Re: [Frameworks] Bruce Baillie

[Sarah Bliss]

Thank you, Dominic, for letting us know of Bruce and Lorie’s need.  It breaks 
my heart to think of Bruce sleeping on the floor and Lorie doing all she can to 
both care for him and keep her employment. May they both be well-supported and 
cared for, body and mind.  

Sarah
http://www.SarahBlissArt.com

> On Apr 9, 2020, at 8:00 AM, frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Dominic Angerame  >
> Subject: [Frameworks] Bruce Baillie
> Date: April 8, 2020 at 3:33:41 PM EDT
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List  >
> 
> 
> Hi Folks, sad news. Bruce Baillie is in the last days of care. Lorie Baillie 
> is in desperate need of funding. Currently Bruce is sleeping on the floor of 
> their house. Lorie wants his last days to be comfortable and to move him into 
> hospice care in her neighborhood because she can no long take care of him and 
> work at the same time.
> 
> The cost for this care is $6000. I know this is hard time for many people but 
> if you can send funds please send it via PayPal to
> 
>> tullylou...@gmail.co m
> 
> Thank you so much. Bruce Baillie is one of the most important experimental 
> filmmakers of our time and deserves to be well taken care of in his dying 
> days.
> 
> Dominic
> 

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[Sarah Bliss]

Thanks for writing.  I'm offline until December 28 and will begin responding to 
mail then and over the  next few days.

Best, Sarah



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Thanks for writing.  I'm offline until December 28 and will begin responding to 
mail then and over the  next few days.

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Re: [Frameworks] UK source for clear leader?

[Sarah Bliss]

Thanks, everyone, for your suggestions.  I learned that the leader is available 
from Orwo thru’ their UK rep James Holcombe.

All best, 

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[Frameworks] UK source for clear leader?

[Sarah Bliss]

Hi Friends,

Does anyone know of a UK source for clear 16mm leader?  Asking for a friend at 
DJCAD in Dundee. 

Thanks!

Sarah Bliss
http://www.SarahBlissArt.com <http://www.sarahblissart.com/>


Unless You’re Living It. 16mm. 08:22. 2019.  
https://vimeo.com/341796615

Upcoming screenings:

• Oct 31-Nov 3: Nomadica.  Bologna, Italy. http://www.nomadica.eu 
<http://www.nomadica.eu/>
• Nov 7-9: Engauge Experimental Film Festival. Seattle, WA. 
http://interbaycinemasociety.org/engauge-film-festival-2018/ 
<http://interbaycinemasociety.org/engauge-film-festival-2018/>
• Dec 4-8: Analogica Selection 9.  Bolzano, Italy. https://www.analogica.org 
<https://www.analogica.org/>
• Dec 6-8:  KLEX: Kuala Lumpur Experimental Film + Music Festival. Kuala 
Lumpur, Malaysia. http://www.klexfilmfest.com <http://www.klexfilmfest.com/>
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Re: [Frameworks] suggestions for experimental road movies

[Sarah Bliss]

Bryan,

XCNTRY (2018)  by Bill Brown 

Sarah Bliss
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Unless You’re Living It.  08:22. 2019.  
https://sarahblissart.com/gallery/41/0/Unless-Youre-Living-It



