Re: [Frameworks] Documentaries-diaries-essays or video/film installations that play with truth or cinema theory

[Dave Tetzlaff]

Fake docs like 'No Lies' and 'Daughter Rite' don’t really question the concept 
of truth in any profound way. They are also genre specific to Cinema Verite. If 
anything, the problem with Daubghter Rite is that the gimmick of the fakery 
subverts the theme more than it deepens it. 

So you can stage sequences with the same shooting and editing codes used in 
verite. So what?

The famous short sequence on the bridge repeated three times in Letter from 
Siberia probably does more to "question the concept of 'truth in documentary’" 
than all the clever fakes and fauxs put together.

Bernie mentioned Nichols’ ‘Intro to Documentary’ as touching on the topic, but 
I think his “Blurred Boundaries” is probably more relevant, though as usual the 
prose is hardly user-friendly.

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Re: [Frameworks] Documentaries-diaries-essays or video/film installations that play with truth or cinema theory

[Bernard Roddy]

I remember considering Nichols' introduction to documentary and getting
only as far as the way he conceived the material. I think he draws
attention to the word "representation."

Once you have framed everything under an analysis of that term, I think
it's going to be hard to drop the camera or leave the cinema. And truth?
Shall we conceive of it as an accurate representation to begin with?

Bernie

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 9:50 AM Samirah Alkassim  wrote:

> There are a plethora of doc films that engage strategies that do this, but
> the writings of Bill Nichols and Stella Bruzzi on performative doc are
> really important for this discussion.
>
> Check out New Documentary (latest edition) by Stella Bruzzi.
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 6:13 PM Morgan Hoyle-Combs 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all.
>>
>> I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout
>> for films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So
>> far, I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David
>> Hotlzman's Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley.
>> And yes, I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)
>>
>> I've also been getting into dissecting film and theater down to, for lack
>> of better terms, compound elements. I've been looking into the works of
>> Bazin, Kracauer and Metz and how they have explored the concept of
>> spectatorship and illusion within the realm of photography, film and
>> sometimes theater.
>>
>> So anything that would focus on deconstructing truth or incorperate
>> cinema theory. In addition to diaries and essays, I'd also be open to
>> film/video installations/performances that share the same focus.
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] Documentaries-diaries-essays or video/film installations that play with truth or cinema theory

[FrameWorks Admin]

O? Zoo! (The Making of a Fiction Film)  by Philip Hoffman

  - Pip Chodorov

>>> On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Morgan Hoyle-Combs >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all.
>>> 
>>> I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout for 
>>> films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So 
>>> far, I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David 
>>> Hotlzman's Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley. 
>>> And yes, I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)

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Re: [Frameworks] Documentaries-diaries-essays or video/film installations that play with truth or cinema theory

[Gail Silva]

1981 - Peter Adair - “Some of These Stories Are True”

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Adam Hyman  wrote:
> 
> Check out the book F Is for Phony: Fake Documentary and Truth’s Undoing, ed. 
> By Alex Juhasz and Jesse Lerner
> https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/f-is-for-phony
> And then all the films discussed in there…
> We did a screening once in conjunction with it that included No Lies, Land 
> Without Bread, and Marlon Fuentes’ Bontoc Eulogy (1995).
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Adam Hyman
> Los Angeles Filmforum
> 
> 
> On 6/6/19, 11:02 PM, "FrameWorks on behalf of Tim Halloran" 
>  
> wrote:
> 
> ...No Lies, (1973); Mitchell Block.
> 
> Most documentaries “play with truth,” in some manner.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Morgan Hoyle-Combs  wrote:
> Hello all.
> I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout for 
> films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So far, 
> I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David Hotlzman's 
> Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley. And yes, 
> I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)
> I've also been getting into dissecting film and theater down to, for lack of 
> better terms, compound elements. I've been looking into the works of Bazin, 
> Kracauer and Metz and how they have explored the concept of spectatorship and 
> illusion within the realm of photography, film and sometimes theater.
> So anything that would focus on deconstructing truth or incorperate cinema 
> theory. In addition to diaries and essays, I'd also be open to film/video 
> installations/performances that share the same focus.
> M
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[Frameworks] Antimatter Festival 2019: Final Deadline Approaching

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Frameworkers, 
 
The final submission deadline for the 22nd Antimatter [Media Art] festival is 
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Re: [Frameworks] Documentaries-diaries-essays or video/film installations that play with truth or cinema theory

[Adam Hyman]

Check out the book F Is for Phony: Fake Documentary and Truth¹s Undoing, ed.
By Alex Juhasz and Jesse Lerner
https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/f-is-for-phony
And then all the films discussed in thereŠ
We did a screening once in conjunction with it that included No Lies, Land
Without Bread, and Marlon Fuentes¹ Bontoc Eulogy (1995).

