Re: new mailing list - freebsd-wirel...@freebsd.org

2011-04-09 Thread J. Hellenthal
On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 11:15:51AM +0800, Adrian Chadd wrote:
Hi all,

I've just organised a new mailing list for wireless related development,
discussion and bug fixing.

Please subscribe to freebsd-wirel...@freebsd.org and ask wireless related
things there.

Although I (and others) keep an eye on the other mailing lists, you'll be
more likely to get a response if you instead email the wireless list.


Hey! good idea.

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Fwd: HEADSUP: Call for FreeBSD Status Reports - 1Q/2011

2011-04-09 Thread Daniel Gerzo

Hello,

I would like to remind you that the submission due date (April 15th) is 
approaching quickly and to this date I have received _only_ 3 submissions.


Please try to find a few minutes and submit your reports so that we can 
inform our community about the progress made in the first quarter of 2011.


Thanks!

 Original Message 
Subject: HEADSUP: Call for FreeBSD Status Reports - 1Q/2011
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:19:23 +0100
From: Daniel Gerzo dan...@freebsd.org
Organization: The FreeBSD Project
To: curr...@freebsd.org, hack...@freebsd.org

Dear all,

I would like to remind you that the next round of status reports
covering the first quarter of 2011 is due on April 15th, 2011. As this
initiative is very popular among our users, I would like to
ask you to submit your status reports soon, so that we can compile the
report on time.

Do not hesitate and write us a few lines; a short  description about
what you are working on, what your plans and goals are, or any other
information that you consider interested is always welcome. This way
we can inform our community about your great work!
Check out the reports from the past to get some inspiration of what
your submission should look like.

If you know about a project that should be included in the status
report, please let us know as well, so we can poke the responsible
people to provide us with something useful. Updates to submissions from
the last report are welcome too.

Note that the submissions are accepted from anyone involved within the
FreeBSD community, you do not have to be a FreeBSD committer. Anything
related to FreeBSD can be covered.

Please email us the filled-in XML template which can be found at
http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-sample.xml to
mont...@freebsd.org, or alternatively use our web based form located at
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/monthly.cgi.

For more information, please visit http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/.

We are looking forward to see your submissions!

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Re: new mailing list - freebsd-wirel...@freebsd.org

2011-04-09 Thread Mohammed Farrag
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Adrian Chadd adrian.ch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I've just organised a new mailing list for wireless related development,
 discussion and bug fixing.

 Please subscribe to freebsd-wirel...@freebsd.org and ask wireless related
 things there.

 Although I (and others) keep an eye on the other mailing lists, you'll be
 more likely to get a response if you instead email the wireless list.

 Thanks,


 adrian
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 Good job guy. Congrats

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Kernel Tracking Question.. regarding kernel and boot files

2011-04-09 Thread Chris Richardson
Hi all,

   I am totally new to FreeBSD. I was involved within project which will
trace the kernel. I used ktrace but I could not get appropriate results
about the files being opened. I don't see any of the boot files boot0-1 or 2
in the ktrace.out file. Where did they go? Is ktrace the best trace suite
for freebsd kernel? What about going through source code .. Is it better to
use Combination of Ecllipse/Qemu and FreeBSD Source tree? Does this method
will provide us with someway to see how booting process invokes the kernel
to memory ? Any help will be appreciated.

Yours,

Chris
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Re: SVN - CVS burp?

2011-04-09 Thread Simon L. B. Nielsen
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On 6 Apr 2011, at 15:39, Michael Butler wrote:

 It seem that CVS hasn't seen any src updates sine the burp involving
 /usr/ports/net/unison232/files/patch-update.mli.diff.

svn2cvs was down for a bit on April 6, but as ports isn't in SVN that's not 
related to anything there.

FWIW, see also: http://twitter.com/clusteradm

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Re: multiple issues with devstat_*(9)

2011-04-09 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 08/04/2011 08:51 Andriy Gapon said the following:
 on 07/04/2011 13:59 Alexander Motin said the following:
 Any objections? Or SCSI/IDE there expected to mean command set?

 
 Sorry for saying something potentially stupid, but... do we actually have any
 reason to make that distinction from any practical point?

And the following could be related here too:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/81497

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Re: Kernel Tracking Question.. regarding kernel and boot files

2011-04-09 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi, Chris--

[ ...Reply-to: set to direct towards the most appropriate list... ]

On Apr 9, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Chris Richardson wrote:
   I am totally new to FreeBSD. I was involved within project which will
 trace the kernel. I used ktrace but I could not get appropriate results
 about the files being opened. I don't see any of the boot files boot0-1 or 2
 in the ktrace.out file. Where did they go?

The bootstrap loader stages are what loads and runs the kernel.
ktrace isn't available until afterwards, when the kernel is running.

 Is ktrace the best trace suite for freebsd kernel?

Kinda depends on what you are doing.  Setting up good logging and making 
userland
interfaces for getting to useful information (cf vmstat, ps, iostat, etc) is
more likely to be useful over the longer run.

 What about going through source code .. Is it better to
 use Combination of Ecllipse/Qemu and FreeBSD Source tree?

Eclipse is an editor.  If you like it in particular, free free to use it,
otherwise pick something else you'd prefer to use for C code.

 Does this method will provide us with someway to see how booting process 
 invokes
 the kernel to memory ? Any help will be appreciated.

You're asking about the process here:

  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html

...?  Frankly, none of these are especially big, start by reviewing the source
code for 'em.

