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--- Comment #18 from Mark Millard  ---
(In reply to Vladislav V. Prodan from comment #17)

It might be worth leaving notes here about what
combination of adjustments for ZFS proved
sufficient for your example context if you find
a combination that does work.

Finding information about settings for such
contexts seems difficult.

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--- Comment #17 from Vladislav V. Prodan  ---
Thank you for reminding me, now I will edit the ZFS memory consumption settings
for such a small amount of RAM after the installation script.

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--- Comment #16 from Mark Millard  ---
(In reply to Mark Millard from comment #15)

Sorry: "compiles or link sa hake more space" should
be "compiles or links that take more space".

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--- Comment #15 from Mark Millard  ---
(In reply to Vladislav V. Prodan from comment #14)

I did not think to ask about ZFS use or its ARC
memory use.

My figures and experience are for UFS contexts that use
less memory.

So, under default tuning of ZFS, my judgments are probably
significant underestimates of the memory use.

I'm afraid I've no clue how to tune with ZFS involved. I
can only suggest trying to use less memory and/or having
even more swap.

The combination:

Mem: 145M Active, 51M Inact, 12M Laundry, 1395M Wired, 352M Free
ARC: 1013M Total
100537 root 780   200M   148M RUN  0:03  23.00% c++
(so 148M resident of 200M size)

Looks messy for the activity. Just the 1395M Wired leaves you only
something like (based on RAM+SWAP) 2560M - 1395M == 1165M space
for more and there can be compiles or link sa hake more space than
that.

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--- Comment #14 from Vladislav V. Prodan  ---
I set 1 CPU in this VM and am trying to make world and a custom kernel in one
thread.


P.S. I have always used swap as a disk partition. 


# swapinfo -h
Device  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity
/dev/gpt/swap-ada0512000 209M 291M42%

root@vb-12:~ # top -PSTH -b 10
last pid: 92497;  load averages:  1.01,  1.07,  1.03  up 0+04:15:0822:46:09
475 threads:   4 running, 457 sleeping, 14 waiting
CPU: 84.3% user,  0.0% nice,  6.7% system,  0.3% interrupt,  8.8% idle
Mem: 145M Active, 51M Inact, 12M Laundry, 1395M Wired, 352M Free
ARC: 1013M Total, 318M MFU, 542M MRU, 2080K Anon, 13M Header, 139M Other
 744M Compressed, 2030M Uncompressed, 2.73:1 Ratio
Swap: 500M Total, 209M Used, 290M Free, 41% Inuse

   THR USERNAMEPRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIMEWCPU COMMAND
100537 root 780   200M   148M RUN  0:03  23.00% c++
13 root155 ki31 0B16K RUN 21:52   0.00% idle
100203 root-12- 0B  5088K -2:06   0.00%
zpool-zroot{zio_write_issue}
100037 root-96- 0B   224K WAIT 0:34   0.00% intr{irq21:
pcm0 ahci0}
100020 root-76- 0B   400K -0:28   0.00%
kernel{if_io_tqg_0}
100078 root-16- 0B16K -0:21   0.00% rand_harvestq
10 root-16- 0B   400K swapin   0:20   0.00% kernel{swapper}
100022 root-76- 0B   400K -0:15   0.00%
kernel{if_config_tqg_0}
100492 root 200   194M  8812K RUN  0:13   0.00% tmux
100044 root-92- 0B   224K WAIT 0:12   0.00% intr{irq19:
em0:irq0+}

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--- Comment #13 from Mark Millard  ---
(In reply to Vladislav V. Prodan from comment #12)

You do not indicate if your buildworld buildkernel
was using -j1 or some other -jN figure. The larger
the N the more memory space required.

> Swap: 500M Total, 106M Used, 394M Free, 21% Inuse

This can change far more rapidly than you can get
updates to be displayed.

Also, if the requested swap space is larger than the
free space, the used figure will not go to zero
temporarily but instead will stay unchanged.

But it does help to have very frequent output to get
an idea if one is getting close to running out. But
the display has to have started before the problem
occurs.

Technically there can be allocation failures for
internal tracking reasons instead of just the swap
space on media.

Having only around 400M free is not much margin for
the swap space.