Best regards,

Adam Hyman
Los Angeles Filmforum


On 6/6/19, 11:02 PM, "FrameWorks on behalf of Tim Halloran"

wrote:

> ...No Lies, (1973); Mitchell Block.
> 
> Most documentaries ³play with truth,² in some manner.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>  On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Morgan Hoyle-Combs 
>> wrote:
>>  
>>  Hello all.
>>  
>>  I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout for
>> films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So far,
>> I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David Hotlzman's
>> Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley. And yes,
>> I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)
>>  
>>  I've also been getting into dissecting film and theater down to, for lack of
>> better terms, compound elements. I've been looking into the works of Bazin,
>> Kracauer and Metz and how they have explored the concept of spectatorship and
>> illusion within the realm of photography, film and sometimes theater.
>>  
>>  So anything that would focus on deconstructing truth or incorperate cinema
>> theory. In addition to diaries and essays, I'd also be open to film/video
>> installations/performances that share the same focus.
>>  
>>  M
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Re: [Frameworks] Documentaries-diaries-essays or video/film installations that play with truth or cinema theory

[Santiago Fernandez]

“Agarrando Pueblo” by Ospina & Mayolo. 

"My head is made of the same matter of the sun"

> On Jun 7, 2019, at 1:02 AM, Tim Halloran  wrote:
> 
> ...No Lies, (1973); Mitchell Block.
> 
> Most documentaries “play with truth,” in some manner.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Morgan Hoyle-Combs  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all.
>> 
>> I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout for 
>> films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So far, 
>> I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David Hotlzman's 
>> Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley. And yes, 
>> I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)
>> 
>> I've also been getting into dissecting film and theater down to, for lack of 
>> better terms, compound elements. I've been looking into the works of Bazin, 
>> Kracauer and Metz and how they have explored the concept of spectatorship 
>> and illusion within the realm of photography, film and sometimes theater. 
>> 
>> So anything that would focus on deconstructing truth or incorperate cinema 
>> theory. In addition to diaries and essays, I'd also be open to film/video 
>> installations/performances that share the same focus. 
>> 
>> M
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Re: [Frameworks] Documentaries-diaries-essays or video/film installations that play with truth or cinema theory

[kate lain]

Trinh T. Minh-ha’s *Surname Viet Given Name Nam*
and it's been ages since I saw it, but I recall Michelle Citron's *Daughter
Rite* as fitting with what you're looking at

Kate


On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 3:13 PM Morgan Hoyle-Combs 
wrote:

> Hello all.
>
> I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout
> for films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So
> far, I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David
> Hotlzman's Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley.
> And yes, I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)
>
> I've also been getting into dissecting film and theater down to, for lack
> of better terms, compound elements. I've been looking into the works of
> Bazin, Kracauer and Metz and how they have explored the concept of
> spectatorship and illusion within the realm of photography, film and
> sometimes theater.
>
> So anything that would focus on deconstructing truth or incorperate cinema
> theory. In addition to diaries and essays, I'd also be open to film/video
> installations/performances that share the same focus.
>
> M
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Re: [Frameworks] Documentaries-diaries-essays or video/film installations that play with truth or cinema theory

[Samirah Alkassim]

There are a plethora of doc films that engage strategies that do this, but
the writings of Bill Nichols and Stella Bruzzi on performative doc are
really important for this discussion.

Check out New Documentary (latest edition) by Stella Bruzzi.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 6:13 PM Morgan Hoyle-Combs 
wrote:

> Hello all.
>
> I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout
> for films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So
> far, I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David
> Hotlzman's Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley.
> And yes, I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)
>
> I've also been getting into dissecting film and theater down to, for lack
> of better terms, compound elements. I've been looking into the works of
> Bazin, Kracauer and Metz and how they have explored the concept of
> spectatorship and illusion within the realm of photography, film and
> sometimes theater.
>
> So anything that would focus on deconstructing truth or incorperate cinema
> theory. In addition to diaries and essays, I'd also be open to film/video
> installations/performances that share the same focus.
>
> M
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Re: [Frameworks] Documentaries-diaries-essays or video/film installations that play with truth or cinema theory

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> Am 07.06.2019 um 08:02 schrieb Tim Halloran :
> 
> ...No Lies, (1973); Mitchell Block.
> 
> Most documentaries “play with truth,” in some manner.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Morgan Hoyle-Combs  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all.
>> 
>> I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout for 
>> films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So far, 
>> I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David Hotlzman's 
>> Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley. And yes, 
>> I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)
>> 
>> I've also been getting into dissecting film and theater down to, for lack of 
>> better terms, compound elements. I've been looking into the works of Bazin, 
>> Kracauer and Metz and how they have explored the concept of spectatorship 
>> and illusion within the realm of photography, film and sometimes theater. 
>> 
>> So anything that would focus on deconstructing truth or incorperate cinema 
>> theory. In addition to diaries and essays, I'd also be open to film/video 
>> installations/performances that share the same focus. 
>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Documentaries-diaries-essays or video/film installations that play with truth or cinema theory

[Tim Halloran]

...No Lies, (1973); Mitchell Block.

Most documentaries “play with truth,” in some manner.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Morgan Hoyle-Combs  wrote:
> 
> Hello all.
> 
> I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout for 
> films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So far, 
> I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David Hotlzman's 
> Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley. And yes, 
> I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)
> 
> I've also been getting into dissecting film and theater down to, for lack of 
> better terms, compound elements. I've been looking into the works of Bazin, 
> Kracauer and Metz and how they have explored the concept of spectatorship and 
> illusion within the realm of photography, film and sometimes theater. 
> 
> So anything that would focus on deconstructing truth or incorperate cinema 
> theory. In addition to diaries and essays, I'd also be open to film/video 
> installations/performances that share the same focus. 
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