Re: [Frameworks] optical soundtrack generator?

[Seth Mitter]

AEO-Light is a tool that does the exact reverse and therefore may be of
interest here. It takes images of optical soundtracks from a film scanner
output (overscan tiff or dpx image sequences) and converts them into
digital audio files.
https://usc-imi.github.io/aeo-light/#about

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 11:30 AM Jason Halprin  wrote:

> Hi Scott (et al),
>
> Not for 35mm, necessarily, but there is a very active 16mm Auricon group
> on facebook that might have some tips or starting points. Not necessarily
> for Scott, as I'm guessing you already know, but these were TV news cameras
> that recorded optical sound directly on the film - no need for syncing
> later on. These have been converted by DIY labs to become sound printers,
> as well.
>
> For 35mm you may be able to find an old Westrex 35mm printer (mono)...and
> perhaps just using it as a recording device for the sound output from a
> computer would be more accurate than trying to print the sound line-by-line?
>
> Regardless, please share with us when you have a solution!
>
> -Jason Halprin
> Montréal
> Jason Halprin
> jihalp...@gmail.com
> jasonhalprin.com 
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 10:17 AM Scott Dorsey  wrote:
>
>> Ahh, I get it, you want a digital image of what the soundtrack would like
>> and
>> you want to plot it out as part of your filmout.
>>
>> This turns out not to be an easy thing to do because of the frame lines...
>> it is very very hard to get the bottom of one frame to line up perfectly
>> with
>> the top of the next one so there is not some discontinuity 24 times a
>> second.
>> The Arrilaser recorder can do it, but they take a file that consists of
>> frames and turn it into a datastream that consists of individual lines,
>> and
>> plot a line at a time instead of a frame at a time.
>>
>> But if you want to try it just to see what happens, it should not be all
>> that hard to write a little script to create two white lines whose width
>> varies with modulation.  Pull values one at a time out of a .wav file,
>> use them to set the width of the line directly.
>> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Michael Wallin’s Monitoring the Unstable Earth (1980)

[Seth Mitter]

Hi Kornelia,

Looks like University of Iowa Libraries holds the VHS copy of THREE FILMS
BY MICHAEL WALLIN
https://search.lib.uiowa.edu/permalink/f/9i2ftm/01IOWA_ALMA21398505620002771

Found via worldcat, here:
http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/148112009

-Seth

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 8:12 AM Kornelia Boczkowska <
kornelia.boczkow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Frameworkers,
>
> I was wondering if anyone is aware of the existence of a digital copy of
> Michael Wallin’s 16mm film, Monitoring the Unstable Earth (1980)? Or a
> VHS/DVD, which includes this particular title?
>
> According to this website
>
> http://people.wcsu.edu/mccarneyh/fva/W/WallinM_work.html
>
> Monitoring the Unstable Earth (1980) 20 min 16mm (also video)
>
> Three Films by Michael Wallin (1980-1983) 55 min video (Along the Way,
> Fearful Symmetry, Monitoring the Unstable Earth)
>
> ... the film has been transferred to video, but no one I talked to about
> it has confirmed it. If someone happens to have some information on that,
> please let me know either on or off list – I’d be extremely grateful!
>
> Thanks and best wishes,
>
> Kornelia
>
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> Assistant Professor
> Department of Studies in Culture
> Faculty of English | Adam Mickiewicz University in 
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[Frameworks] another university surplus auction...

[Seth Mitter]

at Indiana University, Bloomington:
https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item=9334=3923

among a bunch of old Blackhawk films, Griffith, etc. there appear to be
16mm prints of
Oskar Fischinger
*Murrati Gets In The Act *
Hans Richter *Ghosts Before Breakfast,* *Race Symphony, Inflation,
Everything Turns*
Walter Ruttman *Opus II, III, IV*
Cecile Starr's *Richter On Film*
a can lableled "Croatian Animation 1970s"

and includes what looks to be a nice re-badged Hokushin 16mm projector
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[Frameworks] High resolution enlargements from 16mm prints

[Seth Mitter]

Dear Frameworks,

I'm working on a project with Canyon Cinema to create a frame enlargement
setup in-house to create high resolution digital images from 16mm prints
(both single frames and frame sequences). I'm hoping to hear from anyone
who has experience or expertise in creating a setup that produced excellent
digital images for large format printing. Capability to focus and resolve
grain in 16mm prints is critical, as well as producing files equivalent to
4K pixel dimensions (or higher).

