Re: [Frameworks] Arri S Tech Question

2020-05-28 Thread Dominic Angerame 
I have used Olympus and Nikon zooms as a C mount on a Bolex and have 
experienced the issues that I compensated for such as shooting above a 2.8 and 
a doubling of the focal length. However once I learned how to use the zoom with 
a c mount adapter on a rx 4 the results were quite good.

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> On May 27, 2020, at 9:14 PM, Isaac Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I was just curious. The hard front with the single mount is what I asked 
> him about - I had access some lenses in PL at the time. I often use a set of 
> primes in b-mount when I can on my 16S, happily. That said I don’t think its 
> that unreasonable a prospect. IB 
> 
> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 11:00 PM Jeff Kreines  > wrote:
> It would likely require a hard front with one mount. 
> 
> But why do it?  PL mount lenses are pricey, and there’s a lot of good glass 
> in Arri Mount. Besides, the 16S isn’t Super 16, so you are putting a lot of 
> money into a camera that would be hard to sell. (If that matters to you.)
> 
> Converting a 16S to S16 is difficult. I’d be wary of most repair people who 
> claim they can do it.
> 
> Jeff Kreines
> Kinetta
> j...@kinetta.com 
> kinetta.com 
> 
> Sent from iPhone. 
> 
>> On May 27, 2020, at 10:53 PM, Isaac Brooks > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
>> Jeff & Co, 
>> 
>> I’m sorry for the aside, but do you know of a technician that could put a PL 
>> hard front on an Arri 16S? Asked Les Bosher once and he said he didn’t offer 
>> it as an option. Thank you! 
>> 
>> Isaac 
>> 
>> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:05 PM Jeff Kreines > > wrote:
>> I hate to disagree with Scott. 
>> 
>> First, I assume your camera has a standard or Bayonet Arri mount, not PL. 
>> 
>> Arri Mount has a flange focal distance of 52mm. Olympus has a FFD of 46mm. 
>> That means a lens can’t focus to infinity, tho it could be used as a macro. 
>> Zooms will be somewhat disastrous as focus won’t hold through the zoom range.
>> 
>> If it were the other way — using the Olympus lens on, say, a C mount camera, 
>> there’s plenty of room — C Mount is 17.526. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jeff Kreines
>> Kinetta
>> j...@kinetta.com 
>> kinetta.com 
>> 
>> Sent from iPhone. 
>> 
>> > On May 27, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Dominic Angerame > > > wrote:
>> > 
>> > Yeah thanks Scott was able to get a battery from B that works just 
>> > fine, very portable….Power Star 1223 12v 2.3AH also runs my EL.
>> > 
>> > d
>> > 
>> >> On May 27, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Scott Dorsey > >> > wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> You could probably get an M42-to-PL adaptor and then an Olympus-to-M42
>> >> adaptor and screw them together if you really are married to that 
>> >> configuration.  I wouldn't try it with a zoom, though... every time you
>> >> add an adaptor you're adding more error to your backfocus distance.
>> >> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Arri S Tech Question

2020-05-27 Thread Isaac Brooks 
Yeah I was just curious. The hard front with the single mount is what I
asked him about - I had access some lenses in PL at the time. I often use a
set of primes in b-mount when I can on my 16S, happily. That said I don’t
think its that unreasonable a prospect. IB

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 11:00 PM Jeff Kreines  wrote:

> It would likely require a hard front with one mount.
>
> But why do it?  PL mount lenses are pricey, and there’s a lot of good
> glass in Arri Mount. Besides, the 16S isn’t Super 16, so you are putting a
> lot of money into a camera that would be hard to sell. (If that matters to
> you.)
>
> Converting a 16S to S16 is difficult. I’d be wary of most repair people
> who claim they can do it.
>
> Jeff Kreines
> Kinetta
> j...@kinetta.com
> kinetta.com
>
> Sent from iPhone.
>
> On May 27, 2020, at 10:53 PM, Isaac Brooks 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Jeff & Co,
>
> I’m sorry for the aside, but do you know of a technician that could put a
> PL hard front on an Arri 16S? Asked Les Bosher once and he said he didn’t
> offer it as an option. Thank you!
>
> Isaac
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:05 PM Jeff Kreines  wrote:
>
>> I hate to disagree with Scott.
>>
>> First, I assume your camera has a standard or Bayonet Arri mount, not PL.
>>
>> Arri Mount has a flange focal distance of 52mm. Olympus has a FFD of
>> 46mm. That means a lens can’t focus to infinity, tho it could be used as a
>> macro. Zooms will be somewhat disastrous as focus won’t hold through the
>> zoom range.
>>
>> If it were the other way — using the Olympus lens on, say, a C mount
>> camera, there’s plenty of room — C Mount is 17.526.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff Kreines
>> Kinetta
>> j...@kinetta.com
>> kinetta.com
>>
>> Sent from iPhone.
>>
>> > On May 27, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Dominic Angerame <
>> dominic.anger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Yeah thanks Scott was able to get a battery from B that works just
>> fine, very portable….Power Star 1223 12v 2.3AH also runs my EL.
>> >
>> > d
>> >
>> >> On May 27, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You could probably get an M42-to-PL adaptor and then an Olympus-to-M42
>> >> adaptor and screw them together if you really are married to that
>> >> configuration.  I wouldn't try it with a zoom, though... every time you
>> >> add an adaptor you're adding more error to your backfocus distance.
>> >> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Arri S Tech Question

2020-05-27 Thread Jeff Kreines 
It would likely require a hard front with one mount. 

