Re: Trying to build CURRENT

2001-12-20 Thread Ruslan Ermilov

On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 09:12:18PM -0600, Joe Halpin wrote:
 I'm getting the following error when running 'make buildworld'
 
 perl
 
-I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/des/asm:/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/perlasm
 /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/bf/asm/bf-586.pl
 elf 386  bf-586.cmt
 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libperl.so.3 not found
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/src.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/src.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/src.
 
 I'm running 4.4-RELEASE right now, and trying to go to -CURRENT. I did a
 cvsup to get the source, and ran make buildworld
 
 I just updated the source tree tonight. Should I wait to try again, or
 am I doing something wrong?
 
 I've got the complete make output in a file if that would help.
 
Your host environment is screwed, you lost /usr/lib/libperl.so.3.
Watch ``ldd /usr/bin/perl'' output.


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Re: Buildworld broken on _FBSDID in xinstall.c ??

2001-12-20 Thread Glenn Gombert

 Thats what I did yesterday, and buildworld/installworld worked fine
after that :))


 Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Barcroft
 writes:
 :  Any suggestions?
 : 
 : I would recommend removing the __FBSD() line locally until this has
 : been resolved.
 
 cvsup might be better :-)
 
 Warner
 
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Re: Object now: man(1) -m option is going away

2001-12-20 Thread Terry Lambert

Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
 I'd like to drop the support for the man(1)'s -m option,
 which is almost undocumented and is of little interest.
 Unless I hear any valid objections, I am going to nuke
 it on Friday.

How do you propose we look at Alpha specific man pages on x86
boxes, after this change?

Thanks,
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Re: Object now: man(1) -m option is going away

2001-12-20 Thread Ruslan Ermilov

On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 11:32:48AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote:
 Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
  I'd like to drop the support for the man(1)'s -m option,
  which is almost undocumented and is of little interest.
  Unless I hear any valid objections, I am going to nuke
  it on Friday.
 
 How do you propose we look at Alpha specific man pages on x86
 boxes, after this change?
 
I suppose you have them installed in standard places, like
/usr/share/man/man4/alpha/.

If so, use the MACHINE environment variable, as documented
in the man(1) manpage.

If you have then installed in a separate tree, use the
MANPATH environment variable, or the -M option to man(1).


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Re: Trying to build CURRENT

2001-12-20 Thread Joe Halpin

Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
 
 On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 09:12:18PM -0600, Joe Halpin wrote:
  I'm getting the following error when running 'make buildworld'
 
  perl
  
-I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/des/asm:/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/perlasm
  /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/bf/asm/bf-586.pl
  elf 386  bf-586.cmt
  /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libperl.so.3 not found
  *** Error code 1
 
  Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto.
  *** Error code 1
 
  Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib.
  *** Error code 1
 
  Stop in /usr/src.
  *** Error code 1
 
  Stop in /usr/src.
  *** Error code 1
 
  Stop in /usr/src.
 
  I'm running 4.4-RELEASE right now, and trying to go to -CURRENT. I did a
  cvsup to get the source, and ran make buildworld
 
  I just updated the source tree tonight. Should I wait to try again, or
  am I doing something wrong?
 
  I've got the complete make output in a file if that would help.
 
 Your host environment is screwed, you lost /usr/lib/libperl.so.3.
 Watch ``ldd /usr/bin/perl'' output.

Yep. See my response to Mike. I got going again by manually copying it
from the build directory.

Thanks

Joe

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Intel 82544GC Gigabit support?

2001-12-20 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk

hi

does anyone know if this is/will be supported?

roy

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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

2001-12-20 Thread Jean Louis Ntakpe

Hi,

I know, this is not the right place, but my best wishes
to the whole freebsd community for doing such a great job.
To all of you *** merry christmas and happy new year ***

regards,

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__stdoutp causing hassle ;)

2001-12-20 Thread north star

Heyas
After upgrading directly to CURRENT from 4.3-
RELEASE I've been presented with a rather loud and
whiney bug (I thought it at first to be my ex-
girlfriend somehow manifested via `festival` but 
thk god it was not). Every shared library on the
system drops via ld-elf.so.1 regarding the symbol
__stdoutp. This pretty much kills everything as I 
m sure u can imagine :) Does anyone have any idea
why the libs arent being pointed to libc.so.5
properly? (That is where __stdoutp should be (and
is) defined.) Any input is appreciated.
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Re: __stdoutp causing hassle ;)

2001-12-20 Thread David Wolfskill

Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:14:14 -0800 (PST)
From: north star [EMAIL PROTECTED]

After upgrading directly to CURRENT from 4.3-
RELEASE I've been presented with a rather loud and
whiney bug (I thought it at first to be my ex-
girlfriend somehow manifested via `festival` but 
thk god it was not). Every shared library on the
system drops via ld-elf.so.1 regarding the symbol
__stdoutp

I suspect that you failed to include

COMPAT4X=   yes

in /etc/make.conf (as a review of the -current archives should have
indicated).