> Subject: [Frameworks] suggestions for experimental road movies and/or 
> experimental films about automobility
> Date: July 22, 2019 at 6:50:12 AM EDT
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List  <mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
> 
> 
> Hello all, I am in the process of building a program that looks at 
> automobility and road movies from an experimental perspective... wondering if 
> anyone has suggestions about artists' films that study this topic... Titles 
> and links would be preferable and I am open to both historic and current 
> works - if you have made something along these lines I would be happy to have 
> the opportunity to view such films/videos as well.
> 
> thanks everyone
> Bryan Konefsky
> president, Basement Films
> founder/director, Experiments in Cinema
> 
> Great art has always gone to the masses, to their hopes and dreams, for that 
> spark that kindled their souls. The rest, "the many, all too many" as 
> Nietzsche called mediocrity, have been mere commodities that can be bought 
> with money, cheap glory, or social position.
> - Emma Goldman
> 
> 
> 
> From: Albert Alcoz mailto:albertal...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] suggestions for experimental road movies and/or 
> experimental films about automobility
> Date: July 22, 2019 at 7:43:55 AM EDT
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List  <mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
> 
> 
> Some ideas:
> 
> Kustom Kar Kommandos (1965) by Kenneth Anger 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy5tJiRl7Sw>
> Harmonica (1971) by Larry Gottheim 
> <http://film-makerscoop.com/catalogue/larry-gottheim-harmonica>
> Moment (1972) by Bill Brand <https://vimeo.com/73812647>
> Fresh Kill (1972) by Gordon Matta-Clark 
> <https://www.eai.org/titles/fresh-kill> 
> Pasadena Freeway Stills (1974) by Gary Beydler 
> <https://lightcone.org/en/film-135-pasadena-freeway-stills>
> States of America <https://mubi.com/films/the-united-states-of-america> 
> (1975) by Bette Gordon and James Benning 
> <https://mubi.com/films/the-united-states-of-america>
> Seeing in the Rain 
> <http://www.chrisgallagher.ca/films/seeing_in_the_rain/index.html> (1981) by 
> Chris Gallagher 
> <http://www.chrisgallagher.ca/films/seeing_in_the_rain/index.html>
> Hringurinn (1985) by Fridrik Thor Fridriksson <https://vimeo.com/67694572>
> Undivided Attention (1987) by Chris Gallagher 
> <http://www.chrisgallagher.ca/films/undivided_attention/index.html>
> Mohave Cruising (2000) by Lluis Escartín <https://vimeo.com/39261046>
> Cinnamon (2006) by Kevin Jerome Everson 
> <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0492945/>
> Make It new John (2009) by Duncan Campbell 
> <https://lux.org.uk/work/make-it-new-john>
> Get Out of the Car (2010) by Thom Andersen 
> <https://lux.org.uk/work/get-out-of-the-car>
> Dromosphäre (2010) <https://vimeo.com/8067013%C3%A7> by Thorsten Fleisch 
> <https://vimeo.com/8067013>
> Chevelle <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2036347/> (2012) by Kevin Jerome 
> Everson <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2036347/>
> Death Songs & Car Bombs (2013) Brendan & Jeremy Smith 
> <https://vimeo.com/81776581>
> The Quiet Car (2013) by Ernie Gehr <https://mubi.com/films/the-quiet-car>
> C-LR: Coorow-Latham Road for Those Who Don’t Have the Time (2013) by Blake 
> Williams 
> <https://blakewilliams.net/c-lr-coorow-latham-road-for-those-who-dont-have-the-time-2013/>
> Small Roads (2017) by James Benning 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjiduRb4k0U>
> 
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 12:50 PM Bryan Konefsky  <mailto:bkonef...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hello all, I am in the process of building a program that looks at 
> automobility and road movies from an experimental perspective... wondering if 
> anyone has suggestions about artists' films that study this topic... Titles 
> and links would be preferable and I am open to both historic and current 
> works - if you have made something along these lines I would be happy to have 
> the opportunity to view such films/videos as well.
> 
> thanks everyone
> Bryan Konefsky
> president, Basement Films
> founder/director, Experiments in Cinema
> 
> Great art has always gone to the masses, to their hopes and dreams, for that 
> spark that kindled their souls. The rest, "the many, all too many" as 
> Nietzsche called mediocrity, have been mere commodities that can b

Re: [Frameworks] 16mm black film for scratching (Huckleberry Lain)

[Sarah Bliss]

Hi Huckleberry,

You can purchase 16mm black emulsion leader from Dwight Cody at the Boston 
Connection:  http://www.cutfilm.com/supplies.html 


Single perf 16mm is $19 for 100 ft, $170 for 1000 ft.  Double perf is $20 for 
100 ft and $190 for 1000 ft.

