Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-11 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 10/10/2012 23:20, Vincent Hoffman wrote:
 That's if you were to patch an already installed copy of portmaster.
  The patch is designed to be placed in
 
  ${PORTSDIR}/ports-mgmt/portmaster/files/
 
  so it would be applied as part of the normal process of building the
  portmaster port. In which case portmaster.sh.in is definitely the
  correct target.

 Actually not so, maybe something has changed recently?

I stand corrected.  Looks like Bryan switched things around a bit when
he imported everything to GitHub.

I'll fix the patch pro-tem although it should become redundant Real Soon
Now.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Call for bge(4) testers

2012-10-11 Thread YongHyeon PYUN
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 11:10:23AM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote:
 On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 15:59 -0700, YongHyeon PYUN wrote:
  Sean, do you have a box with BCM5703/5704/5714/5715 controller?
 
 I have a 5704C in an HP DL380G4 here that seems to be working.  I'll
 have to poke around further to see what else I have lying around.
 
 bge0: HP NC7782 Gigabit Server Adapter, ASIC rev. 0x002100 mem
 0xfdef-0xfdef irq 25 at device 1.0 on pci3
 bge0: CHIP ID 0x2100; ASIC REV 0x02; CHIP REV 0x21; PCI-X 133 MHz
 miibus0: MII bus on bge0
 brgphy0: BCM5704 1000BASE-T media interface PHY 1 on miibus0
 brgphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT,
 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto, auto-flow
 bge0: Ethernet address: 00:0f:20:f6:e6:23
 bge1: HP NC7782 Gigabit Server Adapter, ASIC rev. 0x002100 mem
 0xfdee-0xfdee irq 26 at device 1.1 on pci3
 bge1: CHIP ID 0x2100; ASIC REV 0x02; CHIP REV 0x21; PCI-X 133 MHz
 miibus1: MII bus on bge1
 brgphy1: BCM5704 1000BASE-T media interface PHY 1 on miibus1
 brgphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT,
 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto, auto-flow
 bge1: Ethernet address: 00:0f:20:f6:e6:22
 

Sean, I have checked in all changes except one in the WIP version
to HEAD.  If you happen to see any abnormal bge(4) behavior on
CURRENT let me know.

Thanks.
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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-11 Thread Stefan Esser
Am 11.10.2012 08:02, schrieb Matthew Seaman:
 On 10/10/2012 23:20, Vincent Hoffman wrote:
 That's if you were to patch an already installed copy of
 portmaster.
 The patch is designed to be placed in
 
 ${PORTSDIR}/ports-mgmt/portmaster/files/
 
 so it would be applied as part of the normal process of
 building the portmaster port. In which case portmaster.sh.in
 is definitely the correct target.
 
 Actually not so, maybe something has changed recently?

Definitely ;-)

 I stand corrected.  Looks like Bryan switched things around a bit
 when he imported everything to GitHub.
 
 I'll fix the patch pro-tem although it should become redundant Real
 Soon Now.

My first assumption was, that the patch had already been integrated
into portmaster, when it failed to apply to the updated port. But the
resulting portmaster script did not support PKGNG, which made me look
for an updated patch and finally try to apply the previous patch to
the renamed file fetched by the port.

I just wanted to point out, that while the patch from October 2nd
does no longer find the file to patch (since it has been renamed),
that it still is required (with the changed filename). It took me
some time to resolve this issue and I just wanted to spare others
from wasting their time ...

Regards, STefan
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Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver

2012-10-11 Thread Ulrich Spörlein
Hey guys,

I need to replace an aging Pentium IV system that has been serving as my
router, access point, file- and mediaserver for quite some time now. The
replacement should have:

- amd64 CPU (for ZFS, obviously)
- 2x GigE (igress, egress interfaces)
- some form of wlan interface (I currently use an Atheros based PCI card)
- eSATA for attaching a backup disk where I stream ZFS snapshots to
- serial port is always nice, for when I mess up an upgrade
- fan-less if possible

So far, this here seems to fit the bill perfectly
http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/intensepc/
but pricing seems to defy any reality.

It does not state directly which chipsets are used for Wifi and
Ethernet, the block diagram claims Ethernet chips to be Intel 82579 and
RTL8111D, but I don't trust that fully.

