[Frameworks] Tonight in Brooklyn

[Evan Greene]

For those in the New York City area

A rare screening of Dave Gearey’s Chet’s Garage, Triple Super 8
projections, Regular 8 diary films from the 1930’s, and more.



deranged Presents

The Soft Opening of

JEAN GENET'S ETERNAL SMiLE (1)

on May First MAY DAY

Light and Sound and Films and Videos and Performances and Paintings and
Sculptures and Collages and Books and Invisible Buildings and FOOD and
Liquids and Moving Images of All Kinds by:

Linnea Nugent
Bradley Eros
Rob Orlowski
Evelyn Emile
DevOn Narine-Singh
Patti Smith
Dave Gearey
Sahar Sepahdari-Dalai
Alex Faoro
Emily Apter
Lumia
and Many more...

We Tryna surprise ourselves with THE mystery

Starts at 8pm/Show O CLock

Suggested Donation of $10
if $10 is out of your budget we offer a sliding scale of $5-10
with the difference being made up with on the spot art for our collection
(can include a poem, song, drawing, cartoon, dance, joke,etc.) if $5 is out
of your budget none one will be turned away due to lack of funds (we've
been there)

Shout Out to all those who have and are still letting their souls fly deep
into the valley of our minds

Barbara Rubin, Jonas Mekas, Carolee Schneemann, Barbara Hammer, Margie
Keller, Phil Solomon, Jonathan Schwartz, Rob Todd, and all those who have
helped us to get HERE

AT THAT TIME IS RIGHT NOW

WE BRINGING OUR SAND TO THE BEACH
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[Frameworks] Heather McAdams

[Evan Greene]

Hi,

I’m trying to get in touch with Heather McAdams. Does anyone have her email?

Please contact me off list.

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[Frameworks] P. Adams Sitney Contact

[Evan Greene]

Hi,

I’m trying to get in touch with P. Adams Sitney. Does anyone have his email?

Please contact me off list.

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Re: [Frameworks] GERMAINE DULAC'S WRITINGS ON CINEMA AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH

[Evan Greene]

Could you make the book available as a pdf to buy directly from you?

On Thursday, December 20, 2018,  wrote:

> Dear Adam,
>
> we are sorry, but we don't have the funding to publish this book on paper.
>
> That's why we made the choice to publish it on e-book, and as 80 % of our
> books sales are made through Amazon, we did choice Kindle.
>
> The Kindle application is free. If you have a device which permits you to
> post to Frameworks, you can purchase and read the book.
>
> I understand people who don't wish to patronize Amazon, but actually we
> have no choice.
>
> Yours,
>
>  Christian Lebrat
> PARIS EXPERIMENTAL
> http://www.paris-experimental.asso.fr
>
>
>
>  Message d'origine 
> De : "Adam Hyman" 
> À : "Experimental Film Discussion List " <
> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Objet : Re: [Frameworks] GERMAINE DULAC'S WRITINGS ON CINEMA AVAILABLE IN
> ENGLISH
> Date : 19/12/2018 21:22:16 CET
>
> What is one supposed to do if you don’t have Kindle or do’t wish to
> patronize Amazon?
>
> Best regards
>
> Adam Hyman
> Los Angeles Filmforum
>
> From: FrameWorks  on behalf of
> Christian Leblat 
> Reply-To: "Experimental Film Discussion List  com>" 
> Date: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 1:50 AM
> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List " <
> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: [Frameworks] GERMAINE DULAC'S WRITINGS ON CINEMA AVAILABLE IN
> ENGLISH
>
> Hello,
> we are pleased to announce:
>
> *WRITINGS ON CINEMA (1919-1937)  BY GERMAINE DULAC*E-BOOK EDITION NOW
> AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH !Ed., with a new preface by PROSPER HILLAIRET
> Foreword by TAMI M. WILLIAMS
> English translation by SCOTT HAMMEN These seminal texts by pioneering
> filmmaker and feminist Germaine Dulac will be of great interest to film
> scholars and cinephiles alike.*Maryann De Julio*, Professor of
> French, Department of Modern and Classical Language Studies, Kent State
> University. Paris Expérimental has done us all a great favor by updating,
> translating, and putting everything on e-book so that we all may see the
> visionary brilliance of this pioneering feminist filmmaker.*Sandy
> Flitterman-Lewis*, Associate Professor of English and Comparative
> Literature, Rutgers University, author of *To Desire Differently:
> Feminism and The French Cinema.* Germaine Dulac is among the most
> important figures of French silent cinema, even world cinema tout
> court. Her writings, made available in English for the first time in an
> excellent translation by Scott Hammen, are simply a must-have for any
> scholar or lover of cinema as well as for scholars of gender and 
> sexuality*Christophe
> Wall-Romana*, Associate professor, University of Minnesota.
>
> *Price: $11,34*
> *Buy it on Kindle Amazon:*
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LFJHT6C/ref=sr_1_2?s=books;
> ie=UTF8=1545080083=1-2=writings+on+cinema+dulac
>
> Yours,
>
> Christian Lebrat
> PARIS EXPERIMENTAL
> http://www.paris-experimental.asso.fr
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Re: [Frameworks] silent work

[Evan Greene]

Most of the digital things I make are silent. Here’s one that is public:

https://vimeo.com/256868147

I also have a ton more that are private and could send you the links if
you’re interested.

