Re: Queueing Behavior

2000-06-01 Thread Mark B. Elrod

I finally found a computer at the office that has this problem. i hope to track
it down soon.

elrod

Valters Vingolds wrote:

 Does drag-n-drop of file in musicbrowser from my music tree view to
 playlist view work yet?
 Should be equivalent of doubleclicking on song. Somehow I find it very
 intuitive to use drag-n-drop, but I was a bit annoyed when it didn't work.

 
 Now I have a question for you guys... since we are adding in streams
 support does it make sense to queue a stream? should the default
 behavior ffor a stream ALWAYS be play immediately?

 Well, no... if I want it queued, I mean it. I personally want player to
 play when I press Play, not before. I don't play streams that much, though.
 But I vote for streams to be considered ordinary files.

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Re: Modifying help files

2000-06-01 Thread Mark B. Elrod

What if we just use plain HTML for windows and launch the users browser of
choice just like we do on UNIX? I am sure we could write some code that would
allow us to have contextual help for the different dialogs... If we do this then
the same help could be used for most platforms and it can be changed only where
necessary... this is something we could shoot for for the next major release
after 2.1 (3.0 grin)...

elrod

Julie Belote wrote:

 Hello Mike,

 You have probably seen my last two emails regarding the help files and HTML.
 Yes, I can do all kinds of exporting, but all formats have some issues. So
 far no one has come up with a help system that works all the time for all
 platforms and browsers (regardless of marketing claims).

 RoboHelp uses the Microsoft Window's Help Complier.

 Julie

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  For the Window's builds I use a software tool called
  RoboHelp. It's not
  an
  "open source" program. However any help I build with it is
  licensed for

 Couldn't she do an export to RTF or HTML from RoboHelp?  It has to support
 that kind of stuff, and then maybe the files could be used in the regular
 help compiler for windows?

 just a thought...

 mike

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Re: Queueing Behavior

2000-06-01 Thread Chad Loder

I think happens on my machine, too.

Also, the order of queuing seems not to be intuitive, either. :P

 c

At 11:07 PM 5/31/2000 -0700, you wrote:
I finally found a computer at the office that has this problem. i hope to 
track
it down soon.

elrod

Valters Vingolds wrote:

  Does drag-n-drop of file in musicbrowser from my music tree view to
  playlist view work yet?
  Should be equivalent of doubleclicking on song. Somehow I find it very
  intuitive to use drag-n-drop, but I was a bit annoyed when it didn't work.
 
  
  Now I have a question for you guys... since we are adding in streams
  support does it make sense to queue a stream? should the default
  behavior ffor a stream ALWAYS be play immediately?
 
  Well, no... if I want it queued, I mean it. I personally want player to
  play when I press Play, not before. I don't play streams that much, though.
  But I vote for streams to be considered ordinary files.
 
  --
  Valters "WaTT" Vingolds
  ... in order to succeed you have to learn to think of yourself as of a
  product.
 
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Re: Help files

2000-06-01 Thread Chad Loder

Actually, the help files should be written in XML and then
translated to the platform-specific HTML format by automatic
means.

At 11:12 PM 5/31/2000 -0700, you wrote:
It would be nice to be able to use the same format for both platforms. Also I
know the Mac help system is now HTML... so is Be This would make
translations like Victor's easier too...

elrod

Joe Cosentino wrote:

  One thing is that FreeAmp could change to using HTML Help 
 files.  Micro$haft
  makes a HTML Help studio that is freely downloadable from their website.
  Plus, the HTML files are a hell of a lot easier to maintain than the RTF
  files.
 
  Just my 2c,
 
  Joe
 
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Re: Queueing Behavior

2000-06-01 Thread Mark B. Elrod

define "order of queueing"

elrod

Chad Loder wrote:

 I think happens on my machine, too.

 Also, the order of queuing seems not to be intuitive, either. :P

  c

 At 11:07 PM 5/31/2000 -0700, you wrote:
 I finally found a computer at the office that has this problem. i hope to
 track
 it down soon.
 
 elrod
 
 Valters Vingolds wrote:
 
   Does drag-n-drop of file in musicbrowser from my music tree view to
   playlist view work yet?
   Should be equivalent of doubleclicking on song. Somehow I find it very
   intuitive to use drag-n-drop, but I was a bit annoyed when it didn't work.
  
   
   Now I have a question for you guys... since we are adding in streams
   support does it make sense to queue a stream? should the default
   behavior ffor a stream ALWAYS be play immediately?
  
   Well, no... if I want it queued, I mean it. I personally want player to
   play when I press Play, not before. I don't play streams that much, though.
   But I vote for streams to be considered ordinary files.
  
   --
   Valters "WaTT" Vingolds
   ... in order to succeed you have to learn to think of yourself as of a
   product.
  
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Re: Help files

2000-06-01 Thread Chad Loder

We may want to base any XML help approach on JavaHelp. Sun
has defined a simple and general file format for platform
independent, context-sensitive help files. See
http://java.sun.com/products/javahelp/spec-1.0.pdf.

Obviously Freeamp is not implemented in Java, but it doesn't
appear that the raw XML format defined by Sun necessarily
implies use in Java programs.

We could use Sun's DTDs as a starting point for our approach.
It shouldn't be too hard for me to develop a standalone tool
that processes help files in this format and outputs some
intermediary files that can be fed to native, platform
specific helpfile distiller applications.

