Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
on 31/08/2011 08:46 Adrian Chadd said the following: My 2c: * remove the page for now; * someone finds someone with proven marketing skills; * enlist their help in marketing, PR, etc, and update the website with relevant details; * the rest of us developers/users should go back to doing what we're good at :) Great plan! Also, there used to be (and still is) a www@ mailing list specifically for discussions about FreeBSD web site(s). I think that this thread belongs there. Oh, and I see that the originator of this thread has opened a PR about the page in question - right move! -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
On 08/31/11 08:59, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 31/08/2011 08:46 Adrian Chadd said the following: My 2c: * remove the page for now; * someone finds someone with proven marketing skills; * enlist their help in marketing, PR, etc, and update the website with relevant details; * the rest of us developers/users should go back to doing what we're good at :) Great plan! Also, there used to be (and still is) a www@ mailing list specifically for discussions about FreeBSD web site(s). I think that this thread belongs there. I aggree. Oh, and I see that the originator of this thread has opened a PR about the page in question - right move! Thanks, thought that was the only persitant action I could take care of. Oliver ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PHORONIX: OpenCL, GLSL Back-End For LLVM May Soon Open Up
On 08/30/11 23:26, K. Macy wrote: But the lack of response and non-shown interests shows a undeobtly signal that freeBSD seems to be dead for the HPC community and this could be also an indication for the lack of CUDA support by nVidia, Why performing efforts if no one cares? A great chance seems to have passed by ... I wouldn't read too much in to it. What was provided only fit a fairly narrow niche. Nvidia won't build their libraries on freebsd until we prove the market which is fairly hard to do when you have to jump through hoops just to get it to run and need to have a linux environment to build the apps. -Kip Isn't FreeBSD also a niche? oh ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PHORONIX: OpenCL, GLSL Back-End For LLVM May Soon Open Up
Guys (; Girls; small fuzzy creatures); We can talk about this forever, or someone can go over the existing 32 bit CUDA stuff in a 32 bit Linuxolator, get it all going, document it, and post it or all to use. Which do you think is going to be more productive? Adrian ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
I heard of that news, but I didn't realize that web site was managed by John Birrell. Now, DTrace is not feature-complete and stable, I don't think it is suitable to http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/dtrace.html, but to http://wiki.freebsd.org/DTrace, and people can easily update it 2011/8/31 Craig Rodrigues rodr...@crodrigues.org Hi, http://dtrace.what-creek.com no longer exists, because sadly, the author of that web page (John Birrell) is no longer with us: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2009-November/001284.html There are some other documentation pages available for DTrace on FreeBSD: http://wiki.freebsd.org/DTrace http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/dtrace.html If you have ideas for how to enhance this documentation, you should submit your ideas. The freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list is a good place to start. -- Craig Rodrigues rodr...@crodrigues.org On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Paul Ambrose ambrose...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, I am a Chinese and live in Chengdu, China, I can't have access to dtrace.what-creek.com because of GFW, so maybe I miss something. I started to use FreeBSD about 2.5 year ago, and learn FreeBSD kernel recently because of DTrace. I like it and I hope I can do something more ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
multimedia/gnome-mplayer doesn't compile
I use 9.0-BETA1 on my two PCs (amd64). On both of them, I can't upgrade gnome-mplayer to 1.0.0_2, after recent bump. My default compiler on both PCs is clang (version 20110717), but the same error happens when using the default GCC. The error message is: gui.c:475:58: error: too many arguments to function call, expected 3, have 4 gnome-mplayer, NULL); ^~~~ /usr/include/sys/_null.h:32:14: note: expanded from: #define NULL((void *)0) ^~~ /usr/local/include/libnotify/notification.h:114:1: note: 'notify_notification_new' declared here NotifyNotification *notify_notification_new (const char *summary, ^ gui.c:478:17: warning: implicit declaration of function 'notify_notification_attach_to_status_icon' is invalid in C99 [-Wimplicit-function-declaration] notify_notification_attach_to_status_icon(notification, status_icon); ^ gui.c:6420:22: warning: unused variable 'recent_filter' [-Wunused-variable] GtkRecentFilter *recent_filter; ^ ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
Am Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:54 -0400 schrieb Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net: the object is to show people *WHY* FreeBSD is a sound (and valid) choice against the competition, we can't just claim we're better because we know we are, we have to provide a convincing argument that is true and honest fact. Hi Chris and all the others, I want to suggest that you shouldn't compare every single feature about FreeBSD kernel. You should not also try to lie to people about vendor support, because it's not worth mentioning, when you compare it to many Linux distributions. Don't tell people there are games and don't tell them that FreeBSD can replace Microsoft Windows, please. I like to advertise FreeBSD, but I try to do it honestly, because it will send the wrong signals. You should compare what you can *DO* better with FreeBSD. And one thing that comes instantly into my mind is the FreeBSD port collection (for my part). I've tried various Linux distributions for years and there is no such thing as FreeBSD ports in Linux world (portage comes close, but it lacks integrity sometimes). And that's why after using other OSes, I always arrived back on FreeBSD. The effort which is going into ports is amazing and (for me) the most important part of the OS. FreeBSD is one of few systems where you can have configurable up-to-date applications and this is what I need. And this is mostly the reason why I use FreeBSD. I suggest that you look at the applications of FreeBSD in the world. How people use it and why the decided to use it. I heard many people prefer FreeBSD on web servers (yeah, Netcraft also says so). But why? You tell me that FreeBSD has the best IPv6 implementation? So what?! Please tell me what you do with it, when it's so great. Jails are nice, yes! There are surely scenarios where jails are needed above every other concept. Instead of telling people about lightweight virtualisation... tell them what others do with it. Many people are too dumb to understand technical or abstract concepts. They need examples to understand the features. -- Martin ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: x11/nvidia-driver / Compilation has failed
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 02:59:48PM +0200, Olivier Smedts wrote: 2011/8/29 ken k...@tydfam.jp: Could I test your patch for nvidia-driver, too? I cannot find your patch in this mail. I took the patch in : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2011-August/026515.html And it worked for me. Should be fixed in the port itself now (also updated to 280.13). ./danfe ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