On Wednesday, May 2, 2018, Alan Sondheim  wrote:

>
> I've also made silent video, including some recent works fwiw.
>
> On Wed, 2 May 2018, JB Mabe wrote:
>
> Two former Chicagoans make pretty much 100% silent video:
>> Jake Barningham
>> &
>> Kyle Canterbury
>>
>> And here's some others who have made some silent video, but silent
>> video isn't the bulk of their work:
>> Anna Kipervaser
>> Simon Payne
>> Mary Billyou
>> Christine Lucy Latimer
>>
>> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Andy Ditzler 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm putting together a monitor-based exhibition of moving image work for
>>> a
>>> public space, with one of the requirements being that the works are shown
>>> silent due to the nature of the space. Plenty of archival and artists'
>>> film
>>> work fits this. But in the course of preparing this exhibition, a more
>>> general question has arisen: Who is making silent work now? Or more to
>>> the
>>> point, are there artists who make video pieces that are silent? I'm
>>> thinking
>>> of videos that might draw on the legacy of silent/non-soundtrack film
>>> work
>>> by Deren, Menken, Brakhage, Dorsky et al, but it seems difficult to find
>>> any
>>> moving image work without sound that doesn't originate somehow on film.
>>>
>>> I know Frameworks is devoted to work on film and not video, but perhaps
>>> some
>>> on this list can help. Thanks for any leads.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Andy Ditzler
>>> Founder and curator, Film Love: www.filmlove.org
>>> Co-founder, John Q collective: www.johnq.org
>>>
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Re: [Frameworks] Saul Levine & MassArt: resources

[Evan Greene]

I have talked with Saul about the situation as it’s unfolded the past few
days and months. It’s too complicated to explain in full here and not
really the forum for it but all the stories that have been reported so far
haven’t been the full truth. The Globe article being the furthest from it
and an example of lazy journalism where the one woman quoted from Massart
had personal axe to grind and paints an unfair picture of him and the
situation. Saul is 74 and regardless of the events that did occur was gonna
retire in the next few years anyway but chose to leave at the end semester.
How any competent film teacher could think showing Notes After Long Silence
to a class of senior film students be considered sexual harassment is
honestly ridiculous. If you really want to support Saul tho watch his
films. Show them. Rent them. Talk about them. Most of his films are
available for free on his Vimeo page and their in distribution at Canyon
Cinema, Filmmakers Coop, Lux, and Lightcone. Also for those in the New
England area come to the final Massart Film society screenings and hear him
publicly share his cinematic wisdom. There’s a great line up this month:

April 4th - Jennifer Saparzadeh
April 11th - Bruce Posner
April 18th - To Be Announced
April 25th - Adam Paradis

Also check out the one and only book written about Saul by Marjorie Keller:

http://saullevine.com/section/439716-THE-BOOK-OF-SAUL.html



On Monday, April 2, 2018, Scott MacDonald  wrote:

