Re: Unusable PS/2 mouse

1999-07-20 Thread Tomi Vainio

Greg Lehey writes:
  
  ISTR there was a fix for this committed recently.  Have you tried
  updating to a really recent -CURRENT?
  
I'm using current cvsupped on last Sunday.

Kazutaka YOKOTA writes:
  
  One is Logitech mouse support in the psm driver.  The psm driver had
  been unable to handle some wheel mice models, including Logitech
  M-S48, until recently.  It was fixed about a week ago both in -CURRENT
  and -STABLE.  So, you should now be able to use your Logitech mouse,
  detected as MouseMan+, without the flags 0x100.
  
My mouse works very well without the switch box.

  2/3 button PS/2 mouse.  If you don't switch between computers, I guess
  you won't have a problem. (But, this defeats the reason why you want
  to have the switch box in the first place!)
  
If I don't switch between computers mouse won't work either.  Probably
this switch is just badly designed so it will drain all needed voltage
from wire.

  Tomppa
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Re: Soft-updates feedback

1999-07-20 Thread Amancio Hasty

Have you checked your syslog to see if you are getting disk errors?

Also, I noticed that you have a VIA chipset and I know that 
at least with the Bt848 driver they have caused havoc. I would
stick to Intel PCI chipsets.

Not sure if your motherboard supports or not do you have
the latest microcode for your VIA chipset? 

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Aurel VORTEX Sound Card

1999-07-20 Thread Mike Ju. Volkov



Dose anybody install sound card Diamond Monster Sound II (based on Aurel
VORTEX chipset) and make it propertly work ?

Tell me how you did it, pls!

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Re: lockmanager panic

1999-07-20 Thread Andrew Atrens


I think I'm up to date :) ... Unfortunately I won't be able to try out
your fix until this evening :( ...

Cheers,

Andrew.

--

$ ident swap_pager.c
swap_pager.c:
 $Id: swap_pager.c,v 1.121 1999/07/16 05:11:35 alc Exp $

$ grep BUF_KERNPROC swap_pager.c
BUF_KERNPROC(bp);
BUF_KERNPROC(bp);



On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Kirk McKusick wrote:

 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:59:51 -0700
 From: Kirk McKusick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Atrens, Andrew (A.B.) [EXCHANGE:SKY:1U33:BNR]"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: lockmanager panic
 
 Please be sure that you are running with vm/swap_pager.c
 at version 1.120 or later. In particular, you should have
 two calls to the macro BUF_KERNPROC in that file. If you
 are missing those two calls, you will get the panic. If
 you do have those two calls in that code, then (and *only*
 then) try the following patch to see if it helps. It is
 making use of BUF_KERNPROC for cases in which it is not
 intended, but if it gets around your current problem, then
 gives a good indication of what to look for as a real fix.
 
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RE: Soft-updates feedback

1999-07-20 Thread Christopher Michaels

FWIW, I have a VIA chipset in my machine that is running -STABLE and I don't
have such problems.  I don't know if I have the same chipset as you tho, as
I'm not at the machine to check my dmesg.

I put an decent about of stress on the drives and don't seem to have any
lockups at all, slowdowns yes, lockups no.

I have the VIA MVP3 chipset, and my 2 of my drives are in DMA mode and one
is in PIO mode.

-Chris

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 3:13 AM
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 Subject:  Soft-updates feedback
 
 Have you checked your syslog to see if you are getting disk errors?
 
 Also, I noticed that you have a VIA chipset and I know that 
 at least with the Bt848 driver they have caused havoc. I would
 stick to Intel PCI chipsets.
 
 Not sure if your motherboard supports or not do you have
 the latest microcode for your VIA chipset? 
 