Cheers,
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Re: CD-ROM installation of -CURRENT broken?

2001-12-20 Thread Bruce Evans

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote:

 Does anyone know when installation of -CURRENT from CD-ROM got broken or a
 solution thereof?  We end up having two problems: the fixit shell doesn't
 work, but before that an actual installation doesn't work because
 sysinstall's attempt to mount /dev/acd0c on /dist returns ENOENT.  I havne't
 determined yet why this could be; anyone have clues?

The 'c' partition of acd0 devices was broken for the non-DEVFS case in
rev.104 of atapi-cd.c.  (The errno for this is ENXIO.)  DEVFS is not
in GENERIC and make release doesn't seem to add it.

Bruce


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Dropping bsd.man.mk support from bsd.kmod.mk

2001-12-20 Thread Ruslan Ermilov

Hi!

I'd like to drop bsd.man.mk support from bsd.kmod.mk,
because I was told by someone (peter?) that this is
the right direction.  :-)

Objections?


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Re: CD-ROM installation of -CURRENT broken?

2001-12-20 Thread Brian F. Feldman

Bruce Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote:
 
  Does anyone know when installation of -CURRENT from CD-ROM got broken or a
  solution thereof?  We end up having two problems: the fixit shell doesn't
  work, but before that an actual installation doesn't work because
  sysinstall's attempt to mount /dev/acd0c on /dist returns ENOENT.  I havne't
  determined yet why this could be; anyone have clues?
 
 The 'c' partition of acd0 devices was broken for the non-DEVFS case in
 rev.104 of atapi-cd.c.  (The errno for this is ENXIO.)  DEVFS is not
 in GENERIC and make release doesn't seem to add it.

Well, really, all we should care about is the devfs case since anything else 
is meant to be deprecated; I'd rather fix this at the source...  DEVFS is no 
longer optional, so it is in GENERIC for certain.

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Re: CD-ROM installation of -CURRENT broken?

2001-12-20 Thread Bruce Evans

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Brian F. Feldman wrote:

 Bruce Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The 'c' partition of acd0 devices was broken for the non-DEVFS case in
  rev.104 of atapi-cd.c.  (The errno for this is ENXIO.)  DEVFS is not
  in GENERIC and make release doesn't seem to add it.

 Well, really, all we should care about is the devfs case since anything else
 is meant to be deprecated; I'd rather fix this at the source...  DEVFS is no
 longer optional, so it is in GENERIC for certain.

Oops, DEVFS is in GENERIC, but not because it isn't optional.  It is
controlled by a bogus negative option (NODEVFS).  The NODEVFS case has
rotted a bit, but it isn't as broken as DEVFS yet.

Bruce


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Re: vm_zeropage priority problems.

2001-12-20 Thread Peter Wemm

Luigi Rizzo wrote:
 [Cc peter because he introduced this code]
 
 Hi,
 i was trying the following code in -current (basically copied from
 vm_zeropage.c), to implement device polling in the idle loop, and
 noticed that the process would take all of the CPU time. Being
 suspicious that something was wrong with priorities, I added a
 couple of printfs, and to my surprise, the priority of the process
 (pri_level) after the first tsleep() becomes 104 instead of staying
 at 255 as it was originally initialized.
 
 A quick scan of the files in sys/sys shows that 104 is PPAUSE,
 and this is the source of the problem.

Excellent catch!  This particular problem was one of the main reasons
why this is still defaulting to 'off'.  I have a couple of other changes
to it pending commit to fix some of Bruce's complaints, but I hadn't
noticed the cause of this.

Part of the problem is that tsleep temporarily elevates the priority for
wakeup, and it is normally returned back to normal level when the process
returns to userland (see the *_userpri stuff).

Changing the tlseep PPAUSE value isn't necessarily the right thing either
because the priority propagation mechanism will elevate us if we hold a lock
that something else *needs*.  (This is so that when it yields, we will run
and do what we need to do and presumably release the lock.)

 I guess this is a bug in vm_zeropage.c, the second parameter
 in tsleep should be td-td_ksegrp-kg_pri.pri_level instead
 of PPAUSE, or at least the priority should be reset to the
 original value after returning from the tsleep ?

