Didn't know about Nikki Swift--thanks for the heads-up!
> 
> Best Regards,
> Scott
> 
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 8:31 AM Green, Ron Green  > wrote:
> Hi Scott,
> 
> Michael Snow's "walking woman" stuff, e.g. New York Eye and Ear Control
> 
> Frampton's cornfield film...
> 
> and
> 
> Nikki Swift's walking video projects:
> https://www.nicolettecinemagraphics.com/videography/video-walkthroughs/ 
> 
> 
> There must be others...
> 
> Best wishes,
> Ron
> Nicolettecinemagraphics - Video Walkthroughs 
> 
> Video walkthroughs allow a buyer or patron to feel like they’ve seen a 
> location without leaving their house, saving you the time.
> www.nicolettecinemagraphics.com 
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Re: [Frameworks] Walking theme

[Scott MacDonald]

*Hey Ron,*

*And Snow's See You Later/Au Revoir, in a way.*

*Didn't know about Nikki Swift--thanks for the heads-up!*

*Best Regards,*
*Scott*

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 8:31 AM Green, Ron Green  wrote:

> Hi Scott,
>
> Michael Snow's "walking woman" stuff, e.g. *New York Eye and Ear Control*
>
> Frampton's cornfield film...
>
> and
>
> Nikki Swift's walking video projects:
> https://www.nicolettecinemagraphics.com/videography/video-walkthroughs/
>
> There must be others...
>
> Best wishes,
> Ron
> Nicolettecinemagraphics - Video Walkthroughs
> 
> Video walkthroughs allow a buyer or patron to feel like they’ve seen a
> location without leaving their house, saving you the time.
> www.nicolettecinemagraphics.com
>
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[Frameworks] Walking theme

[Green, Ron Green]

Hi Scott,

Michael Snow's "walking woman" stuff, e.g. New York Eye and Ear Control

Frampton's cornfield film...

and

Nikki Swift's walking video projects:
https://www.nicolettecinemagraphics.com/videography/video-walkthroughs/

There must be others...

Best wishes,
Ron
Nicolettecinemagraphics - Video 
Walkthroughs
Video walkthroughs allow a buyer or patron to feel like they’ve seen a location 
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Re: [Frameworks] Narratives of Copyright Play

[Seth Pimlott]

Hi Bernie,

You must read this: Erika Balsom’s ‘After Uniqueness: A History of Film and
Video Art in Circulation’


Extremely relevant to discussions of intellectual property/copying
technologies/copyright connected to artist moving image, and extremely good
too :)

I wrote a review 
for Art Monthly in the UK when it was released that might give a sense of
it.

All best,

Seth

On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 02:50, Bernard Roddy  wrote:

> Hey everyone:
>
> I'm teaching a course in a computer science program in which I devote a
> week to intellectual property. The use of found footage became more
> interesting as a result of looking for cases with which to raise ethical
> debate and present new terms of analysis.
>
> In a slight departure from the expected narrative of the ethical dilemma
> faced in employment circumstances by the computer programmer or data
> analyst (security analysis seems to be the major to go wtih), I looking at
> a 2003 text from Artforum on the preservation of a film by Bruce Conner
> (Crossroads, 1976). Has anyone seen this film?
>
> But also, are there other such sources that anyone can think of for this
> kind of discussion? I am thinking of the whole matter of engaging a court
> system but in terms that are sympathetic with moving image artistic
> practice.
>
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[Frameworks] walking

[Sonali Gulati]

Barefeet 

https://vimeo.com/84093936


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Re: [Frameworks] walking

[John Sundholm]

Seppo Renvall -..-

https://www.av-arkki.fi/en/works/_en/

/John




3 maj 2019 kl. 12:41 skrev Elena Duque 
mailto:elenadu...@gmail.com>>:

Hello

Walking, by Ryan Larkin
https://www.nfb.ca/film/walking/



El vie., 3 may. 2019 a las 9:02, Albert Alcoz 
(mailto:albertal...@gmail.com>>) escribió:
Walkabout (1971) Nicolas Roeg

This text by Hamish Fulton has some interesting film references:
https://frieze.com/article/life-film-hamish-fulton

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 7:32 AM Anderwald + Grond 
mailto:cont...@anderwald-grond.at>> wrote:
Oh, My Foot Hurts, 1990, and I’m Going, 1973,(https://vimeo.com/192276716), 
both by Józef Robakowski



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Hey Frameworkers,

A colleague is interested in films in which walking is a central formal thread.

Do any of you have suggestions?

Please contact me separately.

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Re: [Frameworks] walking

[Elena Duque]

Hello

Walking, by Ryan Larkin
https://www.nfb.ca/film/walking/



El vie., 3 may. 2019 a las 9:02, Albert Alcoz ()
escribió:

> *Walkabout *(1971) Nicolas Roeg
>
> This text by Hamish Fulton has some interesting film references:
> https://frieze.com/article/life-film-hamish-fulton
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 7:32 AM Anderwald + Grond <
> cont...@anderwald-grond.at> wrote:
>
>> Oh, My Foot Hurts, 1990, and I’m Going, 1973,(https://vimeo.com/192276716),
>> both by Józef Robakowski
>>
>>
>>
>> — — — —
>> Ruth Anderwald + Leonhard Grond
>>
>> http://www.anderwald-grond.at
>>
>>
>> *Until I clear this place be a part of me – mind, body and soul. If I
>> sway, sway with me.* Charles Blondin
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>> Am 03.05.2019 um 01:02 schrieb Scott MacDonald :
>>
>> *Hey Frameworkers,*
>>
>> *A colleague is interested in films in which walking is a central formal
>> thread.*
>>
>> *Do any of you have suggestions? *
>>
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[Frameworks] Thank you!

[Scott MacDonald]

*Frameworkers!*

*Thanks to all who have brought my attention to films focused on walking.*

*Much appreciated!*

*Scott*
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Re: [Frameworks] walking

[Albert Alcoz]

*Walkabout *(1971) Nicolas Roeg

This text by Hamish Fulton has some interesting film references:
https://frieze.com/article/life-film-hamish-fulton

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 7:32 AM Anderwald + Grond 
wrote:

> Oh, My Foot Hurts, 1990, and I’m Going, 1973,(https://vimeo.com/192276716),
> both by Józef Robakowski
>
>
>
> — — — —
> Ruth Anderwald + Leonhard Grond
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> http://www.anderwald-grond.at
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>
> *Until I clear this place be a part of me – mind, body and soul. If I
> sway, sway with me.* Charles Blondin
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> Am 03.05.2019 um 01:02 schrieb Scott MacDonald :
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> *Hey Frameworkers,*
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> *A colleague is interested in films in which walking is a central formal
> thread.*
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> *Do any of you have suggestions? *
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> *Please contact me separately.*
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