Sarah
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>   1. 16mm black film for scratching (Huckleberry Lain)
>   2. Re: 16mm black film for scratching (Beebe, Roger W.)
>   3. Re: 16mm black film for scratching (Jeff Kreines)
> 
> From: Huckleberry Lain 
> Subject: [Frameworks] 16mm black film for scratching
> Date: February 14, 2019 at 11:04:25 PM EST
> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List " 
> 
> 
> 
> Hey all,
> Tryin to see if there's any place to purchase 16mm black film for direct 
> manipulation techniques any more.
> 
> Or am I down to purchasing a roll of tri-x and sending it to the lab 
> unexposed?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> Huck
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Beebe, Roger W." 
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm black film for scratching
> Date: February 14, 2019 at 11:11:53 PM EST
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> 
> 
> Print stocks are way cheaper than camera stocks, so just buy some 3378 (for 
> ex.) and drop that in some developer (like a cheap Dektol kit that you can 
> get at your local photo store) and then you’re in business for not a lot of 
> $$$
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2019, at 11:04 PM, Huckleberry Lain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> Tryin to see if there's any place to purchase 16mm black film for direct 
>> manipulation techniques any more.
>> 
>> Or am I down to purchasing a roll of tri-x and sending it to the lab 
>> unexposed?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Huck
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> 
> 
> From: Jeff Kreines 
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm black film for scratching
> Date: February 15, 2019 at 12:53:14 AM EST
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> 
> 
> Colorlab sells 16mm black leader for negative cutting. It’s fogged and 
> processed optical track stock, I think. Very dense. And not polyester base. 
> 
> Jeff Kreines
> Kinetta
> j...@kinetta.com
> kinetta.com
> 
> Sent from iPhone. 
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Huckleberry Lain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> Tryin to see if there's any place to purchase 16mm black film for direct 
>> manipulation techniques any more.
>> 
>> Or am I down to purchasing a roll of tri-x and sending it to the lab 
>> unexposed?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Huck
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[Frameworks] elegies: thanks

[Sarah Bliss]

Many thanks to all who've sent suggestions of elegies either on-list or to me 
personally.  Apologies that I’m not able to respond individually to each of you 
right now.  

Also want to clarify that I’m not curating a film program on this topic.  I was 
instead seeking food for thought for my film collective in preparation for a 
salon discussion we’re holding for members on the topic. 

best, 

Sarah Bliss
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[Frameworks] Seeking examples of film elegies

[Sarah Bliss]

Greetings Frameworkers,

I write from AgX in Boston, where we are making our way, in grief and with 
love, since the death of our beloved Rob Todd.  At AgX, we sometimes hold a 
salon for members. The theme of our next will be elegies.  What filmic examples 
of elegies do you know?

The Poetry Foundation defines an elegy as: "In traditional English poetry, it 
is often a melancholy poem that laments its subject’s death but ends in 
consolation."

Thanks, 

Sarah Bliss
http://www.SarahBlissArt.com


Frame grab from La Petite Mort

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Re: [Frameworks] spirit communication

[Sarah Bliss]

Susan MacWilliam.   http://www.susanmacwilliam.com/about

Working with video, photography and installation MacWilliam’s work explores 
obscure and overlooked histories and considers perceptual phenomena and the 
world of the paranormal and supersensory.  Through anecdote, reconstruction and 
detailed editing MacWilliam’s works explore forms of portraiture and 
interpretation, and provide a historical visual record of cases within the 
history of parapsychology and psychical research. The works consider the world 
of the paranormal, the supersensory and the tradition of psychical research. 
With an interest in that which is on the periphery of the mainstream and which 
falls beyond conventional fields of science and psychology MacWilliam has 
developed an extensive body of work, exploring a range of phenomena including 
dermo optical perception, table tilting, psychic abilities and mediumship. 


Sarah Bliss
http://www.sarahblissart.com






> On Sep 27, 2017, at 8:00 AM, frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com wrote:
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>   1. spirit communication (Matt Shaw)
>   2. Re: spirit communication (lagonaboba)
>   3. Re: spirit communication (lagonaboba)
>   4. Re: spirit communication (Peter Bo Rappmund)
> 
> From: Matt Shaw <mshaw...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Frameworks] spirit communication
> Date: September 26, 2017 at 5:03:30 PM EDT
> To: "frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com" <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> 
> 
> Hi everyone, 
> 
> I'm looking for examples of documentary and experimental documentary film and 
> video on the topic of spirit communication (EVP, mediums, etc.). 
> 
> Re-starting a project in this realm myself and looking for existing work I 
> can use to gauge direction, what has and hasn't been covered, etc. 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Matt Shaw
> 
> 
> 
> From: lagonaboba <lagonab...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] spirit communication
> Date: September 26, 2017 at 5:18:13 PM EDT
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> 
> 
> Zoe Beloff has done a lot of wonderful, excellent work in that territory.
> http://www.zoebeloff.com/ <http://www.zoebeloff.com/>
> 
> see:
> A Mechanical Medium  (1999)
> SHADOW LAND OR LIGHT FROM THE OTHER SIDE  (2000)
> CLAIRE AND DON IN SLUMBERLAND (2002)
> 
> and no doubt other work of hers.
> 
> bob harris
> 
> 
> On Sep 26, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Matt Shaw <mshaw...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:mshaw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone, 
>> 
>> I'm looking for examples of documentary and experimental documentary film 
>> and video on the topic of spirit communication (EVP, mediums, etc.). 
>> 
>> Re-starting a project in this realm myself and looking for existing work I 
>> can use to gauge direction, what has and hasn't been covered, etc. 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Matt Shaw
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> 
> From: lagonaboba <lagonab...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] spirit communication
> Date: September 26, 2017 at 5:22:27 PM EDT
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> 
> 
> Kenneth Anger:  Invocation of my Demon Brother
> 
> and Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 26, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Matt Shaw  aw...@gmail.com <mailto:aw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone, 
>> 
>> I'm looking for examples of documentary and experimental documentary film 
>> and video on the topic of spirit communication (EVP, mediums, etc.). 
>> 
>> Re-starting a project in this realm myself and looking for existing work I 
>> can use to gauge direction, what has and hasn't been covered, etc. 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] optical sound film screening

