Re: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
On Aug 30, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Brook Hinton wrote: Yes. Oakland and SF combined are less than half the size of Chicago and a fraction of LA. San Francisco has well under a million people in a city with very limited space of the type that normally fosters underground art scenes. So on that level its not really a fair comparison. And given that, you have to give major props to the people that do make it happen, and especially those organizations that kept it going through the first dotcom boom, which permanently changed the cultural landscape of this city, completely wiped out a huge number of arts organizations and destroyed much of the framework for any real underground to exist at all. Brook This is just speculation on my part, but it's been widely reported that the suburbs are now increasingly the places where lower income folks can afford to live and not in the urban core: thus recent immigrants, people arriving from other regions of the US, the working class, and minorities of various kinds are entering the collar communities. The characteristic mix of art bohemia scenes might now be developing in the burbs? Can anyone report evidence of this in the US? Elsewhere? Chuck Kleinhans ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
This is just speculation on my part, but it's been widely reported that the suburbs are now increasingly the places where lower income folks can afford to live and not in the urban core: thus recent immigrants, people arriving from other regions of the US, the working class, and minorities of various kinds are entering the collar communities. The characteristic mix of art bohemia scenes might now be developing in the burbs? Can anyone report evidence of this in the US? Elsewhere? I think the burbs of the big cities in the US are definitely drawing immigrants and working class folks, but I think the young artists of today are more likely to move to cities that are emerging as new 'bohemian scenes' than settle for the burbs. Portland is certainly a perfect example of that, and I think Philadelphia, Baltimore, Pittsburgh fit that bill as well. I don't know how artists make it in cities like New York or San Francisco- I suppose people have alternate forms of income, as the cost of living in those places is insane. -matt ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- --- www.rodeofilmco.com --- ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Moving to San Francisco
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Brook Hinton bhin...@gmail.com wrote: The cost of living is high and it's a real challenge for any artist. That it is. There are many things I miss about SF, the cost of living is not one. Most people I know down there live in Oakland or other more affordable East Bay locations. Last time I look at the cost rent in some areas of Oakland, it too was getting expensive. Seems like one should pay less for living on a fault line, no? For the original poster... if you're in SF I recommend volunteering at Canyon Cinema... it's something I wish I would have done while living there. Alain -- 40 FRAMES Alain LeTourneau Pam Minty 40 FRAMES 5232 N Williams Ave Portland, Oregon 97217 USA +1 503 231 6548 www.40frames.org www.16mmdirectory.org www.emptyquarterfilm.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