> *If Notes After Long Silence needs a warning, it's certainly not because
> of sexual content. *
>
> *Big Stick is rather stroboscopic--and so I could imagine a warning about
> visually-instigated epilepsy. *
>
> *But these are just aggressive, in-your-face, films, not unusual for the
> time when they were made. *
>
> *Being made uncomfortable by a film is not being harmed.*
>
> *Scott*
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:42 PM, John Muse  wrote:
>
>> Hi, Scott.  Cryptic!  I’m sure the situation is more complicated than we
>> know, and am here only sharing information as I find it.  The only counter
>> narrative I’ve discovered so far is the one published in the Boston Globe:
>>
>> > Kim Keown, a former MassArt student who said she first saw the film
>> years ago with no warning about its graphic content, said cautionary notice
>> is the critical issue.
>> >
>> > “Saul has bullied and abused other faculty and staff at MassArt for
>> years,” said Keown, who now works as a studio manager in the school’s film
>> area. “I have nothing against the film or this kind of artwork being made
>> or shown, but with [no] warning [it] can make one uncomfortable and unsafe.
>> I was his student; and I did not speak out. If I had, back then, I would
>> have been ridiculed.”
>>
>>
>> See https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/03/31/massart-profess
>> or-says-school-ousted-him-after-student-complaints/rY0bK
>> t12T1DrhJZ8ocYKJP/story.html
>>
>> I see two issues that are entangled: 1., Title IX and due process, which
>> is worthy of serious exploration, and according to Saul’s report is at
>> issue here.  And 2. changing standards for “good” vs. “bad” provocation,
>> which you gloss with "things that seemed passionate and committed to one
>> generation now seeming outrageous to another.”
>>
>> I’m equally interested in how both matters play out in this case.  But my
>> emotions are all on Saul’s side.  Admittedly, I’m using the latter to
>> understand the former.  For now, that seems ok, but I’ll certainly try to
>> be cautious until I learn more.
>>
>> j
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 10:01 PM, Scott MacDonald 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > PS John,
>> >
>> > I'm hearing (and of course this would have to be the case) that the
>> situation with Saul and MassArt is more complicated than I'd originally
>> understood--and I suspect that there's an element here of things that
>> seemed passionate and committed to one generation now seeming outrageous to
>> another.
>> >
>> > Like, I expect, most everyone who teaches film these days, this feels
>> like a strange and uncomfortable time (trigger warnings, etc.). It's easy
>> for anyone to jump to conclusions.
>> >
>> > I don't know anything about Saul's resources, but hopefully retirement
>> will be good to him, even if it's been reached in a painful and stressful
>> way.
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:42 PM, John Muse  wrote:
>> > Surprised that I haven’t read anything here on the recent news that
>> Saul Levine "was pushed out of the Massachusetts College of Art and Design
>> after administrators accused him of 'harming students' by showing his film
>> Notes After Long Silence, 1989, to his senior thesis class.”
>> >
>> > Here are a few resources:
>> >
>> > Saul’s original post detailing his decision to “[retire] from MassArt,”
>> as he says, and his reasons: https://www.facebook.com/story
>> .php?story_fbid=10215932754649479=1165322620
>> >
>> > The 

[Frameworks] Pelle Lowe

[Evan Greene]

Hi,

Does anyone have any information/access to the films of Pelle Lowe? I run
an aboveground screening space in Boston and would love to show some of her
work.

Thanks
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Re: [Frameworks] NYC Studio sale: film, projectors, accessories, etc.

[Evan Greene]

Hi mike,

I’m interested in coming by this weekend if you’ll be around? I’m coming
down from Boston and leaving Sunday night.

Thanks,

Evan

On Thursday, January 25, 2018, Michael Hernandez-Stern 
wrote:

> I've got to pare down my studio to make room for new projects.
>
> Tire kickers welcome!  'Just browsing' totally ok!  Bad trades
> encouraged!  Low Ballers forced to splice loops, though.
>
> I've got the next two weeks to start moving things around, so if you're in
> NYC and want to peruse my work hovel, come on down.  I'll ship film outta
> town, but much prefer to do it in person, as I can stuff your pockets with
> brown 16mm leader and feel like I'm making a dent in the pile.  Also
> pricing everything would just take too long and I'm not Type A.
>
> I've got the following for sale:
>
> EQUIP:
> Auricon cm-71 with battery dummy installed (plugs into wall).
> Eiki SSL and SL projectors
> Save me from all these rewinds
> odds and ends arri and bolex accessories
> Reels (plastic, metal, splits) to your hearts content
> MAYBE a steenbeck 6 plate with digital counter?  Release me from my 300
> pound prison.
> Appleboxes and production garbage galore
> Boxes of bulbs.
>
> FILM:
> 2253 ekta 450ft 7 boxes of 5 rolls each (35 rolls total)
> 7239 EKTA 400' 2 rolls
> 7274 VISION 200t 400' 3 rolls
> 7277 VISION 500t 400' 2 rolls
> 7293 EXR 200T 400' 4 rolls
> 7297 400' 1 roll
> 7298 EXR 500t 400' 1 roll
> 7363 HICON 400' 1 roll
> 7620 VISION2 500t 400' 3 rolls
> 7266 TRI-X 100' 1 box
> 7276 PLUS X 100' 1 box
>
> FANCY:
> Optar PL mount t1.3 illumina prime s16 set (9, 12, 16, 25)
> Optex PL to PL 2x s16 extender
> Elite 7mm t1.3 s16 ultrawide prime
> an old eclair ACL t shirt that's mostly a rag
>
> reach me either at the office (844-shoot-16) and leave a message or email
> me directly to set up a time to see equipment.  Very small but guaranteed
> portion of proceeds to go towards an open source optical printer project,
> as I can't keep my k104 working anyways.
>
> -mike
>
>
>
> --
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Re: [Frameworks] Asking for a friend

[Evan Greene]

Fred,

While I agree is a lot more complicated of a situation. I was writing out a 
whole long response talking about Gauguin, Picasso, and other toxic male 
artists among other things when I decided to revisit your website and noticed a 
few things:

1) your list of what you consider the greatest films of all time include no 
female filmmakers. 