But why do it?  PL mount lenses are pricey, and there’s a lot of good glass in 
Arri Mount. Besides, the 16S isn’t Super 16, so you are putting a lot of money 
into a camera that would be hard to sell. (If that matters to you.)

Converting a 16S to S16 is difficult. I’d be wary of most repair people who 
claim they can do it.

Jeff Kreines
Kinetta
j...@kinetta.com
kinetta.com

Sent from iPhone. 

> On May 27, 2020, at 10:53 PM, Isaac Brooks  wrote:
> 
> 
> Jeff & Co, 
> 
> I’m sorry for the aside, but do you know of a technician that could put a PL 
> hard front on an Arri 16S? Asked Les Bosher once and he said he didn’t offer 
> it as an option. Thank you! 
> 
> Isaac 
> 
>> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:05 PM Jeff Kreines  wrote:
>> I hate to disagree with Scott. 
>> 
>> First, I assume your camera has a standard or Bayonet Arri mount, not PL. 
>> 
>> Arri Mount has a flange focal distance of 52mm. Olympus has a FFD of 46mm. 
>> That means a lens can’t focus to infinity, tho it could be used as a macro. 
>> Zooms will be somewhat disastrous as focus won’t hold through the zoom range.
>> 
>> If it were the other way — using the Olympus lens on, say, a C mount camera, 
>> there’s plenty of room — C Mount is 17.526. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jeff Kreines
>> Kinetta
>> j...@kinetta.com
>> kinetta.com
>> 
>> Sent from iPhone. 
>> 
>> > On May 27, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Dominic Angerame  
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> > Yeah thanks Scott was able to get a battery from B that works just 
>> > fine, very portable….Power Star 1223 12v 2.3AH also runs my EL.
>> > 
>> > d
>> > 
>> >> On May 27, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> You could probably get an M42-to-PL adaptor and then an Olympus-to-M42
>> >> adaptor and screw them together if you really are married to that 
>> >> configuration.  I wouldn't try it with a zoom, though... every time you
>> >> add an adaptor you're adding more error to your backfocus distance.
>> >> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Arri S Tech Question

2020-05-27 Thread Isaac Brooks 
Jeff & Co,

I’m sorry for the aside, but do you know of a technician that could put a
PL hard front on an Arri 16S? Asked Les Bosher once and he said he didn’t
offer it as an option. Thank you!

Isaac

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:05 PM Jeff Kreines  wrote:

> I hate to disagree with Scott.
>
> First, I assume your camera has a standard or Bayonet Arri mount, not PL.
>
> Arri Mount has a flange focal distance of 52mm. Olympus has a FFD of 46mm.
> That means a lens can’t focus to infinity, tho it could be used as a macro.
> Zooms will be somewhat disastrous as focus won’t hold through the zoom
> range.
>
> If it were the other way — using the Olympus lens on, say, a C mount
> camera, there’s plenty of room — C Mount is 17.526.
>
>
>
> Jeff Kreines
> Kinetta
> j...@kinetta.com
> kinetta.com
>
> Sent from iPhone.
>
> > On May 27, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Dominic Angerame <
> dominic.anger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah thanks Scott was able to get a battery from B that works just
> fine, very portable….Power Star 1223 12v 2.3AH also runs my EL.
> >
> > d
> >
> >> On May 27, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:
> >>
> >> You could probably get an M42-to-PL adaptor and then an Olympus-to-M42
> >> adaptor and screw them together if you really are married to that
> >> configuration.  I wouldn't try it with a zoom, though... every time you
> >> add an adaptor you're adding more error to your backfocus distance.
> >> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Arri S Tech Question

2020-05-27 Thread Dominic Angerame 
Yeah thanks Scott was able to get a battery from B that works just fine, very 
portable….Power Star 1223 12v 2.3AH also runs my EL.

d

> On May 27, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:
> 
> You could probably get an M42-to-PL adaptor and then an Olympus-to-M42
> adaptor and screw them together if you really are married to that 
> configuration.  I wouldn't try it with a zoom, though... every time you
> add an adaptor you're adding more error to your backfocus distance.
> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Arri S Tech Question

2020-05-27 Thread Scott Dorsey 
You could probably get an M42-to-PL adaptor and then an Olympus-to-M42
adaptor and screw them together if you really are married to that 
configuration.  I wouldn't try it with a zoom, though... every time you
add an adaptor you're adding more error to your backfocus distance.
--scott
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[Frameworks] Arri S Tech Question

2020-05-27 Thread Dominic Angerame 
I have an Arri S camera and I want to use my Olympus zoom lens for filming. 
Does anyone know if there is such an adapter Arri S mount to Olympus.

Thanks


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