[Sarah Bliss]

Peter, 

Two excellent projects using direct sound:

Kathryn Ramey's double projector looping work , "Enola Em Evael"

Clint Enns' "A Day in the Shint"

Sarah Bliss
http://www.SarahBlissArt.com




> On Mar 3, 2017, at 11:50 PM, C Keefer <keef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Are you seeking film prints or digital copies?  Fischinger's Ornament Sound, 
> as Ingo mentioned (contact Center for Visual Music, Los Angeles for 
> Fischinger films). We also have a16mm print at Light Cone, Paris.
> 
> Several films by Barry Spinello, several by Norman McLaren. Many by Devon 
> Damonte, many by Richard Reeves.
> 
> Here's a direct/handmade sound program I curated for a "Seeing Sound" 
> symposium in Bath, UK, with descriptions of some of these films:
> http://www.seeingsound.co.uk/programme-2/fixed-media/
> 
> best regards,
> Cindy Keefer
> Center for Visual Music
> www.centerforvisualmusic.org
> contact:  cvmaccess (at) gmail.com
> 
>  
>>  
>>
>> 
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Peter Szely <sz...@ima.or.at>
>> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
>> Cc: 
>> Bcc: 
>> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 14:27:42 +0100
>> Subject: [Frameworks] optical sound film screening
>> hello all,
>> 
>> my name is peter szely from ima, institute for media archeology.
>> 
>> feel free to check out our website www.ima.or.at
>> 
>>  I have a question:
>> 
>> ima always set itself a yearly topic in our work.
>> 
>> this years topic is optical sound.
>> 
>> we plan to have workshops and concerts dealing with optical sound, and we 
>> also plan to hav a film screening  of movies.
>> 
>> we are interested in movies where the sound comes from manipulations and 
>> treatments such as drawing or scratching directly on the celluloid,
>> 
>> do you have any recommendations of fine pieces of film working like this?
>> 
>> thanks in advance
>> 
>> best szely
>> 
>> Peter Szely
>> sz...@ima.or.at
>> IMA / Institut für Medienarchäologie
>> Heinrich-Schneidmadl-Straße 15
>> 3100 St. Pölten
>> Tel: 0043 6991 9561906
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  - 
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[Frameworks] Call for papers and films on Animated Documentary

[Sarah Bliss]

Hi Folks,

Especially for those working in animated doc:

A friend and colleague is organizing this very interesting symposium on 
Animated Documentary in London.  See below for info on the call for papers and 
films.

Please share.