2) your list of what you consider the greatest filmmakers of all time is almost 
entirely male. 

3) almost all of your writing on film you have linked on your site is about 
male filmmakers. 

Honestly I find this kind of weird too considering you’ve written so much on 
Brakhage and three of the most influential filmmakers on him we’re all women. 
Deren, Menken, Schneemann. All of whom are notably absent from your lists. 

While I somewhat understand your reasoning not to name names it seems that it 
also could be read that you’re trying to keep your version of cinematic history 
untainted. 

We live in a different world now. 
What was once acceptable and commonplace isn’t anymore. 
The voiceless are starting to gain a voice. 



> On Nov 25, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Chuck Kleinhans <chuck...@northwestern.edu> 
> wrote:
> 
> Sum Bodi and Evan Greene, 
> 
> In making the initial post on this discussion thread, I was thinking of the 
> general topic of sexual harassment, not calling out individual people.  I 
> think the discussion has tended to go that way, broadening out at times to 
> discuss sexism in general in the experimental art world.
> 
> I agree with Fred that it is not appropriate to name names here for several 
> reasons: much of the “knowledge” is hearsay, a free for all social media 
> listserv is not a forum with any protections for all the parties who might be 
> concerned (accuser, accused, bystanders, spouses/partners, children, the  
> framing institutions, etc.), and different people draw “the line” in 
> different places for inappropriate behavior. As much as possible, I think the 
> goal should be restorative justice.
> 
> At least in educational institutions today we have (some) formal Title IX 
> policies and procedures in place (as flawed as that system may be, and as 
> determined that the Trump administration is to weaken them). For a 
> particularly lucid discussion of these controversies I’d recommend 
> filmmaker/critic Laura Kipnis’s new book, Unwanted Advances: Sexual Paranoia 
> Comes to Campus.
> 
> Earlier Pip argued that because so much of experimental filmmaking is done in 
> an individual artisan way there aren’t the same workplace hierarchies as in 
> the commercial film world.  True, but anytime there are power differentials, 
> abuse is possible: that may be in funding, access to equipment, necessary 
> services, distribution, exhibition, curating, and even archiving and 
> preservation. And criticism and recognition.  Our field, after all ranges 
> from the first year student showing a short work at the end of the semester 
> class screening to yet another mammoth Mathew Barney extravaganza at a major 
> museum.
> 
> Chuck Kleinhans
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Re: [Frameworks] Asking for a friend

[Evan Greene]

Fred,

As a young person just beginning to venture into the experimental film world I 
find your unwillingness to name names rather troublesome. Your writing in the 
past year has been an invaluable resource for me. But knowingly letting these 
disgusting people and their art continue to garner the recognition and prestige 
it does, I think is wrong. History demands to be rewritten. Space made for the 
marginalized. If you do kno some of the greatest experimental filmmakers who 
did these things I would hope that you would share it. I think it’s important 
information in regards to writing/talking about and seeing their work in the 
future. Especially in experimental filmmaking where much of the content is 
personal. 



> On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:37 PM, Cecilia Dougherty  
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you! 
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 4:34 PM Fred Camper  wrote:
>> Amazing, but unfortunately not that big of a surprise. It supports my point 
>> that no group should feel holier than thou, or immune from all the badness. 
>> (Take, for example, priests, oh, wait, let's not...)
>> I have to admit I do not understand the psychology at work here -- what 
>> pleasure could any male get out of such behavior? I will say with virtual 
>> certainty that nothing that you did "prompted" him. I guess we humans are 
>> all different, and not always in good ways.
>> Thanks for speaking up.
>> 
>> Fred Camper
>> Chicago
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/24/2017 11:17 AM, Kate Ewald wrote:
>>> I will give an anecdote about this very listserv: I was very severely 
>>> sexually harassed as a college student posting about a film screening in 
>>> 2008.  It was for a well-known experimental filmmaker.  The response to my 
>>> post involved "oh, you don't know what you're talking about and I bet you 
>>> can shut up and stick a dick in your mouth."  This persisted for several 
>>> posts (becoming increasingly graphic), some just to me, some to the whole 
>>> list - I'm not sure what prompted such a reaction from this stranger.  
>>> Scott was kind enough to delete these posts from the archives out of 
>>> respect and block this person from Frameworks, but as a young person first 
>>> entering the experimental film community (it was my first post on 
>>> Frameworks), I was shaken.  Some people policed it and stood up for me 
>>> then, but Scott made it go away very quickly.  So yes, this happens in our 
>>> community, and yes, this happens on this listserv.  I wish it weren't the 
>>> case. 
>>> 
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[Frameworks] Rare Screening in Boston THIS WEDNESDAY

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Screening of some rare films this Wednesday

https://www.facebook.com/events/1821617011485550??ti=ia

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