For Wifi I can always fall back to sticking in a supported USB stick,
although that's kinda hacky.

So how well is networking going to be supported by FreeBSD? Should I
just bite the bullet and find out?

Cheers,
Uli
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Re: Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver

2012-10-11 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:54:53 +0200
schrieb Ulrich Spörlein u...@freebsd.org:

 Hey guys,
 
 I need to replace an aging Pentium IV system that has been serving as
 my router, access point, file- and mediaserver for quite some time
 now. The replacement should have:
 
 - amd64 CPU (for ZFS, obviously)
 - 2x GigE (igress, egress interfaces)
 - some form of wlan interface (I currently use an Atheros based PCI
 card)
 - eSATA for attaching a backup disk where I stream ZFS snapshots to
 - serial port is always nice, for when I mess up an upgrade
 - fan-less if possible
 
 So far, this here seems to fit the bill perfectly
 http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/intensepc/
 but pricing seems to defy any reality.
 
 It does not state directly which chipsets are used for Wifi and
 Ethernet, the block diagram claims Ethernet chips to be Intel 82579
 and RTL8111D, but I don't trust that fully.
 
 For Wifi I can always fall back to sticking in a supported USB stick,
 although that's kinda hacky.
 
 So how well is networking going to be supported by FreeBSD? Should I
 just bite the bullet and find out?



What about the 

HP ProLiant N40L
?

It's not fanless, of course - but it's IMO more suited for a
server-type system than anything else in that price-range.

I don't have one (I have no need for anything beyond what an
AlIX-system can do) - but if I would need a home-server, I'd buy a N40L
(it can boot from USB and you can thus boot FreeNAS from it)



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Re: Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver

2012-10-11 Thread Mark Blackman

On 11 Oct 2012, at 16:05, Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote:

 Am Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:54:53 +0200
 schrieb Ulrich Spörlein u...@freebsd.org:
 
 So how well is networking going to be supported by FreeBSD? Should I
 just bite the bullet and find out?
 
 
 
 What about the 
 
 HP ProLiant N40L
 ?
 
 It's not fanless, of course - but it's IMO more suited for a
 server-type system than anything else in that price-range.
 
 I don't have one (I have no need for anything beyond what an
 AlIX-system can do) - but if I would need a home-server, I'd buy a N40L
 (it can boot from USB and you can thus boot FreeNAS from it)

I've done both actually. I've got an N36L running FreeNAS, booting
from USB and an alix system running pfsense.

- Mark
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Re: Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver

2012-10-11 Thread Tom Evans
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Ulrich Spörlein u...@freebsd.org wrote:
 Hey guys,

 I need to replace an aging Pentium IV system that has been serving as my
 router, access point, file- and mediaserver for quite some time now. The
 replacement should have:

 - amd64 CPU (for ZFS, obviously)
 - 2x GigE (igress, egress interfaces)
 - some form of wlan interface (I currently use an Atheros based PCI card)
 …
 For Wifi I can always fall back to sticking in a supported USB stick,
 although that's kinda hacky.

Are you planning to have the wifi act as an access point? Very few USB
wlan devices support hostap mode; and those that do, don't support it
very well. I've used a ural(4) stick in hostap before; any client that
supports client power save, and that you can't disable power save on,
will fall lose link as soon as it tries to enable power save.

I don't know of any other wifi sticks that support hostap.

Cheers

Tom
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Re: Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver

2012-10-11 Thread Gary Palmer
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 04:54:53PM +0200, Ulrich Sp??rlein wrote:
 Hey guys,
 
 I need to replace an aging Pentium IV system that has been serving as my
 router, access point, file- and mediaserver for quite some time now. The
 replacement should have:
 
 - amd64 CPU (for ZFS, obviously)
 - 2x GigE (igress, egress interfaces)
 - some form of wlan interface (I currently use an Atheros based PCI card)
 - eSATA for attaching a backup disk where I stream ZFS snapshots to
 - serial port is always nice, for when I mess up an upgrade
 - fan-less if possible
 
 So far, this here seems to fit the bill perfectly
 http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/intensepc/
 but pricing seems to defy any reality.
 