On 08/31/11 14:07, Martin Sugioarto wrote: Am Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:54 -0400 schrieb Chris Brennanxa...@xaerolimit.net: the object is to show people *WHY* FreeBSD is a sound (and valid) choice against the competition, we can't just claim we're better because we know we are, we have to provide a convincing argument that is true and honest fact. Hi Chris and all the others, I want to suggest that you shouldn't compare every single feature about FreeBSD kernel. You should not also try to lie to people about vendor support, because it's not worth mentioning, when you compare it to many Linux distributions. Don't tell people there are games and don't tell them that FreeBSD can replace Microsoft Windows, please. I like to advertise FreeBSD, but I try to do it honestly, because it will send the wrong signals. You should compare what you can *DO* better with FreeBSD. And one thing that comes instantly into my mind is the FreeBSD port collection (for my part). I've tried various Linux distributions for years and there is no such thing as FreeBSD ports in Linux world (portage comes close, but it lacks integrity sometimes). And that's why after using other OSes, I always arrived back on FreeBSD. The effort which is going into ports is amazing and (for me) the most important part of the OS. FreeBSD is one of few systems where you can have configurable up-to-date applications and this is what I need. And this is mostly the reason why I use FreeBSD. Better is relative. People who are supposed to compile or were supposed to compile their software in the past are better with freeBSD. Those people looking for a Windows alternative used to get binaries do not care about configuring. They'd like to have running software, getting it with the ease of a mouse click. I was never able to convince people about the control they have since they won't have to have it! But you made a striking point! With the BSD ports system, a niche has been covered up which may be very important for people like you and me. And this is a certain point were is no better or worse', since it is a complete different philosophy. And I would like to see a mixture of some comparisons, even if they are slightly worse for FreeBSD, but supported by reasonable numbers and those basic paradigms. Thinking is: if an OS is approximately 10% slower in a certain benchmark I favor for future mission-usage of the OS, say file I/O or network, I wouldn't care if I have the uncompensated advantage to control software settings and others. I suggest that you look at the applications of FreeBSD in the world. How people use it and why the decided to use it. I heard many people prefer FreeBSD on web servers (yeah, Netcraft also says so). But why? You tell me that FreeBSD has the best IPv6 implementation? So what?! Please tell me what you do with it, when it's so great. There was a time, I recall it was the end-nineties of the last century, when there were many network-performance benchmarks floating around, comparing FreeBSD's incedible network stack to others. There were many benchmarks, not even one. Since Linux and Windows gained up, it became quiet around FreeBSD. The last field benchmark I saw was presented by Kris Kenneway, as far as I remember and he presented some benchmarks comparing MySQL running on FreeBSD 6/7 and Linux. I'm not completely sure about that. Jails are nice, yes! There are surely scenarios where jails are needed above every other concept. Instead of telling people about lightweight virtualisation... tell them what others do with it. Many people are too dumb to understand technical or abstract concepts. They need examples to understand the features. -- Martin Or they need some hints already written by others like this: http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Health-Check-FreeBSD-The-unknown-giant-920248.html I'm not sure whether this is linked on the project's webpage, I didn't find it when I searched it. Oliver ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
truss
It seems to be truss(1) is broken on current :~ truss /bin/echo x x truss: can not get etype: No such process FreeBSD 9.0-BETA1 #0 r224884M i386 from ktrace of turss 3162 trussCALL __sysctl(0xbfbfea00,0x4,0xbfbfe9e0,0xbfbfea10,0,0) 3162 trussSCTL kern.proc.sv_name.3163 3162 trussRET __sysctl -1 errno 3 No such process -- Anton Yuzhaninov ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
On Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:15:33 Hartmann, O. wrote: Or they need some hints already written by others like this: http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Health-Check-FreeBSD-The-unknown-gian t-920248.html I'm not sure whether this is linked on the project's webpage, I didn't find it when I searched it. Oliver As I did the commit (at least I think I did...): Yes, it is on our homepage. Even on the main page on FreeBSD.org - section In the media. jkois -- Johann Kois jkois(at)FreeBSD.org FreeBSD Documentation Project FreeBSD German Documentation Project - https://doc.bsdgroup.de signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
On 8/31/2011 8:07 AM, Martin Sugioarto wrote: Am Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:54 -0400 schrieb Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net: the object is to show people *WHY* FreeBSD is a sound (and valid) choice against the competition, we can't just claim we're better because we know we are, we have to provide a convincing argument that is true and honest fact. Hi Chris and all the others, I want to suggest that you shouldn't compare every single feature about FreeBSD kernel. You should not also try to lie to people about vendor support, because it's not worth mentioning, when you compare it to many Linux distributions. Don't tell people there are games and don't tell them that FreeBSD can replace Microsoft Windows, please. My argument wasn't designed to compare every little feature of FreeBSD to other OS's of choice, but to show, in an overall comparison where FreeBSD stands, both positive and negative in retrospect to our competition. That can give us a look at the system as it is and see what's broke, not in real time, but in a post-time aspect, as the competition may see it. I *never* advocated we lie to anyone, perhaps you misunderstood me when I was saying we should be *honest* about the comparison. But I am left with two questions now; 1. Why should we not tell them that games are available on FreeBSD? 2. Why should we not advocate *BSD or Linux as an alternative to Windows? OS X? As to Vender support, all I think we should do is a simple list (with links) of who is confirmed as to use FreeBSD. Of course this would direct traffic, so we would need to take care as to make sure that a) FreeBSD could handle the traffic from Vendors directing people to freebsd.org and that b) they can handle the traffic we direct to them. It would look bad for both us and them if one or the other cause one (or both) to disappear due to a traffic overload. (In reality, this might not happen, but better to expect the worst...) I like to advertise FreeBSD, but I try to do it honestly, because it will send the wrong signals. My arguments were for an honest comparison, and I thought I made that *abundantly* clear. I guess I missed something when I proofread my e-mail. You should compare what you can *DO* better with FreeBSD. And one thing that comes instantly into my mind is the FreeBSD port collection (for my part). I've tried various Linux distributions for years and there is no such thing as FreeBSD ports in Linux world (portage comes close, but it lacks integrity sometimes). And that's why after using other OSes, I always arrived back on FreeBSD. The effort which is going into ports is amazing and (for me) the most important part of the OS. FreeBSD is one of few systems where you can have configurable