Re: About FreeBSD.org visitors
Christopher Henderson wrote: Hello Unix Fans, I'm an on again/off again BSD/Linux user. I'll spend a few years in one, then the other, etc. I'm getting the FreeBSD itch again so I visited the website. One big problem for me is that there is no obvious link from the front page listing supported hardware. I finally stumbled upon the release notes but its just a flat text file. Why not HTML? I hated having to scroll through it to find out if my wifi card is supported (Alas, it is not. But OpenBSD supports it.). Yes, I just went that route searching for a driver, hard work, have a look at http://www.berklix.org/~jhs/txt/driver_search.html Turns out one wireless driver (urtwn, Realtek RTL8188CU/RTL8192CU USB IEEE 802.11b/g/n, Belkin F7D1102 Surf Wireless Micro D-Link DWA-131 Edimax EW-7811Un Netgear WNA1000M Realtek RTL8192CU Realtek RTL8188CUS ) was never put in 9 but is in FreeBSD 10 Alpha release, if you'r luck may be the same one I found. I just downloaded a 10 .iso alpha to try. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-advocacy-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: About FreeBSD.org visitors
On 4/10/2013 1:38 AM, Rodrigo OSORIO wrote: Maybe the question is : have they found what they are looking for ? Thats a good question Rodrigo and right on point. Bounce rates, without also identifying *legitimate* (and/or desirable) exit points cant alone help us determine if a user has achieved their objective or not. Among other things, marking actions on pages with GA labels will differentiate many of these cases from the pathological and begins to place 'our user goals' *first* as the primary definition of success. You cant manage or improve what you dont measure. -- Koobs ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-advocacy-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: About FreeBSD.org visitors
Hi, On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 12:17:34 +1100 Kubilay Kocak koobs.free...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/10/2013 1:38 AM, Rodrigo OSORIO wrote: Maybe the question is : have they found what they are looking for ? Thats a good question Rodrigo and right on point. Bounce rates, without also identifying *legitimate* (and/or desirable) exit points cant alone help us determine if a user has achieved their objective or not. I am one of the many 'bounced' users. The front page shows already very often what I want to know. Security notes, the current supported versions and news. Why should I read then things I am not interested in? But there is something missing. There is no 'entry' point for potential new users. Among other things, marking actions on pages with GA labels will differentiate many of these cases from the pathological and begins to place 'our user goals' *first* as the primary definition of success. You cant manage or improve what you dont measure. I disagree here. A website is not a piece of engineering. Erich ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-advocacy-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: About FreeBSD.org visitors
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Erich Dollansky erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com wrote: Among other things, marking actions on pages with GA labels will differentiate many of these cases from the pathological and begins to place 'our user goals' *first* as the primary definition of success. You cant manage or improve what you dont measure. I disagree here. A website is not a piece of engineering. Yes it is. Of a different type. Here is an introduction to the topic of Website Engineering: http://www.nngroup.com/articles/usability-101-introduction-to-usability/ -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-advocacy-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: About FreeBSD.org visitors
On 6/10/2013 1:29 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 12:17:34 +1100 Kubilay Kocak koobs.free...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/10/2013 1:38 AM, Rodrigo OSORIO wrote: Maybe the question is : have they found what they are looking for ? Thats a good question Rodrigo and right on point. Bounce rates, without also identifying *legitimate* (and/or desirable) exit points cant alone help us determine if a user has achieved their objective or not. I am one of the many 'bounced' users. The front page shows already very often what I want to know. Security notes, the current supported versions and news. Why should I read then things I am not interested in? You shouldnt, though im intrigued as to who or what gave you the impression that you should? :) But there is something missing. There is no 'entry' point for potential new users. +1 on this point. Additionally, new users are but one dimension of one demographic of a diverse customer base. You want to see understand the forest *and* the trees. Among other things, marking actions on pages with GA labels will differentiate many of these cases from the pathological and begins to place 'our user goals' *first* as the primary definition of success. You cant manage or improve what you dont measure. I disagree here. A website is not a piece of engineering. If by engineering you mean not serving a purely technical endeavour, I can't agree more. Understanding your audience and their goals however, requires effort *and* intentional intrumentation (I use this term intentionally by technical analogy), whether that takes the form of surveys, feedback forms, social engagement, PR's, forums or otherwise. User interaction with our biggest front-of-house is just one more example, and where we can make the biggest impact. Koobs ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-advocacy-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: About FreeBSD.org visitors
Hi, On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:06:55 +1100 Kubilay Kocak koobs.free...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/10/2013 1:29 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 12:17:34 +1100 Kubilay Kocak koobs.free...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/10/2013 1:38 AM, Rodrigo OSORIO wrote: Maybe the question is : have they found what they are looking for ? Thats a good question Rodrigo and right on point. Bounce rates, without also identifying *legitimate* (and/or desirable) exit points cant alone help us determine if a user has achieved their objective or not. I am one of the many 'bounced' users. The front page shows already very often what I want to know. Security notes, the current supported versions and news. Why should I read then things I am not interested in? You shouldnt, though im intrigued as to who or what gave you the impression that you should? :) the content of the first e-mail in this threat. It gives the impression that the site is bad because some 50% 'bounce'. But there is something missing. There is no 'entry' point for potential new users. +1 on this point. Additionally, new users are but one dimension of one demographic of a diverse customer base. You want to see understand the forest *and* the trees. Among other things, marking actions on pages with GA labels will differentiate many of these cases from the pathological and begins to place 'our user goals' *first* as the primary definition of success. You cant manage or improve what you dont measure. I disagree here. A website is not a piece of engineering. If by engineering you mean not serving a purely technical endeavour, I can't agree more. I consider the front ends always as design and would never allow an engineer to do one. Let the engineers build the cars but let designers design them. Would you like to drive a car like the Tin Lizzy? Erich ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-advocacy-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: About FreeBSD.org visitors
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 12:31 AM, Erich Dollansky erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com wrote: the content of the first e-mail in this threat. It gives the impression that the site is bad because some 50% 'bounce'. Mea Culpa. My entire email was meant to be informative and provoke questions - not to say that any one stat was good or bad. I did not mean to imply that bounce = bad. I consider the front ends always as design and would never allow an engineer to do one. Let the engineers build the cars but let designers design them. Would you like to drive a car like the Tin Lizzy? Design needs to be driven by data. -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-advocacy-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
