Re: Why no SAP nor DB2 on FreeBSD ?

2009-09-28 Thread Saifi Khan
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, Ivan Voras wrote:

 Saifi Khan wrote:
  Hi all:
  
  In continuation of my investigation of Oracle, i also noticed
  that there is:
   . no SAP for FreeBSD
   . no DB2 for FreeBSD
   . no Sybase ASE for FreeBSD
   . no Informix for FreeBSD 
  
  Discouing PostgreSql installations, effectively enterprise
  database setups have given FreeBSD a miss. 
  What could be reason for this ?
 
 An obvious guess would be that the userbase is too small and that makes
 it unprofitable to support the products on FreeBSD.
 

Thanks for providing the perspective on the issue.

Here is a rather straight query, how do we grow the userbase ?


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2008 EuroBSDCon PDF and Audio ?

2009-09-28 Thread Saifi Khan
Hi:

Every year the EuroBSDCon has a new host site and the slides and
audio/video seem to go missing after a while.

i'm trying to locate the stuff in 2009, about the 2008 EuroBSDCon 
talks page at http://2008.eurobsdcon.org/talks.html

Does anybody know how the various slides and audio/video can be
retrieved ?

Please excuse me as i am a newbie and was wondering if there is
a technical reason for not having the slides and media stuff
consolidated at a single site ?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: why no Oracle on FreeBSD ?

2009-09-26 Thread Saifi Khan
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009, Chad Perrin wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 09:15:43PM +0530, Saifi Khan wrote:
  
  i noticed that there is no Oracle available for FreeBSD
  http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/index.html
 
 I unfortunately don't have anything to offer as a direct answer to that,
 other than perhaps Oracle's short-sightedness.
 
 I wonder why you ask, though.  Do you plan to use Oracle for some
 specific real world purpose?  Are you simply trying to learn about
 Oracle?  Are you just curious about the lack of Oracle for FreeBSD?
 

Here is some background to help you understand the requirement:

i was conducting a system administration session for some IT
admins and managers, here in Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, INDIA.

One of the folks has a PostgreSQL on FreeBSD setup running since
last 4 yrs without any issues. They have recently received
Oracle database server and need to set up on Windows 2003
server. 

Since the folks have prior experience with FreeBSD it seemed
logical to try and setup Oracle on FreeBSD on IBM x-series
server.

i was particularly interested since the acquisition dataset 
growth rate was like 30-50 GB per week, stored on a SAN. 


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Re: Why no SAP nor DB2 on FreeBSD ?

2009-09-26 Thread Saifi Khan
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Marius N?nnerich wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 08:57, Saifi Khan saifi.k...@datasynergy.org wrote:
  Hi all:
 
  In continuation of my investigation of Oracle, i also noticed
  that there is:
   . no SAP for FreeBSD
   . no DB2 for FreeBSD
   . no Sybase ASE for FreeBSD
   . no Informix for FreeBSD
 
  Discouing PostgreSql installations, effectively enterprise
  database setups have given FreeBSD a miss.
  What could be reason for this ?
 
 Same answer as last time: Please ask the respective vendors and report back.
 

This cannot be accidental. So this time, i've taken a two-pronged approach.
1. checking information on vendor sites and with contacts.
2. close analysis of discussions on freebsd-hackers during 2003-2005 time frame.


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Re: why no Oracle on FreeBSD ?

2009-09-25 Thread Saifi Khan
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Julian H. Stacey wrote:

i noticed that there is no Oracle available for FreeBSD
http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/index.html

What could be the reason for that ?
   
   Best ask direct of commercial application vendor Oracle.
   IE wave money under Oracle's nose  ask to purchase what you want.
   
   If Oracle think there's enough profit in it, there's many BSD
   consultants eg http://berklix.com/consultants/ willing to work.
   
   Cheers,
   Julian
   -- 
  
  i was wondering if there is any technical reason behind this ?
 
 Most unlikely. Ask Oracle  tell advocacy@ what you find out.
 I'd bet perceived market share  demand as ever, ie Money.
 

Hi Julian:

Here is the response on the Oracle forum thread to my posting,



FreeBSD is a kernel not used in any extant operating system with
the sole exception being Apple's Mac OSX so you are heading,
full speed ahead, toward disappointment. FreeBSD handles many
things very differently from the UNIX System 5 standard so you
can not just kludge your way into this.

What fascinates me about your request is why you care. FreeBSD
is going nowhere at a staggeringly fast pace. And to the same
place as went Oracle Database version 8.0. Obscurity.

Install Oracle's Enterprise Linux and you will have a real
operating system in less time than you've spent monitoring this
thead. And as an additional value it will support the Oracle
technology stack while you are still young enough to use it.


and

IF you can match up the system calls, then you can 'make it
work'. 


The relevant  links are
1.  http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=952076tstart=0
2.  http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=952076tstart=0 

The response seems to suggest that there is some feature used by
Oracle which is expected from a UNIX Sys 5 std and perhaps
FreeBSD does not support/have the syscall.