I must say that I personally don't feel like doing XML I/O
in anything other than Java (but since it's an auxiliary
support tool, I hope Java wouldn't be too much of a problem).

Anyone think this approach has merit?

 c
At 11:12 PM 5/31/2000 -0700, you wrote:
It would be nice to be able to use the same format for both platforms. Also I
know the Mac help system is now HTML... so is Be This would make
translations like Victor's easier too...

elrod

Joe Cosentino wrote:

  One thing is that FreeAmp could change to using HTML Help 
 files.  Micro$haft
  makes a HTML Help studio that is freely downloadable from their website.
  Plus, the HTML files are a hell of a lot easier to maintain than the RTF
  files.
 
  Just my 2c,
 
  Joe
 
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Re: About .... everything

2000-06-01 Thread Mayhem Chaos Coordinator

 I found freeamp recently and i really love it.

I'm glad you like it.

 Except for its numerous bugs and 20% more
 time consuming it beats winamp undoubtedly.
 Speed isn't something you should worry about
 (too much) but bugs  maybe you should clear
 all bugs before implementing new features...

Well, the tough part about fixing the bugs is that we don't really know what
they all are yet.

 About 2.1beta1
 2) there are still warnings wich could  should be resolved with casts
 (i think it's faster to do it yourself than to implement my changes
 so i'm not sending anything)
 3) you're not killing threads correctly. after few minutes there is more
 than 400 active threads

I haven't seen this happen -- does it still happen with beta 3? Beta 3 will
be released within a few hours -- please check it out.

 OK, this was a bug report. (Sorry, but I hate bugzilla.)

We would really prefer you to use bugzilla to report bugs. This way you will
not report bugs that have already been reported (and fixed!), which will
save you and us time.

 There are more bugs, but I'd like to have beta2 to continue testing.

Check out beta 3 -- the bugs you've mentioned may have already been fixed.

--ruaok   Hindsight is always 50/50.

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Re: after compile in VC6++

2000-06-01 Thread Mayhem Chaos Coordinator

 "Error, there isn't this file VSC6OD.dll", obviously if I had this file I
 can run without problem, but if I want redistribuite it to all my friends,
 all they will need this file, how can I do to fix it (for dont asking for
 this file)?

If you choose your build target to be the NASM Release and then rebuild the
entire codebase before giving it to friends, it should not ask for that file
anymore.


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Re: after compile in VC6++

2000-06-01 Thread Mark B. Elrod

Also if you have the build toolbar showing you can choose which project is the
actve and which version to build by using the dropdowns.

if you use the SAet Active Configuration from the Build menu choose "FreeAmp -
NASM Release"

elrod

Chad Loder wrote:

 Rob wrote "If you choose your build target to be the NASM Release...",
 so if that's what you want, then choose that one.

 Then rebuild.

  c

 At 02:10 PM 5/31/2000 -0500, you wrote:
 there I have:
 x-Win 32  Release
 x-Win 32 Debug
 x-Win 32 NASM release
 x-win 32 NASM Debug
 
 x=faselib, etc.
 
 Then?
 
 Thanks
 Victor
 
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 Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:55 PM
 Subject: RE: after compile in VC6++
 
 
   Choose "Set Active Configuration" from the "Build" menu
   in VC++.
  
c
  
   At 01:45 PM 5/31/2000 -0500, you wrote:
  
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   From: Mayhem  Chaos Coordinator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:16 PM
   Subject: Re: after compile in VC6++

 If you choose your build target to be the NASM Release and then
 rebuild
   the
 entire codebase before giving it to friends, it should not ask for
 that
   file
 anymore.
   
   How  can I choose it?
   
   victor
   
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[ANNOUNCE] FreeAmp 2.1 beta 3

2000-06-01 Thread Mark B. Elrod

Beta 3 is now available on our website. Sorry again for the delay
between releasing beta 1 and this release. I think we have solved the
release issues we were having.

We have fixed a lot of the baddies in beta 1 but rumor has it there are
still bugs lurking in our beloved product... please pound on this and
let us know about them.

elrod

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] FreeAmp 2.1 beta 3

2000-06-01 Thread Isaac Richards

I'd just like to say that in beta 3, the very frequent, very random crashes in
the unix beta 1 _should_ be fixed.  It's usable again =)

Isaac

At 04:15 PM 6/1/00 , you wrote:
Beta 3 is now available on our website. Sorry again for the delay
between releasing beta 1 and this release. I think we have solved the
release issues we were having.

We have fixed a lot of the baddies in beta 1 but rumor has it there are
still bugs lurking in our beloved product... please pound on this and
let us know about them.

elrod

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RE: [ANNOUNCE] FreeAmp 2.1 beta 3

2000-06-01 Thread Michael Rich

 We have fixed a lot of the baddies in beta 1 but rumor has it
 there are
 still bugs lurking in our beloved product... please pound on this and
 let us know about them.

Does this mean I can't watch the thread count for freeamp.exe jump to over
100 anymore?  :)


mike

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] FreeAmp 2.1 beta 3

2000-06-01 Thread Mark B. Elrod

sad to say, but you will have to find other ways to amuse yourself grin

elrod

Michael Rich wrote:

  We have fixed a lot of the baddies in beta 1 but rumor has it
  there are
  still bugs lurking in our beloved product... please pound on this and
  let us know about them.

 Does this mean I can't watch the thread count for freeamp.exe jump to over
 100 anymore?  :)

 mike

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