> RAM  - 2GB
> SWAP - 500MB

Having RAM+SWAP be only 2.5GB has be a problem for
various vintages of FreeBSD, even for -j1 in
some cases. But I do not have specifics for
stable/12 -r369250 .

> swap_pager_getswapspace(32): failed

This type of message means that you really did
reach the swap space limit (or an internal tracking
limit). Material was kept in RAM that it was
trying to write out to swap.

As far as I can tell, you need either a smaller -jN
figure or for the RAM+SWAP to be larger (or some
combination of such).

Also, are you using a swap partition(s)? A swap file?
I strongly suggest only using partition(s) for swap.
See https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=206048
for why.

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--- Comment #12 from Vladislav V. Prodan  ---
# uname -a
FreeBSD vb-12.2.0.domain.com 12.2-STABLE FreeBSD 12.2-STABLE r369250 GENERIC 
amd64

# uname -KU
1202505 1202505

RAM  - 2GB
SWAP - 500MB

These options didn't help: 
vm.pageout_oom_seq=120
vm.pfault_oom_attempts=-1

We have an unfilled SWAP 
Swap: 500M Total, 106M Used, 394M Free, 21% Inuse

Constant warnings to the console and after a while one of the processes
responsible for buildworld is killed:

swap_pager_getswapspace(32): failed
swap_pager_getswapspace(3): failed
swap_pager_getswapspace(5): failed
swap_pager_getswapspace(6): failed
swap_pager_getswapspace(32): failed
swap_pager_getswapspace(2): failed
swap_pager_getswapspace(32): failed
pid 73372 (c++), jid 0, uid 0, was killed: out of swap space
swap_pager_getswapspace(32): failed
swap_pager_getswapspace(28): failed
swap_pager_getswapspace(32): failed

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--- Comment #11 from Mark Millard  ---
(In reply to Mark Millard from comment #7)

[I've been updating old notes in this area with
recent results from a 1 GiByte RAM context: an
RPi3. It can do a head -j4 buildworld buildkernel
when appropriately configured. Material copied to
below from another place I updated.]

I've tried a 1 GiByte aarch64 context for a -j4
buildworld buildkernel . . .

I had a RPi3 that was based on head -r358966 do a
build world buildkernel of the same version, from
scratch, -j4 style. The RPi3 is a 1 GiByte RAM
context. I had 3072 GiBytes for the swap partition.
That ,and the ufs file system, were on a USB SSD,
not the microsd card.

The build completed without any /var/log/message or
console output during the build. My modified version
of top reported (details copied from a ssh window) . . .

For Mem: 738512Ki MaxObsActive, 190608Ki MaxObsWired, 906372Ki MaxObs(Act+Wir)
For Swap:  1927Mi MaxObsUsed

(top was started before the build. "MaxObs" is short
for "Maximum Observed".)

The build took a few minutes under 31 hrs.

The build used (my PINE64 media are also set up
to boot the RPi3, explaining some naming):

vm.pageout_oom_seq=120
vm.pfault_oom_attempts=-1
vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/gpt/PINE642Groot"
dumpdev="/dev/gpt/PINE642Gswp2"
/dev/gpt/PINE642Groot   /   ufs rw,noatime  1 1
/dev/gpt/PINE642Gswap   noneswap sw 0 0

(So this avoided the microsd card for ufs and
swap/page space.)

Overall, it looks like having more than 2 GiBytes
of swap partition is appropriate for -j4 : 1927
MiByte is not much less than 2048 MiByte.

But, with appropriate configuration anyway, the
RPi3 can do buildworld buildkernel for head 13,
even -j4 style.

This was aarch64. armv7 style with 1 GiByte RAM
does not allow as much swap/page space without
complaining at boot. It does not appear that
such a -j4 build would be appropriate for armv7.
But I've not investigated what would fit.

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--- Comment #10 from matthias.frei...@tutanota.com ---
*** Bug 231123 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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   See Also||https://bugs.freebsd.org/bu
   ||gzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2304
   ||02,
   ||https://bugs.freebsd.org/bu
   ||gzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2304
   ||54
   Severity|Affects Only Me |Affects Some People

--- Comment #9 from Mark Linimon  ---
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I've changed the "affects only me" status but honestly twiddling that knob
doesn't really do anything.