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Re: Panics on my SMP system

1999-07-20 Thread Matthew Dillon

:Hi there,
:
:   I recently had a crash on my SMP system. Actually, I have had a
:number of crashes over the past six months, but have just recently had
:time to configure the system to get the crash dumps. Like a good
:citizen, I filed a problem report (kern/12127). I have now gotten
:another crash. I have attached the backtrace from the crash dump. If
:you refer to kern/12127, you will get all of the gory details about my
:setup.I would like to know two things. Should I file a separate
:problem report for this crash? Second, is there somewhere that I
:should upload the vmcores and the kernel.debug for the relevant
:developer to examine?
:
:Thanks,
:   -Reggie

How old is your -CURRENT source tree ?Fixes to the pipe code
have been made, though they are not 100% complete.

If your -CURRENT source tree is more then a few days old I recommend
updating it.  A number of significant reliability fixes have gone in,
including fixes to the pipe code and fixes to certain atomic operations 
that weren't atomic. 

-Matt



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Re: is dumpon/savecore broken?

1999-07-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Steven G. Kar
gl" writes:

During the boot process I see

   dumpon: crash dumps to /dev/da0s1b (4, 131073)
   checking for core dump...savecore: can't find device 13/131073

It seems that the the major device number is reset from 4 to 13.

troutmask:kargl[225] swapinfo
Device  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Type
/dev/#B13:0x200015118720   511872 0%Interleaved

Yes, all dev_t's which make it out of the kernel have cmajor
numbers now.

Try this change to savecore:

/ddname = find_dev/s/BLK/CHR/


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Re: is dumpon/savecore broken?

1999-07-20 Thread Steven G. Kargl

According to Poul-Henning Kamp:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Steven G. Kar
 gl" writes:
 
 During the boot process I see
 
dumpon: crash dumps to /dev/da0s1b (4, 131073)
checking for core dump...savecore: can't find device 13/131073
 
 It seems that the the major device number is reset from 4 to 13.
 
 Yes, all dev_t's which make it out of the kernel have cmajor
 numbers now.
 
 Try this change to savecore:
 
   /ddname = find_dev/s/BLK/CHR/
 

Thanks, Poul. 

I forgot to mention that this is after a "make world" and new kernel
from today (1000 PST).

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Re: is dumpon/savecore broken?

1999-07-20 Thread Matthew Dillon

:dumpon: crash dumps to /dev/da0s1b (4, 131073)
:checking for core dump...savecore: can't find device 13/131073
: 
: It seems that the the major device number is reset from 4 to 13.
: 
: Yes, all dev_t's which make it out of the kernel have cmajor
: numbers now.
: 
: Try this change to savecore:
: 
:  /ddname = find_dev/s/BLK/CHR/
: 
:
:Thanks, Poul. 
:
:I forgot to mention that this is after a "make world" and new kernel
:from today (1000 PST).
:
:-- 
:Steve

A checklist for people who want kernel cores:

* make sure that dumpdev is set to point to your swap partition
  in your /etc/rc.conf

* make sure your swap partition is large enough to hold the crash
  dump.  If you have 256MB of ram, your swap partition must be 
  at least 256MB in size.

* make sure /var/crash has sufficient space to hold the dump
  (note: /var/crash *can* be a softlink to a directory in some
  other partition if /var does not have sufficient space)

  /var/crash must nominally have sufficient space to hold the crash
  dump (a file of the same size as the amount of memory you have),
  *and* the kernel image.  Normally you give it a lot more space so
  you store several crash dumps in it at once.

-Matt
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Re: is dumpon/savecore broken?

1999-07-20 Thread Steven G. Kargl

According to Matthew Dillon:
 :dumpon: crash dumps to /dev/da0s1b (4, 131073)
 :checking for core dump...savecore: can't find device 13/131073
 : 
 : It seems that the the major device number is reset from 4 to 13.
 : 
 : Yes, all dev_t's which make it out of the kernel have cmajor
 : numbers now.
 : 
 : Try this change to savecore:
 : 
 :/ddname = find_dev/s/BLK/CHR/
 : 
 :
 :Thanks, Poul. 
 :
 :I forgot to mention that this is after a "make world" and new kernel
 :from today (1000 PST).
 :
 
 A checklist for people who want kernel cores:
 

[Matt's check list deleted which I meet]

   /var/crash must nominally have sufficient space to hold the crash
   dump (a file of the same size as the amount of memory you have),
   *and* the kernel image.  Normally you give it a lot more space so
   you store several crash dumps in it at once.