up-to-date applications and this is what I need. And this is mostly the reason why I use FreeBSD. Absolutely, you are correct. FreeBSD Port collection is a diamond in the rough, the gem that gives us light (in a sense at last). Gentoo's portage does come close, and it does this because the concept is based on the FreeBSD Ports collection. I suggest that you look at the applications of FreeBSD in the world. How people use it and why the decided to use it. I heard many people prefer FreeBSD on web servers (yeah, Netcraft also says so). But why? One thing FreeBSD will always have over Linux, OS X and Windows is Age, we all will get older, but FreeBSD will still be the eldest child. With age comes Wisdom? There are all kinds of adages to go here, take your pick, fill in the black, use what ever floats your boat. But you are right, testimonials would be ideal, but they have an inherent flaw in them. They can be easily faked. So how do we get passed this? You tell me that FreeBSD has the best IPv6 implementation? So what?! Please tell me what you do with it, when it's so great. I can't answer this one, I know very little about IPv6 still, but I agree, you do make a valid argument, we should be told what we can do with it in plain speak, not technobable that will confuse the uninitiated, which would be unfair to them. The handbook does try to cover this concept, by usage language that is familiar to a broad spectrum of people. Maybe some of this should be reviewed and updated? Jails are nice, yes! There are surely scenarios where jails are needed above every other concept. Instead of telling people about lightweight virtualisation... tell them what others do with it. Sure, no reason not to. Maybe a FreeBSD sanctioned (and maintained) howto guide for the (above) uninitiated that teaches end-users how to use jails from the start, from an absolutely fresh install of FreeBSD, start with jailing the most obvious services and then move to a loose construct that will allow them to jail other services on their own. Show them how, hold their hand (at first) and then give them the tools to do the work on their own. If they get stuck, they can always fallback to that howto guide where they know
9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX
GDB: no debug ports present KDB: debugger backends: ddb KDB: current backend: ddb Copyright (c) 1992-2011 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 9.0-BETA2 #0: Wed Aug 31 06:47:57 PDT 2011 root@chuckles.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MESH i386 WARNING: DIAGNOSTIC option enabled, expect reduced performance. CPU: Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by AMD PCS (498.06-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x5a2 Family = 5 Model = a Stepping = 2 Features=0x88a93dFPU,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,CX8,SEP,PGE,CMOV,CLFLUSH,MMX AMD Features=0xc040MMX+,3DNow!+,3DNow! real memory = 268435456 (256 MB) avail memory = 223870976 (213 MB) pnpbios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum wlan: mac acl policy registered K6-family MTRR support enabled (2 registers) cryptosoft0: software crypto on motherboard pcib0: Host to PCI bridge pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: PCI bus on pcib0 Geode LX: PC Engines ALIX.3 v0.99h tinyBIOS V1.4a (C)1997-2007 glxsb0: AMD Geode LX Security Block (AES-128-CBC, RNG) mem 0xefff4000-0xefff7fff irq 9 at device 1.2 on pci0 vr0: VIA VT6105M Rhine III 10/100BaseTX port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0xe000-0xe0ff irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0 vr0: Quirks: 0x2 vr0: Revision: 0x96 miibus0: MII bus on vr0 ukphy0: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface PHY 1 on miibus0 ukphy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto vr0: Ethernet address: 00:0d:b9:19:57:e4 pci0: network, ethernet at device 12.0 (no driver attached) isab0: PCI-ISA bridge port 0x6000-0x6007,0x6100-0x61ff,0x6200-0x623f,0x9d00-0x9d7f,0x9c00-0x9c3f at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 atapci0: AMD CS5536 UDMA100 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xff00-0xff0f at device 15.2 on pci0 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0 ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0 pci0: serial bus, USB at device 15.4 (no driver attached) pci0: serial bus, USB at device 15.5 (no driver attached) cpu0 on motherboard pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xe-0xea7ff pnpid ORM on isa0 uart0: 16550 or compatible at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 uart0: console (38400,n,8,1) uart1: 16550 or compatible at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 panic: No usable event timer found! KDB: stack backtrace: X_db_sym_numargs(c07205cd) at 0xc044c705 = X_db_sym_numargs+0x135 kdb_backtrace(c2820d38,1,fff,c2820d40,c06d0d6a,...) at 0xc056e498 = kdb_backtrace+0x28 panic(c0746b08,c074bfe8,fff,c2820d48,c06d6378,...) at 0xc05460e2 = panic+0xa2 cpu_initclocks_bsp(c2820d60,c050834b,c078f8b4,c0718b46,0,...) at 0xc06d0d6a = cpu_initclocks_bsp+0xfa cpu_initclocks(c078f8b4,c0718b46,0,0,c2820d78,...) at 0xc06d6378 = cpu_initclocks+0x8 hardclock_sync(0,281ec00,281e000,2825000,0,...) at 0xc050834b = hardclock_sync+0x3b mi_startup() at 0xc0506229 = mi_startup+0xa9 btext() at 0xc043f7e5 = btext+0x95 KDB: enter: panic [ thread pid 0 tid 10 ] Stopped at 0xc056e2a4 = kdb_enter+0x34:movl$0,0xc079f874 = kdb_why db ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
9.0B1 Installer issues
Recently did a clean install of 9.0B1 into a 900gb VMware image. 1. The mount path shown on the screen gets truncated if it's longer than 8 characters. See /usr/ports on the image at http://www.fuzzwad.org/FreeBSD-9.0B1/fbsdinstall1.png It does mount correctly but it'd be more useful to see the whole path than all the blue background in this screen. 2. Creating a 4gb filesystem for /usr/ports does not generate enough inodes to untar ports.txz into. http://www.fuzzwad.org/FreeBSD-9.0B1/fbsdinstall2.png This may not be an installer issue per se, but does need to be addressed. I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants separate filesystems for ports [and src and obj]. 3. A minor nit... no screen image for this one so I hope my explanation suffices. From the screen shown in 1 above [and on a disk with some unallocated space :) ], press Create. The top line says freebsd-ufs with the cursor on the f, and you're in insert mode. I either have to arrow out to the end of the line, then backspace; or type in what I want, then delete the rest. Two ways to make this more friendly. A] Place the cursor at the end of the line. B] Leave it at the beginning, but if anything but arrow keys are pressed [and you're at the beginning of the line], delete the text after the cursor. -- Ron McDowell San Antonio TX ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: possible mountroot regression
on 27/08/2011 18:16 Marcel Moolenaar said the following:
Maybe a good approach is to change to .onfail retry
and extend the root mount prompt with a reboot command,
so that the user/operator is does not have to worry
about typos *and* don't have to trigger a panic just
so that he/she can initiate a reboot.
Thoughts?
Perhaps...
Just reporting what happens if .onfail panic is changed to .onfail retry.
- if a mounting of a manually entered fs fails, then a value in
vfs.mountroot.from
would be retried before presenting the prompt again
- the above happens regardless of whether -a option was given or mounting of
${vfs.mountroot.from} failed
- there is no way of the prompt (as you noted above) - previously an empty input
was the way out
So, even if .onfail retry is an improvement comparing to .onfail panic, it's
still
a regression comparing to the previous behavior.