Possibly both of these.  Let me do some checking.

   cheers
   luigi
 
 static void
 poll_idle(void)
 {
 struct thread *td = curthread;
 struct rtprio rtp;
  
 rtp.prio = RTP_PRIO_MAX;/* lowest priority */
 rtp.type = RTP_PRIO_IDLE;
 mtx_lock_spin(sched_lock);
 rtp_to_pri(rtp, td-td_ksegrp-kg_pri);
 mtx_unlock_spin(sched_lock);

 printf(idlepoll start and sleep, pri is %d native %d user %d\n,
 td-td_ksegrp-kg_pri.pri_level,
 td-td_ksegrp-kg_pri.pri_native,
 td-td_ksegrp-kg_pri.pri_user);
 for (;;) {
 if (poll_in_idle  poll_handlers  0) {
 idlepoll_sleeping = 0;
 mtx_lock(Giant);
 ether_poll(poll_each_burst);
 mtx_unlock(Giant);
 mtx_assert(Giant, MA_NOTOWNED);
 mtx_lock_spin(sched_lock);
 setrunqueue(td);
 td-td_proc-p_stats-p_ru.ru_nvcsw++;
 mi_switch();
 mtx_unlock_spin(sched_lock);
 } else {
   printf(idlepoll goes to sleep, 
   pri is %d native %d user %d\n,
   td-td_ksegrp-kg_pri.pri_level,
   td-td_ksegrp-kg_pri.pri_native,
   td-td_ksegrp-kg_pri.pri_user);
 idlepoll_sleeping = 1;
 tsleep(idlepoll_sleeping, PPAUSE, pollid, hz * 3);
 }
 }
 }
 
 static struct proc *idlepoll;
 static struct kproc_desc idlepoll_kp = {
  idlepoll,
  poll_idle,
  idlepoll
 };
 SYSINIT(idlepoll, SI_SUB_KTHREAD_VM, SI_ORDER_ANY, kproc_start, idlepoll_kp)
 
 
 

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Re: vm_zeropage priority problems.

2001-12-20 Thread Luigi Rizzo

On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 11:13:27AM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote:
...
 Excellent catch!  This particular problem was one of the main reasons
 why this is still defaulting to 'off'.  I have a couple of other changes
 to it pending commit to fix some of Bruce's complaints, but I hadn't
 noticed the cause of this.
 
 Part of the problem is that tsleep temporarily elevates the priority for
 wakeup, and it is normally returned back to normal level when the process
 returns to userland (see the *_userpri stuff).

ah, ok, kernel threads never return to userland...

so, i presume one should also make sure that after the process is
scheduled, the priority is restored to the 'native' level; this
should also solve the problem with the priority propagation mechanism
(though... I have the feeling that if you have nested locks, this
cannot scale...)

cheers
luigi

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Re: vm_zeropage priority problems.

2001-12-20 Thread John Baldwin


On 20-Dec-01 Luigi Rizzo wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 11:13:27AM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote:
 ...
 Excellent catch!  This particular problem was one of the main reasons
 why this is still defaulting to 'off'.  I have a couple of other changes
 to it pending commit to fix some of Bruce's complaints, but I hadn't
 noticed the cause of this.
 
 Part of the problem is that tsleep temporarily elevates the priority for
 wakeup, and it is normally returned back to normal level when the process
 returns to userland (see the *_userpri stuff).
 
 ah, ok, kernel threads never return to userland...
 
 so, i presume one should also make sure that after the process is
 scheduled, the priority is restored to the 'native' level; this
 should also solve the problem with the priority propagation mechanism
 (though... I have the feeling that if you have nested locks, this
 cannot scale...)

Priority propagation will already handle things ok.  We drop to pri_native
after we drop a lock (although if we still hold a contested lock we bump our
priority to the min(nativepri, highest priority of threads on contested locks
we hold and drop to nativepri after dropping the last contested lock). 
However, kthreads should tsleep() with their current priority, not PPAUSE.

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Re: vm_zeropage priority problems.

2001-12-20 Thread Luigi Rizzo

On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 12:16:03PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote:
...
 Priority propagation will already handle things ok.  We drop to pri_native
 after we drop a lock (although if we still hold a contested lock we bump our
 priority to the min(nativepri, highest priority of threads on contested locks
 we hold and drop to nativepri after dropping the last contested lock). 

ok, thanks for the clarification

 However, kthreads should tsleep() with their current priority, not PPAUSE.

current meaning pri_level or pri_native ? What if one tries to
tsleep() while holding a lock and so its pri_level is raised ?