Matt,

AFAICT, the problem is due to the translation of /dev/da0s1b to
major and minor numbers.  dumpon takes /dev/da0s1b and translates
it to (4,131073) in my case.  savecore uses sysctl kern.dumpdev to
determine the dump device.  kern.dumpdev is set to (13,131073).
Thus, dumpon uses bmajor and savecore uses cmajor device numbers.

I also note that savecore grovels around in /dev/kmem which scares
the heck out of me as far as my hacking abilities go ;-)

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Re: is dumpon/savecore broken?

1999-07-20 Thread Matthew Dillon


:And how do you create dumps from a kernel that hasn't finished booting
:(not gotten to the stage of reading rc.conf)? 'dumps on' in kernel
:config does not seem to do the job.
:
:Nick

You can do it manually from /etc/rc.  If it doesn't even get that far,
you used to be able to specify it in the kernel config but I do not know
if that is possible any more.

-Matt


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Re: Soft-updates feedback

1999-07-20 Thread John Baldwin


On 20-Jul-99 Amancio Hasty wrote:
 Have you checked your syslog to see if you are getting disk errors?
 
 Also, I noticed that you have a VIA chipset and I know that 
 at least with the Bt848 driver they have caused havoc. I would
 stick to Intel PCI chipsets.
 
 Not sure if your motherboard supports or not do you have
 the latest microcode for your VIA chipset? 

Huh?

Excerpt from my dmesg:

Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0: VIA 82C597 (Apollo VP3) system controller rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0
chip1: VIA 82C598MVP (Apollo MVP3) PCI-PCI bridge rev 0x00 on pci0.1.0
chip2: VIA 82C586 PCI-ISA bridge rev 0x41 on pci0.7.0
ide_pci0: VIA 82C586x (Apollo) Bus-master IDE controller rev 0x06 on pci0.7.1
chip3: VIA 82C586B ACPI interface rev 0x10 on pci0.7.3
bktr0: BrookTree 848 rev 0x01 int a irq 9 on pci0.9.0
bti2c0: bt848 Hard/Soft I2C controller
iicbb0: I2C generic bit-banging driver on bti2c0
iicbus0: Philips I2C bus on iicbb0 master-only
smbus0: System Management Bus on bti2c0
Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips NTSC tuner, dbx stereo.

What types of havoc should I be looking for?  Haven't had any since December
when I bought the new motherboard.

Oh, and here's uname -a:

FreeBSD john.baldwin.cx 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #3: Thu Jul  1 21:08:59
EDT 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/source/src/sys/compile/JOHN  i386

More info available on request.

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Re: is dumpon/savecore broken?

1999-07-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dav
id Scheidt writes:
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:

 
 * make sure your swap partition is large enough to hold the crash
   dump.  If you have 256MB of ram, your swap partition must be 
   at least 256MB in size.

Is there any reason that savecore(8) can't write compressed crashdumps?
(Other than no one haveing ever written the the code, of course.)  In 
other words, if I wrote this would it get committed?  

I'm pretty sure it would.  I think the lack of libz has prevented
it in the past.

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Re: is dumpon/savecore broken?

1999-07-20 Thread Matthew Dillon

:On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:
:
: 
: * make sure your swap partition is large enough to hold the crash
:   dump.  If you have 256MB of ram, your swap partition must be 
:   at least 256MB in size.
:
:Is there any reason that savecore(8) can't write compressed crashdumps?
:(Other than no one haveing ever written the the code, of course.)  In 
:other words, if I wrote this would it get committed?  
:
:David Scheidt 

A crash dump would have to uncopmressed to gdb it.   If you have
sufficient space to hold a crash dump, just point /var/crash at that
space.  If you compress it right off the bat then someone is going to
have to uncompress it to look at it.