--
Andriy Gapon
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No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX)
Just to clarify for Edgar, His 9.0 build isn't finding any valid timers; hence why the thing panics upon boot. Since I've got a few Alix boards I'd like to use for 11n testing, i'd like to know how to make this work. Does anyone know the relevant magic to see which timers are available, and force enable something that'll work? Adrian On 31 August 2011 22:33, Edgar Martinez emarti...@kbcnetworks.com wrote: GDB: no debug ports present KDB: debugger backends: ddb KDB: current backend: ddb Copyright (c) 1992-2011 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 9.0-BETA2 #0: Wed Aug 31 06:47:57 PDT 2011 root@chuckles.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MESH i386 WARNING: DIAGNOSTIC option enabled, expect reduced performance. CPU: Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by AMD PCS (498.06-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x5a2 Family = 5 Model = a Stepping = 2 Features=0x88a93dFPU,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,CX8,SEP,PGE,CMOV,CLFLUSH,MMX AMD Features=0xc040MMX+,3DNow!+,3DNow! real memory = 268435456 (256 MB) avail memory = 223870976 (213 MB) pnpbios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum wlan: mac acl policy registered K6-family MTRR support enabled (2 registers) cryptosoft0: software crypto on motherboard pcib0: Host to PCI bridge pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: PCI bus on pcib0 Geode LX: PC Engines ALIX.3 v0.99h tinyBIOS V1.4a (C)1997-2007 glxsb0: AMD Geode LX Security Block (AES-128-CBC, RNG) mem 0xefff4000-0xefff7fff irq 9 at device 1.2 on pci0 vr0: VIA VT6105M Rhine III 10/100BaseTX port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0xe000-0xe0ff irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0 vr0: Quirks: 0x2 vr0: Revision: 0x96 miibus0: MII bus on vr0 ukphy0: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface PHY 1 on miibus0 ukphy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto vr0: Ethernet address: 00:0d:b9:19:57:e4 pci0: network, ethernet at device 12.0 (no driver attached) isab0: PCI-ISA bridge port 0x6000-0x6007,0x6100-0x61ff,0x6200-0x623f,0x9d00-0x9d7f,0x9c00-0x9c3f at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 atapci0: AMD CS5536 UDMA100 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xff00-0xff0f at device 15.2 on pci0 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0 ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0 pci0: serial bus, USB at device 15.4 (no driver attached) pci0: serial bus, USB at device 15.5 (no driver attached) cpu0 on motherboard pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xe-0xea7ff pnpid ORM on isa0 uart0: 16550 or compatible at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 uart0: console (38400,n,8,1) uart1: 16550 or compatible at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 panic: No usable event timer found! KDB: stack backtrace: X_db_sym_numargs(c07205cd) at 0xc044c705 = X_db_sym_numargs+0x135 kdb_backtrace(c2820d38,1,fff,c2820d40,c06d0d6a,...) at 0xc056e498 = kdb_backtrace+0x28 panic(c0746b08,c074bfe8,fff,c2820d48,c06d6378,...) at 0xc05460e2 = panic+0xa2 cpu_initclocks_bsp(c2820d60,c050834b,c078f8b4,c0718b46,0,...) at 0xc06d0d6a = cpu_initclocks_bsp+0xfa cpu_initclocks(c078f8b4,c0718b46,0,0,c2820d78,...) at 0xc06d6378 = cpu_initclocks+0x8 hardclock_sync(0,281ec00,281e000,2825000,0,...) at 0xc050834b = hardclock_sync+0x3b mi_startup() at 0xc0506229 = mi_startup+0xa9 btext() at 0xc043f7e5 = btext+0x95 KDB: enter: panic [ thread pid 0 tid 10 ] Stopped at 0xc056e2a4 = kdb_enter+0x34: movl $0,0xc079f874 = kdb_why db ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
howto: enabling journaling on softupdates
I try to find a suitable reading/howto for how to enable softupdates on UFS2 filesystems. As I could see, SU+J is enlisted to be enabled by default in 9.0-RELEASE. What is the status quo of that? I've several active systems running UFS2 on their system disks while data/home/mass storage is ZFS. Are their any issue with SU+J? well, the captitalized letters confused me first time, since the first newfs-option I hit was -J, the option for enabling softupdate via GEOM gjournal. Is there any special preparation to bring up an existing filesystem securely into journaling? As I read the blogs and emails in the list, it should be as simple as booting into single user mode, enabling on all partitions in question (even / ?) via -j softupdate-journaling, runing a foreground fsck, reboot ... that's it? Or is there any other additional preparation like mentioned in gjournal (async mount)? Thanks for patience and repsonding, Oliver ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Martin Sugioarto mar...@sugioarto.com wrote: Am Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:54 -0400 schrieb Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net: ... You should compare what you can *DO* better with FreeBSD. And one thing that comes instantly into my mind is the FreeBSD port collection (for my part). I've tried various Linux distributions for years and there is no such thing as FreeBSD ports in Linux world (portage comes close, but it lacks integrity sometimes). Sadly, recent versions of portage actually have exceeded ports in terms of ease of use and non-breakage. I would have agreed with you 3-4 years ago, but the status quo has changed. That being said, even though upgrades work 99% of the time without fault in Gentoo portage, it's still way too complicated of a system for most users to work with on a day to day basis. And that's why after using other OSes, I always arrived back on FreeBSD. The effort which is going into ports is amazing and (for me) the most important part of the OS. FreeBSD is one of few systems where you can have configurable up-to-date applications and this is what I need. And this is mostly the reason why I use FreeBSD. Most people wouldn't necessarily agree because apart from the breadth of packages in ports, the infrastructure needs a serious overhaul to be used by less seasoned Unix folks. I suggest that you look at the applications of FreeBSD in the world. How people use it and why the decided to use it. I heard many people prefer FreeBSD on web servers (yeah, Netcraft also says so). But why? You tell me that FreeBSD has the best IPv6 implementation? So what?! Please tell me what you do with it, when it's so great. Jails are nice, yes! There are surely scenarios where jails are needed above every other concept. Instead of telling people about lightweight virtualisation... tell them what others do with it. Many people are too dumb to understand technical or abstract concepts. I don't think it's that users are dumb -- just uneducated. Many people lack the time or interest to try out new OSes that don't just work (tm) out of the box. They need examples to understand the features. Agreed. Thanks! -Garrett ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@rktmb.org wrote: On 08/30/2011 08:30 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote: I would be scared away by such an arrogant looking page! So, refactoring this page is a must. 1°) Put it offline? (i.e with a At work placeholder) 2°) Process a feature list on one table column, leaving N columns emtpy for N other OS, waiting for skills to contribute? Yes and yes. I would start out with the FreeBSD highlights first and foremost, then we can move on to compare it (in a positive light) to other contemporary OSes. Thanks! -Garrett ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@rktmb.org wrote: On 08/29/2011 10:58 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: If that page would be updated at least monthly giving fair comparison with other os'es it could serve a big pros list for preferring FreeBSD over other systems. I dont think a monthly update is the good solution. A per release update is better, as far as releases bring a new set that could be compared. Then, a deep knwoledge of the other OSes is required in order to keep credit. I think it's a huge amount of work, that should be assigned to the project itself. IMHO, Let's delegate this task to Wikipedia or StackOverflow... I disagree. Wikipedia isn't a good definitive source of knowledge. StackOverflow from what I've seen is good at answering questions, but not for advocating particular OSes. What we need is: 1. An advocate for FreeBSD. 2. One or more unbiased third parties who can talk about the pros and cons of FreeBSD vs other OSes. If our OS gets really good in some of the areas that have been identified as gaps, then the two groups will effectively converge over time. Thanks, -Garrett ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