Sarah Bliss
http://www.SarahBlissArt.com

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Cinesthetic feasts <comment-re...@wordpress.com>
> Subject: [Spam] :[New post] Ecstatic Truth: Lessons of Darkness and Light
> Date: January 26, 2017 at 1:52:13 PM EST
> To: bl...@sarahblissart.com
> Reply-To: Cinesthetic feasts 
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> 
> Respond to this post by replying above this line
> New post on Cinesthetic feasts
> 
>  <https://cinestheticfeasts.wordpress.com/author/terezast/>   
> Ecstatic Truth: Lessons of Darkness and Light 
> <https://cinestheticfeasts.wordpress.com/2017/01/26/ecstatic-truth-lessons-of-darkness-and-light/>by
>  Tereza Stehlikova <https://cinestheticfeasts.wordpress.com/author/terezast/>
> I am pleased to announce the call for papers for the next animated 
> documentary symposium at the Royal College of Art, London, which I am helping 
> to organise and also programme.
> 
> Ecstatic Truth: Lessons of Darkness and Light
> “Fact creates norms, and truth illumination” Werner Herzog
> 
> Date: Saturday 27th May, 2017
> Location: Lecture Theatre 1, Darwin Building, Royal College of Art, 
> Kensington Gore
> 
>  <https://cinestheticfeasts.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/kostnice.jpg>Image 
> from Jan Svankmajer's Ossuary.
> 
> The second animated documentary symposium at the RCA is back!
> 
> We want to continue with the examination of how animation can contribute to, 
> challenge and push the boundaries of what documentary film can be. We will 
> consider animation in the most expanded sense and are interested in proposals 
> that may question and redefine the frontiers of animation itself. We can also 
> confirm that Annabelle Honess Roe, author of ‘Animated Documentary’, will be 
> one of our keynote speakers.
> 
> In the last symposium, one of the themes that emerged was one of archaeology 
> and excavation. According to Herzog: “There are deeper strata of truth in 
> cinema, and there is such a thing as poetic, ecstatic truth. It is mysterious 
> and elusive, and can be reached only through fabrication and imagination and 
> stylization.”
> 
> We invite speakers to present projects that roam the landscape (whether real 
> or imagined), dig beneath the surface, penetrate through the sediments of our 
> understanding of reality, explore vertical time of poetry, examine hidden 
> histories, project visions of future, or trace new connections between 
> concepts, use fabrication and imagination to touch upon vital issues: whether 
> these are social, political, philosophical, or personal.
> 
> At a time of polarised political views and a deep sense of division, it seems 
> to be a relevant moment to question the concept of darkness and light, 
> aesthetically, politically, ethically, imaginatively. How can our work be of 
> relevance, help us understand where we have been, where we are, and where we 
> might go? How can the notion of ecstatic truth cast light on the shadowy 
> concept of post-truth and what contribution can animated documentary bring to 
> this debate? How can animation documentary, in its most expanded form, 
> illuminate us?
> 
> We are opening this call for paper to PhD students, researchers (within 
> animation but also beyond), filmmakers and other practitioners, who use 
> animation as part of their methodology, their way of trying to understand the 
> world.
> 
> Proposed themes:
> 
> Deeper Strata
> Vertical time and poetic image, landscape and memory, shared or personal 
> history, embodiment
> 
> Visions of Future
> Imagination and fabrication, science-fiction, art & science dialogue, role of 
> technology
> 
> Lessons of Darkness and Light
> Human condition, social issues, society, social commentary, religious or 
> spiritual, re-contextualising documentary footage, post-truth/ecstatic 
> truth/animated form, expressive and experiential forms of conveying meaning, 
> questions of subjectivity etc.
> 
> Proposals should be for either:
> – a 20 minute conference paper;
> – an alternative discussion/presentation format as appropriate for 
> practice-based research (this can include practice based work in a form of 
> short films, images etc.)
> 
> To submit your proposal or any related questions please contact dr Tereza 
> Stehlikova:
> 
> tereza.stehlik...@network.rca.ac.uk 
> <mailto:tereza.stehlik...@network.rca.ac.uk>
> The deadline for submissions is 7th Ap

Re: [Frameworks] Peter Hutton event

[Sarah Bliss]

Scott,

So sorry to miss your talk and screening tonight.  Will your remarks be 
available in any other form?

Thanks, 

Sarah Bliss
http://www.SarahBlissArt.com

> 
> 
> From: Scott MacDonald <smacd...@hamilton.edu>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Peter Hutton event
> Date: October 7, 2016 at 2:43:04 PM EDT
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> 
> 
> Dear Frameworkers,
> 
> I want to alert you to an event in honor of Peter Hutton that is happening 
> this weekend at the Thomas Cole National Historic Site (well, actually, at 
> the theater at Columbia Greene Community College, then afterward at the Cole 
> Site in Catskill).
> 
> It is that rare instance of an arts institution recognizing that the spirit 
> of classic American landscape painting remains alive in the work of a modern 
> independent filmmaker.
> 
> I'm attaching the press release for the event with further information--you 
> can also check the Site's website.
> 
> Best,
> Scott 
> 
> 

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Re: [Frameworks] chemical disposal with septic system

[Sarah Bliss]

Update to my earlier note:  

Have just reviewed notes I made at Phil Hoffman’s Film Farm this summer, where 
Ricardo Leite gave an organic processing workshop, and wanted to share here.