 It does not state directly which chipsets are used for Wifi and
 Ethernet, the block diagram claims Ethernet chips to be Intel 82579 and
 RTL8111D, but I don't trust that fully.
 
 For Wifi I can always fall back to sticking in a supported USB stick,
 although that's kinda hacky.
 
 So how well is networking going to be supported by FreeBSD? Should I
 just bite the bullet and find out?

I'd recommend the Soekris net6501, but it's even more expensive than the
intensepc (I suspect due to low hardware volumes but thats just a guess)

http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html

You also don't specify what kind of storage you need, which is obviously
an important factor for a file/media server.

Gary
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RE: Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver

2012-10-11 Thread Sean Cavanaugh
 -Original Message-
 From: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 curr...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ulrich Spörlein
 Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:55 AM
 To: curr...@freebsd.org
 Subject: Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver
 
 Hey guys,
 
 I need to replace an aging Pentium IV system that has been serving as my
 router, access point, file- and mediaserver for quite some time now. The
 replacement should have:
 
 - amd64 CPU (for ZFS, obviously)
 - 2x GigE (igress, egress interfaces)
 - some form of wlan interface (I currently use an Atheros based PCI card)
 - eSATA for attaching a backup disk where I stream ZFS snapshots to
 - serial port is always nice, for when I mess up an upgrade
 - fan-less if possible
 
 So far, this here seems to fit the bill perfectly http://www.fit-
 pc.com/web/fit-pc/intensepc/
 but pricing seems to defy any reality.
 
 It does not state directly which chipsets are used for Wifi and Ethernet,
the
 block diagram claims Ethernet chips to be Intel 82579 and RTL8111D, but I
 don't trust that fully.
 
 For Wifi I can always fall back to sticking in a supported USB stick,
although
 that's kinda hacky.
 
 So how well is networking going to be supported by FreeBSD? Should I just
 bite the bullet and find out?
 
 Cheers,
 Uli
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Check out the pfSense recommended vendors for decent lists to start your
search. Forums has links to other lesser known platforms to meet your
requirements

http://www.pfsense.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=44Itemid=5
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Re: Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver

2012-10-11 Thread Guido Falsi
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:05:45PM -0400, Sean Cavanaugh wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
  curr...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ulrich Spörlein
  Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:55 AM
  To: curr...@freebsd.org
  Subject: Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver
  
  Hey guys,
  
  I need to replace an aging Pentium IV system that has been serving as my
  router, access point, file- and mediaserver for quite some time now. The
  replacement should have:
  
  - amd64 CPU (for ZFS, obviously)
  - 2x GigE (igress, egress interfaces)
  - some form of wlan interface (I currently use an Atheros based PCI card)
  - eSATA for attaching a backup disk where I stream ZFS snapshots to
  - serial port is always nice, for when I mess up an upgrade
  - fan-less if possible
  
  So far, this here seems to fit the bill perfectly http://www.fit-
  pc.com/web/fit-pc/intensepc/
  but pricing seems to defy any reality.
  
  It does not state directly which chipsets are used for Wifi and Ethernet,
 the
  block diagram claims Ethernet chips to be Intel 82579 and RTL8111D, but I
  don't trust that fully.
  
  For Wifi I can always fall back to sticking in a supported USB stick,
 although
  that's kinda hacky.
  
  So how well is networking going to be supported by FreeBSD? Should I just
  bite the bullet and find out?
  
  Cheers,
  Uli
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 Check out the pfSense recommended vendors for decent lists to start your
 search. Forums has links to other lesser known platforms to meet your
 requirements

Regarding pfsense I'm quite happy with Firewall Alix 2D2 from
http://www.osnet.eu/en/content/firewall-alix-2d2.

I'm using at home and have been having no problems.

They are one of the pfsense reccommended vendors.

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Re: Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver

2012-10-11 Thread Adam McDougall

On 10/11/12 12:05, Gary Palmer wrote:

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 04:54:53PM +0200, Ulrich Sp??rlein wrote:

Hey guys,

I need to replace an aging Pentium IV system that has been serving as my
router, access point, file- and mediaserver for quite some time now. The
replacement should have:

- amd64 CPU (for ZFS, obviously)
- 2x GigE (igress, egress interfaces)
- some form of wlan interface (I currently use an Atheros based PCI card)
- eSATA for attaching a backup disk where I stream ZFS snapshots to
- serial port is always nice, for when I mess up an upgrade
- fan-less if possible

So far, this here seems to fit the bill perfectly
http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/intensepc/
but pricing seems to defy any reality.