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--- Comment #8 from Mark Millard  ---
(In reply to Mark Millard from comment #7)

Other bugzilla's are: 230402 230454.

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--- Comment #7 from Mark Millard  ---
(In reply to Mark Millard from comment #6)

As of updating to -r337400 the Pine64+ 2GB no
longer will boot from the e.MMC on the microsd
adapter card. (I switched to tracking fully
modern dts use, u-boot, etc.)

So I tried a build via a USB SSD as the root
file system and swap partition. As reported in:

https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arm/2018-August/018605.html

it failed with an OOM kill.

This should have avoided I/O latency problems being
involved. (That message is part of a long on-going
thread tied to OOM kills, most of the reports involving
large I/O latencies being involved.)

I can not change the "Affects Only Me status.

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--- Comment #6 from Mark Millard  ---
(In reply to Mark Millard from comment #5)

The Pine64+ 2GiB finished the buildworld buildkernel in
a little under 19.5 hr.

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--- Comment #5 from Mark Millard  ---
(In reply to tschweikle from comment #1)

Some characteristics of the environment
not mentioned are:

How many processors/cores/threads?
What sort of value for -j for the buildworld/buildkernel.

For reference (but only a partial result so far):

I currently have a smaller aarch64 context building world
and kernel (4 core Pine64+ 2GiB, -j4, UFS, Swap 3584M).
Before this I updated to -r333079. The -r333079 was a jump
from materials from around the beginning of the year and was
done via a cross build. I then used poudriere-devel and pkg
to update ports (1 builder but allowing all 4 cores to be
used in a builder). It survived the somewhat over 29 hr
build of the 101 involved ports, 14.5 hr or so being for
devel/llvm60 . So far it is 10 hr or so into the -j4
buildworld and shows no problems yet, but it will be some
time before it is done if it finishes okay. I'll report.

(I use a 128 GiB emmc on an adapter instead of using a
normal usdcard.)

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It is interesting that you have examples of both contexts.

For the UFS context, if you can somehow get to -r331879 or later (or at least
test with such a version), you might get past the problem for that context.

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--- Comment #3 from tschwei...@gmail.com ---
Two systems, one zfs, one ufs, same problem

ZFS-System:
- 4GiB RAM, 8GiB Swap

# zfs get all zroot
NAME   PROPERTY  VALUE  SOURCE
zroot  type  filesystem -
zroot  creation  Fri Oct 10 16:32 2014  -
zroot  used  14.8G  -
zroot  available 25.7G  -
zroot  referenced919M   -
zroot  compressratio 1.15x  -
zroot  mounted   yes-
zroot  quota none   default
zroot  reservation   none   default
zroot  recordsize128K   default
zroot  mountpointlegacy local
zroot  sharenfs  offdefault
zroot  checksum  fletcher4  local
zroot  compression   offdefault
zroot  atime on default
zroot  devices   on default
zroot  exec  on default
zroot  setuidon default
zroot  readonly  offdefault
zroot  jailedoffdefault
zroot  snapdir   hidden default
zroot  aclmode   discarddefault
zroot  aclinheritrestricted default
zroot  canmount  on default
zroot  xattr offtemporary
zroot  copies1  default
zroot  version   5  -
zroot  utf8only  off-
zroot  normalization none   -
zroot  casesensitivity   sensitive  -
zroot  vscan offdefault
zroot  nbmandoffdefault
zroot  sharesmb  offdefault
zroot  refquota  none   default
zroot  refreservationnone   default
zroot  primarycache  alldefault
zroot  secondarycachealldefault
zroot  usedbysnapshots   0  -
zroot  usedbydataset 919M   -
zroot  usedbychildren13.9G  -
zroot  usedbyrefreservation  0  -
zroot  logbias   latencydefault
zroot  dedup offdefault
zroot  mlslabel -
zroot  sync  standard   default
zroot  refcompressratio  1.00x  -
zroot  written   919M   -
zroot  logicalused   14.7G  -
zroot  logicalreferenced 905M   -
zroot  volmode   defaultdefault
zroot  filesystem_limit  none   default
zroot  snapshot_limitnone   default
zroot  filesystem_count  none   default
zroot  snapshot_countnone   default
zroot  redundant_metadataalldefault