In the device polling code i did a tsleep on the original pri_level,
but maybe pri_native is good enough.

cheers
luigi

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Re: vm_zeropage priority problems.

2001-12-20 Thread John Baldwin


On 20-Dec-01 Luigi Rizzo wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 12:16:03PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote:
 ...
 Priority propagation will already handle things ok.  We drop to pri_native
 after we drop a lock (although if we still hold a contested lock we bump our
 priority to the min(nativepri, highest priority of threads on contested
 locks
 we hold and drop to nativepri after dropping the last contested lock). 
 
 ok, thanks for the clarification
 
 However, kthreads should tsleep() with their current priority, not PPAUSE.
 
 current meaning pri_level or pri_native ? What if one tries to
 tsleep() while holding a lock and so its pri_level is raised ?

pri_level.  Calling tsleep() while holding a lock is a bug though. :)  Unless
you are calling msleep() with a lock that will be released.

 In the device polling code i did a tsleep on the original pri_level,
 but maybe pri_native is good enough.

pri_level is more correct.

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Re: My naive addendum to Matt's recommended dev/test env

2001-12-20 Thread Peter Jeremy

On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 12:06:24PM -0500, Peter Dufault wrote:
...
 # cd /FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/src
 # make installworld

(Lot's of noise as the stable kernel installs the stable world.  Then reboot)

You've missed a critical step here:  Before you reboot you need to
run mergemaster.  You might be lucky and not need it for the -RELEASE
to -STABLE upgrade, but you can be certain that the one time you don't
bother, it'll come back and bite you in some obscure manner.

 # sync

The sync isn't necessary (and has never been necessary for FreeBSD).

 # reboot


Peter

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Re: __stdoutp causing hassle ;)

2001-12-20 Thread north star

 I suspect that you failed to include
 
 COMPAT4X= yes
 
 in /etc/make.conf (as a review of the -current
 archives should have
 indicated).
 
 Cheers,
 david
Ah, worked beautifully! Thanks, David, I appreciate
it. I did look at the mail archives quickly but 
usually if I don't see anything within the past week
or so I assume either I'm being ignorant of something
or there is a new bug. I don't mind admitting when
its my ignorance at fault :)
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y ahora que

2001-12-20 Thread rssa



;EL PUEBLO TENDRA QUE VOLVER A SALIR A LA CALLE


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Broken at share/colldef

2001-12-20 Thread Jun Kuriyama


=== share
=== share/colldef
colldef -I /usr/src/share/colldef -o bg_BG.CP1251.out 
/usr/src/share/colldef/bg_BG.CP1251.src
...
/sv_SE.ISO8859-1.src
colldef -I /usr/src/share/colldef -o uk_UA.ISO8859-5.out 
/usr/src/share/colldef/uk_UA.ISO8859-5.src
colldef: Char 0xcd duplicated near line 36
*** Error code 69

Stop in /usr/src/share/colldef.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/share.
*** Error code 1


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Is this just a normal part of being on the list?

Joe

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Re: spam

2001-12-20 Thread Brandon D. Valentine

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Joe Halpin wrote:

I'm starting to get spam since I joined this list, and the spam is
coming from freebsd.org. If I'm reading the headers right, it's coming
in through a freebsd.org mail server.
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Is this just a normal part of being on the list?

You're not getting the spam directly.  The spam is sent to the mailing
list and then sent to you as a subscriber.  This is an unfortunate
side effect of the fact that the mailing lists are open to posting from
non-subscribers.

Brandon D. Valentine
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spam

2001-12-20 Thread Garrett Wollman

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:46:16 -0600, Joe Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Is this just a normal part of being on the list?

Yes, lots of spammers spew at FreeBSD mailing-lists.  If you can
identify a persistent source of spam, the postmaster is fairly
responsive in filtering them.

-GAWollman


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Re: Intel 82544GC Gigabit support?

2001-12-20 Thread John Polstra

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Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 does anyone know if this is/will be supported?

I believe it is supported by the em driver, which has been in
-current for a few weeks and was recently merged into -stable.

John
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Re: spam

2001-12-20 Thread Matthew Dillon


:I'm starting to get spam since I joined this list, and the spam is
:coming from freebsd.org. If I'm reading the headers right, it's coming
:in through a freebsd.org mail server. 

Ha.  In the last two weeks the amount of personal spam I receive has
gone up exponentially.  I'm getting around 60 a day now.  I'm not
surprised that the list is seeing a big increase.

I can only hope that our illustrious congress has grown as tired of
spam as I have and will fix the law to simply ban it.

-Matt

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