On 8/31/2011 1:43 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@rktmb.org wrote: On 08/30/2011 08:30 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote: I would be scared away by such an arrogant looking page! So, refactoring this page is a must. 1°) Put it offline? (i.e with a At work placeholder) 2°) Process a feature list on one table column, leaving N columns emtpy for N other OS, waiting for skills to contribute? Yes and yes. I would start out with the FreeBSD highlights first and foremost, then we can move on to compare it (in a positive light) to other contemporary OSes. It should be noted on the FreeBSD side of the comparison, whom has borrowed concepts from FreeBSD, such as the network stack or Gentoo's Portage system (just to name a few that come to mind.) -- Chris Brennan -- A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? http://xkcd.com/84/ | http://xkcd.com/149/ | http://xkcd.com/549/ GPG: D5B20C0C (6741 8EE4 6C7D 11FB 8DA8 9E4A EECD 9A84 D5B2 0C0C) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: 9.0B1 Installer issues
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Ron McDowell r...@fuzzwad.org wrote: Recently did a clean install of 9.0B1 into a 900gb VMware image. ... 3. A minor nit... no screen image for this one so I hope my explanation suffices. From the screen shown in 1 above [and on a disk with some unallocated space :) ], press Create. The top line says freebsd-ufs with the cursor on the f, and you're in insert mode. I either have to arrow out to the end of the line, then backspace; or type in what I want, then delete the rest. Two ways to make this more friendly. A] Place the cursor at the end of the line. B] Leave it at the beginning, but if anything but arrow keys are pressed [and you're at the beginning of the line], delete the text after the cursor. This is an issue with the new libdialog. I agree and I already noted this to Nathan and the upstream maintainer. -Garrett ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX)
On 8/31/2011 12:27 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: Just to clarify for Edgar, His 9.0 build isn't finding any valid timers; hence why the thing panics upon boot. Since I've got a few Alix boards I'd like to use for 11n testing, i'd like to know how to make this work. Does anyone know the relevant magic to see which timers are available, and force enable something that'll work? Strange, I had just tried with a Soekris not long ago and it was happy with Beta1 and 2 csuping... updating... and it still works. dmesg.txt at http://www.tancsa.com/beta2.html What if you add option CPU_GEODE option CPU_SOEKRIS to the kernel ? I think actually only one is needed, but I forget which one. ---Mike -- --- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, m...@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: howto: enabling journaling on softupdates
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Hartmann, O. ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: I try to find a suitable reading/howto for how to enable softupdates on UFS2 filesystems. Agreed. Added to http://wiki.freebsd.org/DocsFor9x . As I could see, SU+J is enlisted to be enabled by default in 9.0-RELEASE. Yes, it is on by default in bsdinstall (and I think in newfs? I could be wrong). What is the status quo of that? I've several active systems running UFS2 on their system disks while data/home/mass storage is ZFS. Are their any issue with SU+J? I haven't been tracking what's been going on, but several bugfixes have gone in in the last couple of months post-SUJ. There might be some bugs in the work, but most standard operations work out of the box for me at least. ... I hit was -J, the option for enabling softupdate via GEOM gjournal. Yeah, it's confusing.. Is there any special preparation to bring up an existing filesystem securely into journaling? As I read the blogs and emails in the list, it should be as simple as booting into single user mode, enabling on all partitions in question (even / ?) Yes. via -j softupdate-journaling, runing a foreground fsck, reboot ... that's it? If all goes well, that was the entire process IIRC. Or is there any other additional preparation like mentioned in gjournal (async mount)? ENOCLUE (because I'm not aware of that with gjournal -- the last time I tried setting it up things didn't work too well for me) :). Thanks for patience and repsonding, Sure :)! -Garrett ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
On 08/31/11 19:48, Chris Brennan wrote: On 8/31/2011 1:43 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby [1]miham...@rktmb.org wrote: On 08/30/2011 08:30 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote: I would be scared away by such an arrogant looking page! So, refactoring this page is a must. 1°) Put it offline? (i.e with a At work placeholder) 2°) Process a feature list on one table column, leaving N columns emtpy for N other OS, waiting for skills to contribute? Yes and yes. I would start out with the FreeBSD highlights first and foremost, then we can move on to compare it (in a positive light) to other contemporary OSes. It should be noted on the FreeBSD side of the comparison, whom has borrowed concepts from FreeBSD, such as the network stack or Gentoo's Portage system (just to name a few that come to mind.) Oh yes ... and maybe those, who incorporated silently BSD stuff like the TCP/IP stack - like M$. References 1. mailto:miham...@rktmb.org ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: ... It should be noted on the FreeBSD side of the comparison, whom has borrowed concepts from FreeBSD, such as the network stack or Gentoo's Portage system (just to name a few that come to mind.) It's good for historical references and flame wars when people say BSD sucks, but it doesn't help us get the shiny which we need for new users. Sell people on the architecture and ease of use, and they'll love you for it. Don't overcomplicate things should be our motto. Thanks, -Garrett ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: howto: enabling journaling on softupdates
On 08/31/11 19:56, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Hartmann, O. ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: I try to find a suitable reading/howto for how to enable softupdates on UFS2 filesystems. Agreed. Added to http://wiki.freebsd.org/DocsFor9x . Many thanks. As I could see, SU+J is enlisted to be enabled by default in 9.0-RELEASE. Yes, it is on by default in bsdinstall (and I think in newfs? I could be wrong). Great! What is the status quo of that? I've several active systems running UFS2 on their system disks while data/home/mass storage is ZFS. Are their any issue with SU+J? I haven't been tracking what's been going on, but several bugfixes have gone in in the last couple of months post-SUJ. There might be some bugs in the work, but most standard operations work out of the box for me at least. ... I hit was -J, the option for enabling softupdate via GEOM gjournal. Yeah, it's confusing.. Is there any special preparation to bring up an existing filesystem securely into journaling? As I read the blogs and emails in the list, it should be as simple as booting into single user mode, enabling on all partitions in question (even / ?) Yes. via -j softupdate-journaling, runing a foreground fsck, reboot ... that's it? If all goes well, that was the entire process IIRC. To late ... ;-) I couldn't resist the temptation, shut down the box, reboot single user mode, enabled -j (the lower letter `j' !!!), did a full fsck -y ... rebooted ... Or is there any other additional preparation like mentioned in gjournal (async mount)? ENOCLUE (because I'm not aware of that with gjournal -- the last time I tried setting it up things didn't work too well for me) :). Thanks for patience and repsonding, Sure :)! -Garrett _ ... and here I am again with SU+J on my box ;-) Tomorrow, I will perform this step on all servers. I guess it's a worth having. Oliver ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Hartmann, O. ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: On 08/31/11 19:48, Chris Brennan wrote: On 8/31/2011 1:43 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby [1]miham...@rktmb.org wrote: On 08/30/2011 08:30 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote: I would be scared away by such an arrogant looking page! So, refactoring this page is a must. 1°) Put it offline? (i.e with a At work placeholder) 2°) Process a feature list on one table column, leaving N columns emtpy for N other OS, waiting for skills to contribute? Yes and yes. I would start out with the FreeBSD highlights first and foremost, then we can move on to compare it (in a positive light) to other contemporary OSes. It should be noted on the FreeBSD side of the comparison, whom has borrowed concepts from FreeBSD, such as the network stack or Gentoo's Portage system (just to name a few that come to mind.) Oh yes ... and maybe those, who incorporated silently BSD stuff like the TCP/IP stack - like M$. The list would be way too long. I know other Linux-based groups that have integrated drivers from FreeBSD as well for proprietary work. Thanks, -Garrett ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: truss
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Anton Yuzhaninov cit...@citrin.ru wrote:
It seems to be truss(1) is broken on current
I just tried with a newly build CURRENT, and no problem here.