Ricardo has developed recipes to replace bleach with hugely less toxic 
alternatives for B reversal.  See recipes and beautiful results here:  
http://www.filmlabs.org/docs/citric-hydrogen-peroxide-bleach.pdf

He skips a clearing bath, with good results.  Images are more contrasty and 
have a browner cast than if clearing bath is used.

Amanda:  Ricardo has found that salt works as a fixer, but it takes about 3 
days of soaking.

I also noted that Phil Hoffman doesn’t use fixer when processing B reversal, 
tho’ he keeps it in for negative.  He says it may fade in 10 years or more, but 
so far his prints of less than 10 years don’t show fading. 

Sarah
http://www.SarahBlissArt.com


> On Aug 30, 2016, at 8:44 PM, Sarah Bliss <bl...@sarahblissart.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Amanda, Scott, Pip, Sherman and David!  I very much appreciate all the 
> info.  
> 
> I appreciate the links to Kodak’s info, Sherman.  Unfortunately, I’m not able 
> to access further links from that page.  Seems I need program membership, but 
> I don’t find info on what that is. 
> 
> Great to learn about onions as a temporary fix, Pip! 
> 
> Sounds like the most problematic chemicals are in bleach, fix, and hypoclear. 
>   If spent chemicals are decanted and taken to a toxic waste site, how much 
> of a concern are the trace chemicals and silver in washes?  Many folks seem 
> to think the impact on the septic system is not of major concern, which 
> leaves me with a concern about drinking water and general environmental 
> health.  Searches online bring up opinions running the gamut, but we’ll be 
> drinking water that has these untreated chemicals in them.   
> 
> And do  I have it right that installing a silver recovery system is as simple 
> as getting a special magnet that will attract the silver?
> 
> 
> Sarah
> http://www.SarahBlissArt.com <http://www.sarahblissart.com/>
> 
> 

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Re: [Frameworks] chemical disposal with septic system

[Sarah Bliss]

Thanks Amanda, Scott, Pip, Sherman and David!  I very much appreciate all the 
info.  

I appreciate the links to Kodak’s info, Sherman.  Unfortunately, I’m not able 
to access further links from that page.  Seems I need program membership, but I 
don’t find info on what that is. 

Great to learn about onions as a temporary fix, Pip! 

Sounds like the most problematic chemicals are in bleach, fix, and hypoclear.   
If spent chemicals are decanted and taken to a toxic waste site, how much of a 
concern are the trace chemicals and silver in washes?  Many folks seem to think 
the impact on the septic system is not of major concern, which leaves me with a 
concern about drinking water and general environmental health.  Searches online 
bring up opinions running the gamut, but we’ll be drinking water that has these 
untreated chemicals in them.   

And do  I have it right that installing a silver recovery system is as simple 
as getting a special magnet that will attract the silver?


Sarah
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[Frameworks] chemical disposal with septic system

[Sarah Bliss]

Hi All,

I’m a member of the AgX Collective in Boston.  

I’m a newbie to analog filmmaking, thoroughly hooked after a week at Phil 
Hoffman’s Film Farm this summer.

I live in rural Massachusetts, and plan to build a darkroom this fall in a home 
studio.  I’m concerned about the impact on health of chemical drain/disposal.  
We have a well and septic system, as do our neighbors.  I’m seeking info about 
best and safest practice for disposing of chemicals, both regarding human water 
consumption, and also the impact on the complete ecological system.  

I’ve been told that the best one can do is to rebottle used chemicals and take 
to a toxic waste site, in addition to installing a filtration system to catch 
silver nitrate that drains from washes.  Is that accurate?  What is 
safest/causes least harm?  I’m excited to learn more about “organic developing” 
after getting an intro to this from Ricardo Leite at Film Farm, but am also 
seeking info about chemical processing.

Questions:
what can a filtration system actually filter?  Just silver nitrate?  Can it 
filter chemicals from developers, bleach, fix, etc?
can you point me to info on how to construct a filtration system?
what chemicals/how much will still go into the ground, and what is impact on 
humans, animals, plants?
is this safe for a septic system?
suggestions for reading/info/resources?

Thanks kindly for any advice/resources!

Sarah Bliss
http://www.SarahBlissArt.com

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