As an example I've recently been impressed by the quality of the Peter
Hutton Film Stills exhibited at Shoshanna Wayne Gallery:
http://shoshanawayne.com/peter-hutton-film-stills/43inytqgn0w6pule0fc1clu8xltuwg
(if anyone knows who worked on producing these enlargements I'd love to get
in contact).

I'm aware of methods using consumer flatbed document scanners but have
never been satisfied with results. I've heard of (but never tried) using
special 16mm dimension slide duplicator mounts for 35mm slr cameras - I
imagine this only worked for single frame enlargements, not frame
sequences. Buying a 4k films scanner definitely isn't in the budget either.

Any suggestions or advice will be much appreciated.

-Seth
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Re: [Frameworks] Scott Bartlett's Moon 1969 digital copy available?

[Seth Mitter]

Pacific Film Archive in Berkeley CA represents Scott Bartlett's Estate and
likely holds the best existing materials for MOON 1969.  See e.g.
http://oskicat.berkeley.edu/record=b10390174~S1

No "authorized" digital copy exists so far as I know, but no harm in asking
PFA if they have one or could make one.

-Seth Mitter
SF/CA

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Margaret Rorison <
margaret.b.rori...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Friends,
>
> I am wondering if a good digital version of Scott Bartlett's Moon 1969
> exists out there?
>
> A friend is looking for a copy to present one evening as part of a curated
> screening and performance in Baltimore, Maryland.
>
> Any help would be appreciated!
> thanks,
> Meg Rorison
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Re: [Frameworks] how many versions of Bruce Conner's Report?

[Seth Mitter]

NYPL reserve film & video collection appears to have 3 prints of REPORT
http://catalog.nypl.org/record=b17632181~S1

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Kelsey Velez  wrote:

> The print at SAIC was acquired from the Conner family trust, so it's
> likely that the print you saw ('67) was the same as the one I'm referring
> to. Just a guess.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 6, 2016, at 12:45, John Muse  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Kelsey.  I only know the (gorgeously printed) version available
> from Michelle Silva and the Conner Family Trust, which was until a few
> minutes ago also up at Ubuweb.  Do you mean that SAIC has the version that
> Mosen describes?  Or the '67 version now in distribution?
> >
> >> On Feb 6, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Kelsey Velez 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The School of the Art Institute is in possession of a different version
> of Report than the one mentioned. The sequence at the beginning of the film
> is footage of the motorcade just before the moment Mr. Kennedy was shot. If
> memory serves me right, the soundtrack begins the same way in the version
> at SAIC as it does in the version mentioned by Herb. Don't quote me,
> though. It was printed and purchased in 2014.
> >>
> >> FYI.
> >> Kelsey
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Feb 5, 2016, at 09:15, John Muse  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Excellent!  Thanks, Herb.  Great screening idea: it would be very
> interesting.
> >>>
>  On Feb 5, 2016, at 10:13 AM, Herb Shellenberger 
> wrote:
> 
>  Eight.
> 
>  "Report was actually shown in eight different versions – all of equal
> duration and with the same soundtrack – after its initial premiere at the
> Harvard Film Society in 1964. The final version – after which the previous
> iterations were destroyed, if they hadn’t already been obliterated in the
> process of revision – was not completed until 1967. "
>  http://sensesofcinema.com/2009/cteq/report/
> 
>  Depending on when collections acquired the film it could be
> different. I've wanted for a while to do a screening of as many prints of
> the film as possible, a report on Report. But that might end up being not
> too interesting in the end.
> 
>  -h
> 
>  On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 11:07 PM, John Muse  wrote:
>  Having just screened a 16mm print of Report rented from Michelle
> Silva and the Conner Family Trust and having watched the version up at UBU
> several times http://ubu.com/film/conner_report.html I am surprised when
> I read a 1966 review of Report by Robert Mosen (Film Quarterly, Vol. 19,
> No. 3, Spring, 1966, pp. 54-56) who describes the film this way:
> 
> > Conner opens Report with several minutes of a printed film loop of
> Jackie and Caroline as they approach, kneel at, and walk away from
> Kennedy's coffin which is lying in state.
> 
>  And then:
> 
> > We go through a few loops before the sound track begins. It is a
> radio newscast of the five minutes of routine Dallas motorcade that
> preceded the assassination.
> 
> 
>  Finally:
> 
> > What follows the film loop and occupies the remaining ten minutes of
> the film can only be described as a tour de force of implicational montage.
> The image is a constant shuffle of several groups of footage. The first
> thing we see is a close-up of matador and bull in the thick of battle.
> 
> 
>  This sounds like a different film.  How many versions were there?
> What would Mosen likely have seen?
> 
>  Thanks.
> 
>  j/PrM
> 
>  *
> 
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