[solskogen@friend ~]$ truss /bin/echo x
mmap(0x0,32768,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON,-1,0x0) =
34366255104 (0x800637000)
issetugid(0x800638015,0x80062cb5e,0x800848250,0x800848220,0xb4b7,0x0) = 0 (0x0)
open(/etc/libmap.conf,O_RDONLY,0666) ERR#2 'No such file or
directory'
open(/var/run/ld-elf.so.hints,O_RDONLY,057)= 3 (0x3)
read(3,Ehnt\^A\0\0\0\M^@\0\0\0-\0\0\0\0...,128) = 128 (0x80)
lseek(3,0x80,SEEK_SET) = 128 (0x80)
read(3,/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/lib/compat:/u...,45) = 45 (0x2d)
close(3) = 0 (0x0)
access(/lib/libc.so.7,0) = 0 (0x0)
open(/lib/libc.so.7,O_RDONLY,040734700)= 3 (0x3)
fstat(3,{ mode=-r--r--r-- ,inode=4830,size=1268472,blksize=131072 }) = 0 (0x0)
pread(0x3,0x80083a9a0,0x1000,0x0,0x101010101010101,0x8080808080808080)
= 4096 (0x1000)
mmap(0x0,3387392,PROT_NONE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON|MAP_NOCORE,-1,0x0) =
34368425984 (0x800849000)
mmap(0x800849000,1138688,PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_NOCORE,3,0x0)
= 34368425984 (0x800849000)
mmap(0x800b5f000,40960,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED,3,0x116000)
= 34371661824 (0x800b5f000)
mprotect(0x800b69000,110592,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE) = 0 (0x0)
close(3) = 0 (0x0)
sysarch(0x81,0x7fffd2f0,0x80063b0c8,0x0,0xffada580,0x800864b38)
= 0 (0x0)
munmap(0x80063e000,4096) = 0 (0x0)
mmap(0x0,102400,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON,-1,0x0) =
34366283776 (0x80063e000)
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,SIGHUP|SIGINT|SIGQUIT|SIGKILL|SIGPIPE|SIGALRM|SIGTERM|SIGURG|SIGSTOP|SIGTSTP|SIGCONT|SIGCHLD|SIGTTIN|SIGTTOU|SIGIO|SIGXCPU|SIGXFSZ|SIGVTALRM|SIGPROF|SIGWINCH|SIGINFO|SIGUSR1|SIGUSR2,0x0)
= 0 (0x0)
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0)
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,SIGHUP|SIGINT|SIGQUIT|SIGKILL|SIGPIPE|SIGALRM|SIGTERM|SIGURG|SIGSTOP|SIGTSTP|SIGCONT|SIGCHLD|SIGTTIN|SIGTTOU|SIGIO|SIGXCPU|SIGXFSZ|SIGVTALRM|SIGPROF|SIGWINCH|SIGINFO|SIGUSR1|SIGUSR2,0x0)
= 0 (0x0)
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0)
readlink(/etc/malloc.conf,aj,1024) = 2 (0x2)
issetugid(0x80093e153,0x7fffd550,0x6a,0x0,0x2,0x2) = 0 (0x0)
break(0x80) = 0 (0x0)
mmap(0x0,4194304,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON,-1,0x0) =
34371813376 (0x800b84000)
mmap(0x800f84000,507904,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON,-1,0x0)
= 34376007680 (0x800f84000)
munmap(0x800b84000,507904) = 0 (0x0)
x
writev(0x1,0x800c07040,0x2,0x7fffdd40,0x0,0x600d10) = 2 (0x2)
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,SIGHUP|SIGINT|SIGQUIT|SIGKILL|SIGPIPE|SIGALRM|SIGTERM|SIGURG|SIGSTOP|SIGTSTP|SIGCONT|SIGCHLD|SIGTTIN|SIGTTOU|SIGIO|SIGXCPU|SIGXFSZ|SIGVTALRM|SIGPROF|SIGWINCH|SIGINFO|SIGUSR1|SIGUSR2,0x0)
= 0 (0x0)
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0)
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,SIGHUP|SIGINT|SIGQUIT|SIGKILL|SIGPIPE|SIGALRM|SIGTERM|SIGURG|SIGSTOP|SIGTSTP|SIGCONT|SIGCHLD|SIGTTIN|SIGTTOU|SIGIO|SIGXCPU|SIGXFSZ|SIGVTALRM|SIGPROF|SIGWINCH|SIGINFO|SIGUSR1|SIGUSR2,0x0)
= 0 (0x0)
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0)
process exit, rval = 0
--
chs,
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/cdrom in /etc/fstab
Previous releases had a line in /etc/fstab for /cdrom. Please consider putting it back...it's just one more thing I have to remember to do post-install. -- Ron McDowell San Antonio TX ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
On 08/31/11 20:13, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Hartmann, O. ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: On 08/31/11 19:48, Chris Brennan wrote: On 8/31/2011 1:43 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby [1]miham...@rktmb.org wrote: On 08/30/2011 08:30 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote: I would be scared away by such an arrogant looking page! So, refactoring this page is a must. 1°) Put it offline? (i.e with a At work placeholder) 2°) Process a feature list on one table column, leaving N columns emtpy for N other OS, waiting for skills to contribute? Yes and yes. I would start out with the FreeBSD highlights first and foremost, then we can move on to compare it (in a positive light) to other contemporary OSes. It should be noted on the FreeBSD side of the comparison, whom has borrowed concepts from FreeBSD, such as the network stack or Gentoo's Portage system (just to name a few that come to mind.) Oh yes ... and maybe those, who incorporated silently BSD stuff like the TCP/IP stack - like M$. The list would be way too long. I know other Linux-based groups that have integrated drivers from FreeBSD as well for proprietary work. Thanks, -Garrett And claimed then it's GPLv3? ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX)
Nope..I rebuilt with both options..and just one at a time.. panic: No usable event timer found! KDB: stack backtrace: X_db_sym_numargs(c0758a2d) at 0xc0471f85 = X_db_sym_numargs+0x135 kdb_backtrace(c2820d38,1,fff,c2820d40,c070257a,...) at 0xc05a9c98 = kdb_backtrace+0x28 panic(c077df08,c078251c,fff,c2820d48,c0708b88,...) at 0xc0581322 = panic+0xa2 cpu_initclocks_bsp(c2820d60,c054358b,c07c8f14,c0750d2a,0,...) at 0xc070257a = cpu_initclocks_bsp+0xfa cpu_initclocks(c07c8f14,c0750d2a,0,0,c2820d78,...) at 0xc0708b88 = cpu_initclocks+0x8 hardclock_sync(0,281ec00,281e000,2825000,0,...) at 0xc054358b = hardclock_sync+0x3b mi_startup() at 0xc0541469 = mi_startup+0xa9 btext() at 0xc0447665 = btext+0x95 KDB: enter: panic [ thread pid 0 tid 10 ] Stopped at 0xc05a9aa4 = kdb_enter+0x34:movl$0,0xc07d93b4 = kdb_why Is still the result.. -Original Message- From: Mike Tancsa [mailto:m...@sentex.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:53 AM To: Adrian Chadd Cc: Edgar Martinez; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX) On 8/31/2011 12:27 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: Just to clarify for Edgar, His 9.0 build isn't finding any valid timers; hence why the thing panics upon boot. Since I've got a few Alix boards I'd like to use for 11n testing, i'd like to know how to make this work. Does anyone know the relevant magic to see which timers are available, and force enable something that'll work? Strange, I had just tried with a Soekris not long ago and it was happy with Beta1 and 2 csuping... updating... and it still works. dmesg.txt at http://www.tancsa.com/beta2.html What if you add option CPU_GEODE option CPU_SOEKRIS to the kernel ? I think actually only one is needed, but I forget which one. ---Mike -- --- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, m...@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX)
