Re: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962
Raphael Montañez Ortiz's films are pretty destructive found-footage afairs. Golf uses hole punches. Cowboy and 'Indian' Film and Newsreel subject found footage to random recutting with a tomahawk (per Ortiz's description, although one suspects a proper splicer was used). All those films date from the late 1950s. ... Roger Beebe Berlin (for now) On Jun 5, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Madison Brookshire wrote: Fellow Frameworkers, Does anyone have suggestions for films 1945-1962 that create film imagery in a destructive way? e.g. scratching, bleaching, hole punching, etc. I am thinking of works such as Isadore Isou's Venom and Eternity (1951), less of Len Lye's Free Radicals (1958). Suggestions of works later than '62, up to say 1966 are also welcome [i.e. Carolee Schneemann Fuses (1965)] Thank you in advance, Madison Brookshire Los Angeles ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962
Scratching: Kenneth Anger, Fireworks 1947 at least one or two by Brakhage in the 1950s but I don't remember which ones. -Original Message- From: Madison Brookshire Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:39 AM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962 Fellow Frameworkers, Does anyone have suggestions for films 1945-1962 that create film imagery in a destructive way? e.g. scratching, bleaching, hole punching, etc. I am thinking of works such as Isadore Isou's Venom and Eternity (1951), less of Len Lye's Free Radicals (1958). Suggestions of works later than '62, up to say 1966 are also welcome [i.e. Carolee Schneemann Fuses (1965)] Thank you in advance, Madison Brookshire Los Angeles ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5048 - Release Date: 06/05/12 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962
The other Lettristes Maurice Lemaitre Guy Debord etc. Obviously Jeff Keen. Margaret Tait did a few experiements in the 50s and 60s. Rob On 05/06/2012 17:39, Madison Brookshire mbrooksh...@gmail.com wrote: Fellow Frameworkers, Does anyone have suggestions for films 1945-1962 that create film imagery in a destructive way? e.g. scratching, bleaching, hole punching, etc. I am thinking of works such as Isadore Isou's Venom and Eternity (1951), less of Len Lye's Free Radicals (1958). Suggestions of works later than '62, up to say 1966 are also welcome [i.e. Carolee Schneemann Fuses (1965)] Thank you in advance, Madison Brookshire Los Angeles ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listi nfo/frameworks This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the intended recipient only. If you have received this email in error, please inform us immediately and then delete it. Unless it specifically states otherwise this email does not form part of a contract. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of University College Falmouth. You should carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. University College Falmouth accepts no liability for any loss or damage which may be caused by software viruses ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962
A couple of Croatian films I saw recently: - Termites by Milan Samec (1963) was made spiling developer over the film strip, creating random stains over it. - In Zlatko Hajdler's performance piece 'Kariokinesis' (1965) the artist slowed down the projector's speed so the film was burned by the lamp. Best, Marcos Fellow Frameworkers, Does anyone have suggestions for films 1945-1962 that create film imagery in a destructive way? e.g. scratching, bleaching, hole punching, etc. I am thinking of works such as Isadore Isou's Venom and Eternity (1951), less of Len Lye's Free Radicals (1958). Suggestions of works later than '62, up to say 1966 are also welcome [i.e. Carolee Schneemann Fuses (1965)] Thank you in advance, Madison Brookshire Los Angeles ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962
Not on topic, but related: There's a way in which certain uncontrolled practices of film bear witness to authenticity, as when reportage, think especially wartime footage, reflects the direct effect of the depicted events on the materiality of the film: the shake, unexpected light flare, etc. Similarly with documentary of drastic events: atomic bomb tests which go from black to pure white and then settle down showing the aftermath of the explosion. Chuck Kleinhans ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