It does not state directly which chipsets are used for Wifi and
Ethernet, the block diagram claims Ethernet chips to be Intel 82579 and
RTL8111D, but I don't trust that fully.

For Wifi I can always fall back to sticking in a supported USB stick,
although that's kinda hacky.

So how well is networking going to be supported by FreeBSD? Should I
just bite the bullet and find out?


I'd recommend the Soekris net6501, but it's even more expensive than the
intensepc (I suspect due to low hardware volumes but thats just a guess)

http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html

You also don't specify what kind of storage you need, which is obviously
an important factor for a file/media server.

Gary
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Be wary of the Soekris net6501, I bought three of the 1.6Ghz net6501-70 
model which has an Atom E-680 cpu (E series) and it compiles more than 
twice as slow as a 1.6Ghz Atom N270 in an older netbook.  Someone else 
running Linux reported similar CPU slowness.  As far as practical 
network throughput, I could only get 100Mbit/sec with a simple HTTP 
download of a file full of zeros, and OpenVPN could only push about 
25Mbit/sec.  As a practical example of the CPU slowness, it takes about 
1.5 minutes to compile pkg on the N270 netbook and 5 minutes on the 6501 
(around 4.5 if I use -j2).  A kernel compile took an hour. 
Unfortunately I had no idea this CPU (possibly implementation?) was so 
slow before I purchased it, and I could scarcely find evidence of it on 
google after hours of searching when I had already discovered the issue. 
 I was hoping to find some comparative benchmarks between various Atom 
series but manufacturers generally don't do that.


Additionally, the total AHCI SATA write speed on the net6501 (in BSD 
only?) has a strange 20MB/sec limitation but reads can go over 
100MB/sec.  If I write to one disk I get 20MB/sec, if I write to both 
SATA disks I get 10MB/sec each.  Write is equally slow on a SSD.  Both 
someone running OpenBSD and I running FreeBSD reported the same symptoms 
to the soekris-tech mailing list and received no useful replies towards 
getting that problem solved.  I tested the write speed briefly with 
Linux and it did not appear to have the 20MB/sec limitation.  I did 
confirm it was using MSI(-X?) with boot -v.  I think this hardware would 
need to fall into Alexander Motin's hands to get anywhere with debugging 
the SATA speed issue.  Since it seems fine in Linux, maybe some day it 
can be fixed in BSD but I have no clue how that limitation could happen. 
 The disks I tested with are fine in normal computers.

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WITHOUT_GNU_[COMPAT|SUPPORT]

2012-10-11 Thread Ian Lepore
I want to build grep without the gnu regex library.  The makefile for
usr.bin/grep  contains

  .if !defined(WITHOUT_GNU_COMPAT)

And man src.conf documents WITHOUT_GNU_SUPPORT but doesn't mention
WITHOUT_GNU_COMPAT.  Is this a typo in the makefile, or an ommision from
the src.conf manpage?

-- Ian


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Re: WITHOUT_GNU_[COMPAT|SUPPORT]

2012-10-11 Thread Gabor Kovesdan
Em 11-10-2012 19:09, Ian Lepore escreveu:
 I want to build grep without the gnu regex library.  The makefile for
 usr.bin/grep  contains
 
   .if !defined(WITHOUT_GNU_COMPAT)
 
 And man src.conf documents WITHOUT_GNU_SUPPORT but doesn't mention
 WITHOUT_GNU_COMPAT.  Is this a typo in the makefile, or an ommision from
 the src.conf manpage?

That time when I added the WITHOUT_GNU_COMPAT knob I didn't make it
global, just used it for testing grep. I didn't think it was of any use
for users and I wasn't aware of the existence of WITHOUT_GNU_SUPPORT. If
it seems useful, I can change grep to use this global flag instead of
the custom knob and it will just be built without the gnu regex library
if the knob is set.