On 8/31/2011 3:25 PM, Edgar Martinez wrote: Nope..I rebuilt with both options..and just one at a time.. Strange, My kernel is not so different from GENERIC. I added it to the bottom of http://www.tancsa.com/beta2.html Perhaps its a different Alix box than mine that is causing the issue ? I tried with http://www.pcengines.ch/alix6f2.htm and http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d2.htm ---Mike panic: No usable event timer found! KDB: stack backtrace: X_db_sym_numargs(c0758a2d) at 0xc0471f85 = X_db_sym_numargs+0x135 kdb_backtrace(c2820d38,1,fff,c2820d40,c070257a,...) at 0xc05a9c98 = kdb_backtrace+0x28 panic(c077df08,c078251c,fff,c2820d48,c0708b88,...) at 0xc0581322 = panic+0xa2 cpu_initclocks_bsp(c2820d60,c054358b,c07c8f14,c0750d2a,0,...) at 0xc070257a = cpu_initclocks_bsp+0xfa cpu_initclocks(c07c8f14,c0750d2a,0,0,c2820d78,...) at 0xc0708b88 = cpu_initclocks+0x8 hardclock_sync(0,281ec00,281e000,2825000,0,...) at 0xc054358b = hardclock_sync+0x3b mi_startup() at 0xc0541469 = mi_startup+0xa9 btext() at 0xc0447665 = btext+0x95 KDB: enter: panic [ thread pid 0 tid 10 ] Stopped at 0xc05a9aa4 = kdb_enter+0x34:movl$0,0xc07d93b4 = kdb_why Is still the result.. -Original Message- From: Mike Tancsa [mailto:m...@sentex.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:53 AM To: Adrian Chadd Cc: Edgar Martinez; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX) On 8/31/2011 12:27 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: Just to clarify for Edgar, His 9.0 build isn't finding any valid timers; hence why the thing panics upon boot. Since I've got a few Alix boards I'd like to use for 11n testing, i'd like to know how to make this work. Does anyone know the relevant magic to see which timers are available, and force enable something that'll work? Strange, I had just tried with a Soekris not long ago and it was happy with Beta1 and 2 csuping... updating... and it still works. dmesg.txt at http://www.tancsa.com/beta2.html What if you add option CPU_GEODE option CPU_SOEKRIS to the kernel ? I think actually only one is needed, but I forget which one. ---Mike -- --- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, m...@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX)
On 8/31/2011 3:57 PM, Edgar Martinez wrote: Latest ALIX firmware? .99h? I'm using the below board... http://pcengines.ch/alix2d2.htm Thats pretty well the same board as me, except I dont have the 2 mini-pci slots. Mine comes up as Geode LX: PC Engines ALIX.2 v0.99h tinyBIOS V1.4a (C)1997-2007 vs Geode LX: PC Engines ALIX.3 v0.99h tinyBIOS V1.4a (C)1997-2007 Perhaps engage the PCEngine's folks to see what the difference is and if they know what might be up. ---Mike -Original Message- From: Mike Tancsa [mailto:m...@sentex.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:57 PM To: Edgar Martinez Cc: Adrian Chadd; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX) On 8/31/2011 3:25 PM, Edgar Martinez wrote: Nope..I rebuilt with both options..and just one at a time.. Strange, My kernel is not so different from GENERIC. I added it to the bottom of http://www.tancsa.com/beta2.html Perhaps its a different Alix box than mine that is causing the issue ? I tried with http://www.pcengines.ch/alix6f2.htm and http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d2.htm ---Mike panic: No usable event timer found! KDB: stack backtrace: X_db_sym_numargs(c0758a2d) at 0xc0471f85 = X_db_sym_numargs+0x135 kdb_backtrace(c2820d38,1,fff,c2820d40,c070257a,...) at 0xc05a9c98 = kdb_backtrace+0x28 panic(c077df08,c078251c,fff,c2820d48,c0708b88,...) at 0xc0581322 = panic+0xa2 cpu_initclocks_bsp(c2820d60,c054358b,c07c8f14,c0750d2a,0,...) at 0xc070257a = cpu_initclocks_bsp+0xfa cpu_initclocks(c07c8f14,c0750d2a,0,0,c2820d78,...) at 0xc0708b88 = cpu_initclocks+0x8 hardclock_sync(0,281ec00,281e000,2825000,0,...) at 0xc054358b = hardclock_sync+0x3b mi_startup() at 0xc0541469 = mi_startup+0xa9 btext() at 0xc0447665 = btext+0x95 KDB: enter: panic [ thread pid 0 tid 10 ] Stopped at 0xc05a9aa4 = kdb_enter+0x34:movl$0,0xc07d93b4 = kdb_why Is still the result.. -Original Message- From: Mike Tancsa [mailto:m...@sentex.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:53 AM To: Adrian Chadd Cc: Edgar Martinez; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX) On 8/31/2011 12:27 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: Just to clarify for Edgar, His 9.0 build isn't finding any valid timers; hence why the thing panics upon boot. Since I've got a few Alix boards I'd like to use for 11n testing, i'd like to know how to make this work. Does anyone know the relevant magic to see which timers are available, and force enable something that'll work? Strange, I had just tried with a Soekris not long ago and it was happy with Beta1 and 2 csuping... updating... and it still works. dmesg.txt at http://www.tancsa.com/beta2.html What if you add option CPU_GEODE option CPU_SOEKRIS to the kernel ? I think actually only one is needed, but I forget which one. ---Mike -- --- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, m...@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX)
(gdb) list *0xc05a9aa4
0xc05a9aa4 is in kdb_enter (/usr/src/sys/kern/subr_kdb.c:421).
416 if (kdb_dbbe != NULL kdb_active == 0) {
417 if (msg != NULL)
418 printf(KDB: enter: %s\n, msg);
419 kdb_why = why;
420 breakpoint();
421 kdb_why = KDB_WHY_UNSET;
422 }
423 }
424
425 /*
(gdb)
-Original Message-
From: Edgar Martinez
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:25 PM
To: 'Mike Tancsa'; Adrian Chadd
Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on
ALIX)
Nope..I rebuilt with both options..and just one at a time..
panic: No usable event timer found!
KDB: stack backtrace:
X_db_sym_numargs(c0758a2d) at 0xc0471f85 = X_db_sym_numargs+0x135
kdb_backtrace(c2820d38,1,fff,c2820d40,c070257a,...) at 0xc05a9c98 =
kdb_backtrace+0x28
panic(c077df08,c078251c,fff,c2820d48,c0708b88,...) at 0xc0581322 =
panic+0xa2
cpu_initclocks_bsp(c2820d60,c054358b,c07c8f14,c0750d2a,0,...) at 0xc070257a =
cpu_initclocks_bsp+0xfa
cpu_initclocks(c07c8f14,c0750d2a,0,0,c2820d78,...) at 0xc0708b88 =
cpu_initclocks+0x8
hardclock_sync(0,281ec00,281e000,2825000,0,...) at 0xc054358b =
hardclock_sync+0x3b
mi_startup() at 0xc0541469 = mi_startup+0xa9
btext() at 0xc0447665 = btext+0x95
KDB: enter: panic
[ thread pid 0 tid 10 ]
Stopped at 0xc05a9aa4 = kdb_enter+0x34:movl$0,0xc07d93b4 = kdb_why
Is still the result..
-Original Message-
From: Mike Tancsa [mailto:m...@sentex.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:53 AM
To: Adrian Chadd
Cc: Edgar Martinez; freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on
ALIX)
On 8/31/2011 12:27 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
Just to clarify for Edgar,
His 9.0 build isn't finding any valid timers; hence why the thing
panics upon boot.