Given the response, What is your analysis of the situation ?


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Saifi.

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why no Oracle on FreeBSD ?

2009-09-24 Thread Saifi Khan
Hi:

This is a newbie query.

i noticed that there is no Oracle available for FreeBSD
http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/index.html

What could be the reason for that ?


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Re: why no Oracle on FreeBSD ?

2009-09-24 Thread Saifi Khan
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Julian H. Stacey wrote:

 Saifi Khan wrote:
  Hi:
  
  This is a newbie query.
  
  i noticed that there is no Oracle available for FreeBSD
  http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/index.html
  
  What could be the reason for that ?
 
 Best ask direct of commercial application vendor Oracle.
 IE wave money under Oracle's nose  ask to purchase what you want.
 
 If Oracle think there's enough profit in it, there's many BSD
 consultants eg http://berklix.com/consultants/ willing to work.
 
 Cheers,
 Julian
 -- 

i was wondering if there is any technical reason behind this ?


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Re: EuroBSDCon 2009 pictures

2009-09-23 Thread Saifi Khan
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Robert Watson wrote:

 
 On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Saifi Khan wrote:
 
  Thanks, the pictures are awesome.
  
  Did you write any blog/tweet about your experiences ?
  
  How was the interaction and enthusiasm level at the conference ?
 
 Probably in appropriate to generalize, but this was the largest ever FreeBSD
 developer summit in .EU (70 or so attendees), and EuroBSDCon came in around
 180 attendees, which is up from last year (don't have precise numbers).  Our
 conference dinner, sponsored by iXsystems, (photos of Clare college in the
 various collections) was sold out at 150 with a waiting list.
 
 We did have some trouble fund-raising for the conference, as a number of
 companies we approached reported that they currently had travel/conference
 freezes due to the economy.  However, it being a poor economic year that
 didn't seem to prevent people from having a good time (although it likely did
 limit attendees from further way).
 
 Fairly soon, we should have slides, papers, and audio recordings of many of
 the sessions on the UKUUG web site, and it looks like the Karlsruhe folk are
 already warming up for EuroBSDCon 2010 :-).
 
 For those of us in the UK, I think this is a good moment to remind ourselves
 that there is a lot of BSD-related work, BSD-based companies, and BSD
 development in the UK (especially FreeBSD).  I know I chatted with many other
 folk from the UK who all basically said you know, we should do this more
 often, so perhaps this will trigger more regular UK-based BSD events!
 

Thanks Robert for the informative mail.

Wondering if there is any group photo of FreeBSD dev, something
along the lines of
http://www.postgresql.org/files/community/conference06/conference_group.jpg
Would you know ?

Is the BSD-related work in UK, about new product development on
BSD platform or a enterprise systems maintenance stuff ?

Certainly more events will help promote *BSD, which is a good
thing.


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Saifi.

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Re: EuroBSDCon 2009 pictures

2009-09-23 Thread Saifi Khan
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote:

 Saifi Khan saifi.k...@datasynergy.org writes:
  Wondering if there is any group photo of FreeBSD dev [...]
 
 You'd have to get all 350 of us in the same place at the same time...
 
 DES
 -- 
 Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav - d...@des.no
 

In that case it may be a good idea to start with some group
photo and then create a collage of photos that capture as many
folks as possible.

You may have see
 photovisi.com
 photomix.com

i'm sure it would be fun if the *BSD community pools in and
would also help folks warm up ;-)


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Re: bsdevents on Twitter

2009-03-11 Thread Saifi Khan
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009, Dru Lavigne wrote:

 
 Hi everyone,
 
 I've created a twitter account @bsdevents (https://twitter.com/bsdevents) 
 which is meant to be a one-stop-shop for all BSD-related events such as:
 
 * BSD conferences
 * events where there will be a BSD booth
 or presentation
 * BSD user group meetings
 (including UUGs and LUGs with BSD representation)
 * BSD training
 
 * discussion on events needing a BSD booth, booth buddies, or swag
 * links to promotional material regarding BSD
 
 For those who prefer RSS to twitter, the feed is at 
 https://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/23451058.rss
 
 I'm also experimenting with hootsuite.com which allows for multiple
 editors on one twitter account. Ping me if you'd like editor status in order 
 to help keep @bsdevents populated with upcoming global BSD events or if 
 you're aware of an upcoming event that isn't listed.
 
 Cheers,
 Dru

Hi Dru:

Thank you for the fantastic initiative. This is really very
cool.

Is there a service, wherein one can post a single update
(twitter size) and it sort of goes to
  . orkut BSD
  . twitter BSD
  . facebook BSD
  . upcoming.yahoo BSD
  . google calendar BSD
  . ning BSD
  . blogspot BSD
  . identi.ca BSD
  . digg BSD
  . etc
  . forum BSD

With this approach there will be a consistent message seen
across the various web touch points.

What do you think ?


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BSD Certification in India

2009-03-11 Thread Saifi Khan
Hi all:

Is there any BSD Certification service available in India ?


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Saifi.
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