#zfs list
NAMEUSED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
zroot  14.8G  25.7G   919M  legacy
zroot/home  192K  25.7G96K  /home
zroot/home/sct-muc   96K  25.7G96K  /home/sct-muc
zroot/tmp   188M  25.7G   188M  /tmp
zroot/usr  10.1G  25.7G  3.88G  /usr
zroot/usr/ports3.59G  25.7G  2.76G  /usr/ports
zroot/usr/ports/distfiles   853M  25.7G   853M  /usr/ports/distfiles
zroot/usr/ports/packages 96K  25.7G96K  /usr/ports/packages
zroot/usr/src  2.66G  25.7G  2.66G  /usr/src
zroot/var  3.52G  25.7G  3.09G  /var
zroot/var/crash 194M  25.7G   194M  /var/crash
zroot/var/db241M  25.7G   196M  /var/db
zroot/var/db/pkg   45.0M  25.7G  45.0M  /var/db/pkg
zroot/var/empty  96K  25.7G96K  /var/empty
zroot/var/log  8.85M  25.7G  8.85M  /var/log
zroot/var/mail  120K  25.7G   120K  /var/mail
zroot/var/run   184K  25.7G   184K  /var/run
zroot/var/tmp   172K  25.7G   172K  /var/tmp

#zpool status
  pool: zroot
 state: ONLINE
status: Some supported features are not enabled on the pool. The pool can
still be used, but some features are unavailable.
action: Enable all features using 'zpool upgrade'. Once this is done,
the pool may no longer be accessible by software that does not support
the features. See zpool-features(7) for details.
  scan: scrub canceled on Fri Apr 20 12:54:12 2018
config:

 

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--- Comment #2 from Mark Millard  ---
Given the exchanges on the lists about such, you are likely to be asked about
the
configuration: Is ZFS involved? Just UFS?

Most of the reports are tied to ZFS-involved contexts. There have been some
where ZFS was not involved but UFS was. (-r331879 may have largely taken care
of no-ZFS contexts.)

There may be more context/environment information requested as well.

The reported problems are not limited to buildworld buildkernel sorts of
activity,
but definitely include examples of such activity.

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--- Comment #1 from tschwei...@gmail.com ---
checking out sources, then configuring, then compiling tools, then world.
Compiling wold fails with out of swap space. In some rare cases compiling world
succeeds, but then compiling kernel fails. I never got both: world an kernel.

Swap is 8GiByte, RAM is 4GiByte.

FreeBSD fbsd12.bfs.de 12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #0 r330841: Wed Mar 14
09:29:53 CET 2018
r...@fbsd12.bfs.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/FBSD12  amd64

Last world and kernel compile succeeded was Wed Mar 14 09:29:53 CET 2018
svn release r330841

Later tries ended all with out of swap space:
[...]
Root mount waiting for: usbus1 usbus0
ugen0.2:  at usbus0
ugen0.3:  at usbus0
uhub2 on uhub1
uhub2:  on usbus0
Root mount waiting for: usbus1 usbus0
uhub0: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
uhub2: 7 ports with 7 removable, self powered
VMware memory control driver initialized
intsmb0:  port 0x1040-0x104f at device 7.3 on pci0
intsmb0: intr SMI disabled revision 0
smbus0:  on intsmb0
uhid0 on uhub1
uhid0:  on usbus0
uhid1 on uhub1
uhid1:  on usbus0
pid 88103 (cc), uid 0, was killed: out of swap space
pid 85453 (make), uid 0, was killed: out of swap space
pid 2650 (ld.lld), uid 0, was killed: out of swap space

source tree is on svn release:
332673

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Bug ID: 227609
   Summary: Compiling world from sources fails: out of swap space
   Product: Base System
   Version: CURRENT
  Hardware: amd64
OS: Any
Status: New
  Severity: Affects Only Me
  Priority: ---
 Component: bin
  Assignee: b...@freebsd.org
  Reporter: tschwei...@gmail.com

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