Since I've got a few Alix boards I'd like to use for 11n testing, i'd
like to know how to make this work.
Does anyone know the relevant magic to see which timers are available,
and force enable something that'll work?
Strange,
I had just tried with a Soekris not long ago and it was happy with
Beta1 and 2 csuping... updating... and it still works. dmesg.txt at
http://www.tancsa.com/beta2.html
What if you add
option CPU_GEODE
option CPU_SOEKRIS
to the kernel ? I think actually only one is needed, but I forget which one.
---Mike
--
---
Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400
Sentex Communications, m...@sentex.net
Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net
Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/
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RE: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX)
Latest ALIX firmware? .99h? I'm using the below board... http://pcengines.ch/alix2d2.htm -Original Message- From: Mike Tancsa [mailto:m...@sentex.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:57 PM To: Edgar Martinez Cc: Adrian Chadd; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX) On 8/31/2011 3:25 PM, Edgar Martinez wrote: Nope..I rebuilt with both options..and just one at a time.. Strange, My kernel is not so different from GENERIC. I added it to the bottom of http://www.tancsa.com/beta2.html Perhaps its a different Alix box than mine that is causing the issue ? I tried with http://www.pcengines.ch/alix6f2.htm and http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d2.htm ---Mike panic: No usable event timer found! KDB: stack backtrace: X_db_sym_numargs(c0758a2d) at 0xc0471f85 = X_db_sym_numargs+0x135 kdb_backtrace(c2820d38,1,fff,c2820d40,c070257a,...) at 0xc05a9c98 = kdb_backtrace+0x28 panic(c077df08,c078251c,fff,c2820d48,c0708b88,...) at 0xc0581322 = panic+0xa2 cpu_initclocks_bsp(c2820d60,c054358b,c07c8f14,c0750d2a,0,...) at 0xc070257a = cpu_initclocks_bsp+0xfa cpu_initclocks(c07c8f14,c0750d2a,0,0,c2820d78,...) at 0xc0708b88 = cpu_initclocks+0x8 hardclock_sync(0,281ec00,281e000,2825000,0,...) at 0xc054358b = hardclock_sync+0x3b mi_startup() at 0xc0541469 = mi_startup+0xa9 btext() at 0xc0447665 = btext+0x95 KDB: enter: panic [ thread pid 0 tid 10 ] Stopped at 0xc05a9aa4 = kdb_enter+0x34:movl$0,0xc07d93b4 = kdb_why Is still the result.. -Original Message- From: Mike Tancsa [mailto:m...@sentex.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:53 AM To: Adrian Chadd Cc: Edgar Martinez; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX) On 8/31/2011 12:27 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: Just to clarify for Edgar, His 9.0 build isn't finding any valid timers; hence why the thing panics upon boot. Since I've got a few Alix boards I'd like to use for 11n testing, i'd like to know how to make this work. Does anyone know the relevant magic to see which timers are available, and force enable something that'll work? Strange, I had just tried with a Soekris not long ago and it was happy with Beta1 and 2 csuping... updating... and it still works. dmesg.txt at http://www.tancsa.com/beta2.html What if you add option CPU_GEODE option CPU_SOEKRIS to the kernel ? I think actually only one is needed, but I forget which one. ---Mike -- --- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, m...@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX)
I have a debug kernel built..anything I can do in the meantime? I imagine Pascal will be sleeping right about now. -Original Message- From: Mike Tancsa [mailto:m...@sentex.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:12 PM To: Edgar Martinez Cc: Adrian Chadd; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX) On 8/31/2011 3:57 PM, Edgar Martinez wrote: Latest ALIX firmware? .99h? I'm using the below board... http://pcengines.ch/alix2d2.htm Thats pretty well the same board as me, except I dont have the 2 mini-pci slots. Mine comes up as Geode LX: PC Engines ALIX.2 v0.99h tinyBIOS V1.4a (C)1997-2007 vs Geode LX: PC Engines ALIX.3 v0.99h tinyBIOS V1.4a (C)1997-2007 Perhaps engage the PCEngine's folks to see what the difference is and if they know what might be up. ---Mike -Original Message- From: Mike Tancsa [mailto:m...@sentex.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:57 PM To: Edgar Martinez Cc: Adrian Chadd; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX) On 8/31/2011 3:25 PM, Edgar Martinez wrote: Nope..I rebuilt with both options..and just one at a time.. Strange, My kernel is not so different from GENERIC. I added it to the bottom of http://www.tancsa.com/beta2.html Perhaps its a different Alix box than mine that is causing the issue ? I tried with http://www.pcengines.ch/alix6f2.htm and http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d2.htm ---Mike panic: No usable event timer found! KDB: stack backtrace: X_db_sym_numargs(c0758a2d) at 0xc0471f85 = X_db_sym_numargs+0x135 kdb_backtrace(c2820d38,1,fff,c2820d40,c070257a,...) at 0xc05a9c98 = kdb_backtrace+0x28 panic(c077df08,c078251c,fff,c2820d48,c0708b88,...) at 0xc0581322 = panic+0xa2 cpu_initclocks_bsp(c2820d60,c054358b,c07c8f14,c0750d2a,0,...) at 0xc070257a = cpu_initclocks_bsp+0xfa cpu_initclocks(c07c8f14,c0750d2a,0,0,c2820d78,...) at 0xc0708b88 = cpu_initclocks+0x8 hardclock_sync(0,281ec00,281e000,2825000,0,...) at 0xc054358b = hardclock_sync+0x3b mi_startup() at 0xc0541469 = mi_startup+0xa9 btext() at 0xc0447665 = btext+0x95 KDB: enter: panic [ thread pid 0 tid 10 ] Stopped at 0xc05a9aa4 = kdb_enter+0x34:movl$0,0xc07d93b4 = kdb_why Is still the result.. -Original Message- From: Mike Tancsa [mailto:m...@sentex.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:53 AM To: Adrian Chadd Cc: Edgar Martinez; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX) On 8/31/2011 12:27 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: Just to clarify for Edgar, His 9.0 build isn't finding any valid timers; hence why the thing panics upon boot. Since I've got a few Alix boards I'd like to use for 11n testing, i'd like to know how to make this work. Does anyone know the relevant magic to see which timers are available, and force enable something that'll work? Strange, I had just tried with a Soekris not long ago and it was happy with Beta1 and 2 csuping... updating... and it still works. dmesg.txt at http://www.tancsa.com/beta2.html What if you add option CPU_GEODE option CPU_SOEKRIS to the kernel ? I think actually only one is needed, but I forget which one. ---Mike -- --- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, m...@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No valid timers found on ALIX (was Re: 9.0-BETA2 - Kernel Panic on ALIX)
This the key here: atrtc0: at port 0x70 irq 8 on isa0 Event timer RTC frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 Edgar, are you missing a device entry for the RTC? Do you have device.hints in /boot ? GENERIC.hints:hint.atrtc.0.at=isa GENERIC.hints:hint.atrtc.0.port=0x70 GENERIC.hints:hint.atrtc.0.irq=8 And do you have device atpic? That seems to be what compiles in atrtc. Adrian ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