I sometimes compress crash dumps if I want to save them after I'm through
gdb'ing them.

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Re: Moving ipf(1) to ipf(8)?

1999-07-20 Thread Nik Clayton

On Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 10:40:03AM +0930, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Nik Clayton wrote:
 
  docs/7791 is of the opinion that ipf(1) should be moved to ipf(8), to
  (among other things) be consistent with ipfw(8).
  
  Anyone care to comment one way or the other?
 
 Definitely.

Assuming I did this, what's the approved method?  

Myself, I'd just 

# mv ipf.1 ipf.8
# cvs remove ipf.1
# cvs add ipf.8
# cvs commit -m "Renamed ipf.1 to ipf.8" ipf.1 ipf.8
[... check for any other man pages that refer to ipf(1) and update
 them accordingly ...]

which properly reflects that (until the change) ipf.8 didn't exist.  I 
*would not* use a repository copy for this.

I'm aware that some people's opinions of when you repository copy and 
when you don't are different, however.

N
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Re: is dumpon/savecore broken?

1999-07-20 Thread David Scheidt

On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:

 
 A crash dump would have to uncopmressed to gdb it.   If you have
 sufficient space to hold a crash dump, just point /var/crash at that
 space.  If you compress it right off the bat then someone is going to
 have to uncompress it to look at it.

savecore saving compressed crash dumps is handy on production machines
with lots of memory.  I run a bunch of HP/UX boxes that don't have 4 gigs
in /var/crash, because they never crash, except of course when they do.
It is very useful to be able to save the dump, even if I have to analyze 
it somewhere else.  

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Re: is dumpon/savecore broken?

1999-07-20 Thread Brian F. Feldman

On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Steven G. Kar
 gl" writes:
 
 During the boot process I see
 
dumpon: crash dumps to /dev/da0s1b (4, 131073)
checking for core dump...savecore: can't find device 13/131073
 
 It seems that the the major device number is reset from 4 to 13.
 
 troutmask:kargl[225] swapinfo
 Device  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Type
 /dev/#B13:0x200015118720   511872 0%Interleaved
 
 Yes, all dev_t's which make it out of the kernel have cmajor
 numbers now.
 
 Try this change to savecore:
 
   /ddname = find_dev/s/BLK/CHR/

No, that's wrong. You cannot do buffered-type IO on a cdev. I committed
a workaround, and now it works. There's no easy way around this, except
possibly making kern.dumpdev a string (makes quite a bit of sense there...)

 
 
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Re: is dumpon/savecore broken?

1999-07-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Bria
n F. Feldman" writes:

  /ddname = find_dev/s/BLK/CHR/

No, that's wrong. You cannot do buffered-type IO on a cdev. I committed
a workaround, and now it works. There's no easy way around this, except
possibly making kern.dumpdev a string (makes quite a bit of sense there...)

Indeed.  a dev_t should never be exported as such from the kernel
anymore, in particular not for bdevs.  dumps and swap are the two
offenders left.

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Re: is dumpon/savecore broken?

1999-07-20 Thread Brian F. Feldman

On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Bria
 n F. Feldman" writes:
 
 /ddname = find_dev/s/BLK/CHR/
 
 No, that's wrong. You cannot do buffered-type IO on a cdev. I committed
 a workaround, and now it works. There's no easy way around this, except
 possibly making kern.dumpdev a string (makes quite a bit of sense there...)
 
 Indeed.  a dev_t should never be exported as such from the kernel
 anymore, in particular not for bdevs.  dumps and swap are the two
 offenders left.

Should I commit a similar workaround for the swap code too? Quite
simple to do...


 
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Re: Soft-updates feedback

1999-07-20 Thread Amancio Hasty

Glad that is working out for you. I am not into PCI low level bugs they are 
very
difficult to indentify and in certain cases impossible to fix.


