Re: [Frameworks] Quote of the Day

2020-05-03 Thread Robert Schaller 
I just read a story in the Thousand and One Nights, in which a prince survives 
many disasters in which others die, and was judged blameless because "so it was 
written."  I thought, that's an awfully convenient thing to be able to say if 
you happen to be one of those on top already!

Then I read Fransisco's criticism of Wilson, and find similar words in his 
objection.  This feels almost like a dream, this time we're in.  It seems to 
affirm the rather evocative description of the human condition in what Gene 
actually quoted from Wilson.  Time and life have become dreamlike, and the 
world notably chaotic.  I talked to a friend on the phone the other day, and 
felt like I had just seen him, in person -- but, no, it had only been a video 
conference.  Even though I know I've been home for almost two months, I had to 
think about it!

And I am grateful for Francisco's criticism, for it prodded me to at least 
minimally read more about E.O Wilson, whom I had really only known as a name.  
While I don't see it in this particular quotation, he lays out what seems like 
a reasonable line of criticism.  

> On May 2, 2020, at 11:21 PM, Francisco Torres  wrote:
> 
> It seems harsh to put the responsability of our current situation on
> all of humanity when actually it is the product of decisions taken
> since ancient times by those in power and not by anything like ''human
> nature''. If today the Amazon burns and African rainforest are razen
> it is because decisions taken in boardrooms and presidential palaces
> and, if we want to go further back, when Columbus and Da Gama got
> money and ships to ''discover'' America and Africa...
> 
> But that is a political view of history, one that seems to be rapidly
> being replaced by others like the one created by Mr. Edward O. Wilson,
> Sociobiology.  In Sociobiology we humans have no other choice but to
> compete against each other without any hope of ever getting out of the
> systems of control and explotation created by the state and capital.
> After all it is our genes who are on the driver seat, selfish genes
> who only care for their replication. So why despair about domination
> and destruction of all of nature then?  A very useful ideology to
> those sitting at the top of the heap because it makes them feel better
> by liberating them of responsability and for the rest of us who expect
> to accept the rule power as the only possible way of living. ''Dont
> worry, if it is just the way of nature, the strong survive and the
> weak perish, either on the forest or the stock market''. That sounds
> just like the words  the priestly caste have been feeding us since
> Babylon.
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>> “Humanity today  is 
>> like a waking dreamer, caught between the fantasies of sleep and the chaos 
>> of the real world. The mind seeks but cannot find the precise place and 
>> hour. We have created a Star Wars civilization, with Stone Age emotions, 
>> medieval institutions, and godlike technology. We thrash about. We are 
>> terribly confused by the mere fact of our existence, and a danger to 
>> ourselves and to the rest of life.”  
>>  ~ Edward O. Wilson
>> 
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[Frameworks] Landscapes and the Moving Image

2020-05-03 Thread Chris Lynn 
Hello Frameworkers,

I would like to pass on a wonderful new issue from Moving Image Artists Journal 
on Landscape and the Moving Image.Artists discuss their work in relation to 
nature and landscape. A wonderful read with plenty of links to films. I was 
thrilled to be asked to participate.
Thanks and stay safe and well.

MIA JOURNAL • ISSUE 2 • MAY 2020

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Welcome to the second issue of Moving Image Artists Journal! In this issue you 
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Re: [Frameworks] Quote of the Day

2020-05-03 Thread Francisco Torres 
What bothered me the most was-
''We have created a Star Wars civilization, with Stone Age emotions...''
''We''? Also I do not see ''stone age emotions'' as negative, we may
need more of those and less ''civilization''.

2020-05-03 19:51 GMT-04:00, Robert Schaller :
> I just read a story in the Thousand and One Nights, in which a prince
> survives many disasters in which others die, and was judged blameless
> because "so it was written."  I thought, that's an awfully convenient thing
> to be able to say if you happen to be one of those on top already!
>
> Then I read Fransisco's criticism of Wilson, and find similar words in his
> objection.  This feels almost like a dream, this time we're in.  It seems to
> affirm the rather evocative description of the human condition in what Gene
> actually quoted from Wilson.  Time and life have become dreamlike, and the
> world notably chaotic.  I talked to a friend on the phone the other day, and
> felt like I had just seen him, in person -- but, no, it had only been a
> video conference.  Even though I know I've been home for almost two months,
> I had to think about it!
>
> And I am grateful for Francisco's criticism, for it prodded me to at least
> minimally read more about E.O Wilson, whom I had really only known as a
> name.  While I don't see it in this particular quotation, he lays out what
> seems like a reasonable line of criticism.
>
>> On May 2, 2020, at 11:21 PM, Francisco Torres 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It seems harsh to put the responsability of our current situation on
>> all of humanity when actually it is the product of decisions taken
>> since ancient times by those in power and not by anything like ''human
>> nature''. If today the Amazon burns and African rainforest are razen
>> it is because decisions taken in boardrooms and presidential palaces
>> and, if we want to go further back, when Columbus and Da Gama got
>> money and ships to ''discover'' America and Africa...
>>
>> But that is a political view of history, one that seems to be rapidly
>> being replaced by others like the one created by Mr. Edward O. Wilson,
>> Sociobiology.  In Sociobiology we humans have no other choice but to
>> compete against each other without any hope of ever getting out of the
>> systems of control and explotation created by the state and capital.
>> After all it is our genes who are on the driver seat, selfish genes
>> who only care for their replication. So why despair about domination
>> and destruction of all of nature then?  A very useful ideology to
>> those sitting at the top of the heap because it makes them feel better
>> by liberating them of responsability and for the rest of us who expect
>> to accept the rule power as the only possible way of living. ''Dont
>> worry, if it is just the way of nature, the strong survive and the
>> weak perish, either on the forest or the stock market''. That sounds
>> just like the words  the priestly caste have been feeding us since
>> Babylon.
>> ___
>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com
>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>> 
>
>
>
>>> “Humanity today  is
>>> like a waking dreamer, caught between the fantasies of sleep and the
>>> chaos of the real world. The mind seeks but cannot find the precise place
>>> and hour. We have created a Star Wars civilization, with Stone Age
>>> emotions, medieval institutions, and godlike technology. We thrash about.
>>> We are terribly confused by the mere fact of our existence, and a danger
>>> to ourselves and to the rest of life.”
>>>~ Edward O. Wilson
>>>
>
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