Regards,
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Re: Kernel Tracking Question.. regarding kernel and boot files

2011-04-09 Thread Chris Richardson
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi, Chris--

 [ ...Reply-to: set to direct towards the most appropriate list... ]

 On Apr 9, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Chris Richardson wrote:
I am totally new to FreeBSD. I was involved within project which will
  trace the kernel. I used ktrace but I could not get appropriate results
  about the files being opened. I don't see any of the boot files boot0-1
 or 2
  in the ktrace.out file. Where did they go?

 The bootstrap loader stages are what loads and runs the kernel.
 ktrace isn't available until afterwards, when the kernel is running.

  Is ktrace the best trace suite for freebsd kernel?

 Kinda depends on what you are doing.  Setting up good logging and making
 userland
 interfaces for getting to useful information (cf vmstat, ps, iostat, etc)
 is
 more likely to be useful over the longer run.


What about if I wanna see the interaction between boot process and kernel
loading.


  What about going through source code .. Is it better to
  use Combination of Ecllipse/Qemu and FreeBSD Source tree?

 Eclipse is an editor.  If you like it in particular, free free to use it,
 otherwise pick something else you'd prefer to use for C code.

  Does this method will provide us with someway to see how booting process
 invokes
  the kernel to memory ? Any help will be appreciated.

 You're asking about the process here:


 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html

 ...?  Frankly, none of these are especially big, start by reviewing the
 source
 code for 'em.


Yeah. this file provides me with the stages in theoretical way. How about
implementing it using qemu to emulate livecd to see what is going on boot0.
Do you have an idea about that ?

Good Luck,


 Regards,
 --
 -Chuck



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Re: Fwd: HEADSUP: Call for FreeBSD Status Reports - 1Q/2011

2011-04-09 Thread Gary Kline

For my short post [to everyone], I'll top post.  I am/have-been
trying to write a user-side audio, key-click driver for every 
Open OS--essentially the BSD distros and the Linux.  I am
looking for people interested and who know both python and
C/C++.

-g

On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 09:43:54AM +0200, Daniel Gerzo wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I would like to remind you that the submission due date (April 15th)
 is approaching quickly and to this date I have received _only_ 3
 submissions.
 
 Please try to find a few minutes and submit your reports so that we
 can inform our community about the progress made in the first
 quarter of 2011.
 
 Thanks!
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: HEADSUP: Call for FreeBSD Status Reports - 1Q/2011
 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:19:23 +0100
 From: Daniel Gerzo dan...@freebsd.org
 Organization: The FreeBSD Project
 To: curr...@freebsd.org, hack...@freebsd.org
 
 Dear all,
 
 I would like to remind you that the next round of status reports
 covering the first quarter of 2011 is due on April 15th, 2011. As this
 initiative is very popular among our users, I would like to
 ask you to submit your status reports soon, so that we can compile the
 report on time.
 
 Do not hesitate and write us a few lines; a short  description about
 what you are working on, what your plans and goals are, or any other
 information that you consider interested is always welcome. This way
 we can inform our community about your great work!
 Check out the reports from the past to get some inspiration of what
 your submission should look like.
 
 If you know about a project that should be included in the status
 report, please let us know as well, so we can poke the responsible
 people to provide us with something useful. Updates to submissions from
 the last report are welcome too.
 
 Note that the submissions are accepted from anyone involved within the
 FreeBSD community, you do not have to be a FreeBSD committer. Anything
 related to FreeBSD can be covered.
 
 Please email us the filled-in XML template which can be found at
 http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-sample.xml to
 mont...@freebsd.org, or alternatively use our web based form located at
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/monthly.cgi.
 
 For more information, please visit http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/.
 
 We are looking forward to see your submissions!
 
 -- 
 Kind regards
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Re: Kernel Tracking Question.. regarding kernel and boot files

2011-04-09 Thread Julian Elischer

On 4/9/11 2:51 PM, Chris Richardson wrote:

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Chuck Swigercswi...@mac.com  wrote:


Hi, Chris--

[ ...Reply-to: set to direct towards the most appropriate list... ]

On Apr 9, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Chris Richardson wrote:

   I am totally new to FreeBSD. I was involved within project which will
trace the kernel. I used ktrace but I could not get appropriate results
about the files being opened. I don't see any of the boot files boot0-1

or 2

in the ktrace.out file. Where did they go?

The bootstrap loader stages are what loads and runs the kernel.
ktrace isn't available until afterwards, when the kernel is running.


Is ktrace the best trace suite for freebsd kernel?

Kinda depends on what you are doing.  Setting up good logging and making
userland
interfaces for getting to useful information (cf vmstat, ps, iostat, etc)
is
more likely to be useful over the longer run.



What about if I wanna see the interaction between boot process and kernel
loading.


either you run it under an emulator that allows you to single step it.
or you just add a lot of printf() to the boot loader.
(some parts are required to fit in small code sizes to adding prints 
will cause overflow..)
best to read the docs and then the sources. then it wil become 
apparent to you

what you want to find out.





What about going through source code .. Is it better to
use Combination of Ecllipse/Qemu and FreeBSD Source tree?

Eclipse is an editor.  If you like it in particular, free free to use it,
otherwise pick something else you'd prefer to use for C code.


Does this method will provide us with someway to see how booting process

invokes

the kernel to memory ? Any help will be appreciated.

You're asking about the process here:


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html

...?  Frankly, none of these are especially big, start by reviewing the
source
code for 'em.



Yeah. this file provides me with the stages in theoretical way. How about
implementing it using qemu to emulate livecd to see what is going on boot0.
Do you have an idea about that ?

Good Luck,



Regards,
--
-Chuck




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