To give you a little hint:



1.6825 May 1999 Roger Hardiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Due to differences in PCI bus implementations from various
motherboard chipset manufactuers, the Bt878/Bt879 has 3
PCI bus compatibility modes. These are
  NORMAL PCI 2.1  for proper PCI 2.1 compatible chipsets.
  INTEL 430 FXfor the Intel 430 FX chipset.
  SIS VIA CHIPSET for certain SiS and VIA chipsets.
Older Intel and non-Intel chipsets may also benefit from
either 430_FX or SIS/VIA mode.




Usually, the kind of problems that I have heard of is systems hanging hard
for instance with the Bt848 driver.

The bottom line is that if it is working for you great.




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Re: Panics on my SMP system

1999-07-20 Thread Brian F. Feldman

On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:

 
 How old is your -CURRENT source tree ?Fixes to the pipe code
 have been made, though they are not 100% complete.
 
 If your -CURRENT source tree is more then a few days old I recommend
 updating it.  A number of significant reliability fixes have gone in,
 including fixes to the pipe code and fixes to certain atomic operations 
 that weren't atomic. 

What's happing with regard to your pipe write locking fixes? I still
apply those to my kernels...

 
   -Matt

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kernel compilation problems

1999-07-20 Thread Thomas Schuerger

Hi!

I'm currently having problems compiling my kernel:

...
...
...
sh ../../conf/newvers.sh STARFIRE 
cc -c -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  
-nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include  -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  
vers.c
linking kernel
vfs_init.o: In function `vfs_register':
vfs_init.o(.text+0x8a1): undefined reference to `sysctl(void, float, short)'
*** Error code 1
1 error
Exit 2


Any ideas?


Ciao,
Thomas.



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Re: Unusable PS/2 mouse

1999-07-20 Thread Alex Zepeda

On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote:

 One is Logitech mouse support in the psm driver.  The psm driver had
 been unable to handle some wheel mice models, including Logitech
 M-S48, until recently.

Perhaps it's worth getting another mouse in this situation.  My $30
Logitech wheeled mouse (M-C48) works great with FreeBSD and has for as
long as I've owned it.  This seems to be the going attitude WRT CD-ROMS
:^)

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Re: Unusable PS/2 mouse

1999-07-20 Thread Kazutaka YOKOTA

Is there any support for the wheel in FreeBSD/X, the moused man page seems
to suggest there is but I've not managed to get it to do anything yet.

Paul.

You will find the following URL useful to utilize the wheel in 
the X environment.

http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/

Kazu


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Re: Kensington mouse (was: Re: Unusable PS/2 mouse)

1999-07-20 Thread Chris D. Faulhaber

On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote:

 
 On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Warner Losh wrote:
 
  I had problems with the my Kensignton mouse in a box, but some fixes
  were made to -current that fixed the problems.  A workaround is to set 
  flags 0x20 (the NOIDPROBE) which forces it to behave as if it were a
  plain old 2 button (or in my case 3 button) mouse.
  
 
 For my Kensington (on -stable) I used 'flags 0x10' (NOCHECKSYNC) to kill
 the out of sync messages. The only side effect I've seen is that the
 cursor speed is faster [than with using the serial port connector].
 
 Which model is it?  Kensington sells quite a number of mouse/trackball
 products.
 
 The model Warner talked about is "Kensington Mouse in a Box Scroll".
 It has a wheel between two buttons. Is that the one you are talking
 about?
 
 (The problem regarding "Kensington Mouse in a Box Scroll" was fixed in
 both -CURRENT and -STABLE about a week ago.)
 
 If not, would you give -v option to the boot command when you boot the
 kernel and send me /var/run/dmesg.out, so that I can diagnose what the
 psm driver is doing to the mouse?
 

My apologies, I was inferring that I also had a "Kensington Mouse in a Box
Scroll" (Model: MOSUI) ...

After removing the flags from psm, the mouse is working great.  This is
stable cvsupped last weekend (July 15th or so).

Excellent work!

Thanks,
Chris

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