Gabor
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Re: Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver

2012-10-11 Thread Adrian Chadd
Did you ever file a PR for the slow SATA behaviour?



Adrian


On 11 October 2012 09:52, Adam McDougall mcdou...@egr.msu.edu wrote:
 On 10/11/12 12:05, Gary Palmer wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 04:54:53PM +0200, Ulrich Sp??rlein wrote:

 Hey guys,

 I need to replace an aging Pentium IV system that has been serving as my
 router, access point, file- and mediaserver for quite some time now. The
 replacement should have:

 - amd64 CPU (for ZFS, obviously)
 - 2x GigE (igress, egress interfaces)
 - some form of wlan interface (I currently use an Atheros based PCI card)
 - eSATA for attaching a backup disk where I stream ZFS snapshots to
 - serial port is always nice, for when I mess up an upgrade
 - fan-less if possible

 So far, this here seems to fit the bill perfectly
 http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/intensepc/
 but pricing seems to defy any reality.

 It does not state directly which chipsets are used for Wifi and
 Ethernet, the block diagram claims Ethernet chips to be Intel 82579 and
 RTL8111D, but I don't trust that fully.

 For Wifi I can always fall back to sticking in a supported USB stick,
 although that's kinda hacky.

 So how well is networking going to be supported by FreeBSD? Should I
 just bite the bullet and find out?


 I'd recommend the Soekris net6501, but it's even more expensive than the
 intensepc (I suspect due to low hardware volumes but thats just a guess)

 http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html

 You also don't specify what kind of storage you need, which is obviously
 an important factor for a file/media server.

 Gary
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 Be wary of the Soekris net6501, I bought three of the 1.6Ghz net6501-70
 model which has an Atom E-680 cpu (E series) and it compiles more than twice
 as slow as a 1.6Ghz Atom N270 in an older netbook.  Someone else running
 Linux reported similar CPU slowness.  As far as practical network
 throughput, I could only get 100Mbit/sec with a simple HTTP download of a
 file full of zeros, and OpenVPN could only push about 25Mbit/sec.  As a
 practical example of the CPU slowness, it takes about 1.5 minutes to compile
 pkg on the N270 netbook and 5 minutes on the 6501 (around 4.5 if I use -j2).
 A kernel compile took an hour. Unfortunately I had no idea this CPU
 (possibly implementation?) was so slow before I purchased it, and I could
 scarcely find evidence of it on google after hours of searching when I had
 already discovered the issue.  I was hoping to find some comparative
 benchmarks between various Atom series but manufacturers generally don't do
 that.

 Additionally, the total AHCI SATA write speed on the net6501 (in BSD only?)
 has a strange 20MB/sec limitation but reads can go over 100MB/sec.  If I
 write to one disk I get 20MB/sec, if I write to both SATA disks I get
 10MB/sec each.  Write is equally slow on a SSD.  Both someone running
 OpenBSD and I running FreeBSD reported the same symptoms to the soekris-tech
 mailing list and received no useful replies towards getting that problem
 solved.  I tested the write speed briefly with Linux and it did not appear
 to have the 20MB/sec limitation.  I did confirm it was using MSI(-X?) with
 boot -v.  I think this hardware would need to fall into Alexander Motin's
 hands to get anywhere with debugging the SATA speed issue.  Since it seems
 fine in Linux, maybe some day it can be fixed in BSD but I have no clue how
 that limitation could happen.  The disks I tested with are fine in normal
 computers.

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Re: Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver

2012-10-11 Thread Rainer Duffner

Am 11.10.2012 um 18:52 schrieb Adam McDougall mcdou...@egr.msu.edu:
 
 Be wary of the Soekris net6501, 

[…]

The Soekris, AFAIK, is an embedded platform.
It doesn't surprise me the least that it's not good at I/O.
That's the reason why I suggested the HP.
At least, it does decent I/O, if you want to believe reports.

I would really also recommend to separate the router and 
fileserver-functionality.
AFAIK, the N40L supports Wake-on-LAN (and pfSense does, too), so you should be 
able to wake it up even without getting up from the couch ;-)

I never really got warm with the Soekris-stuff - but then, I'm in Switzerland 
and PC-Engines was always very quick with shipping ;-)


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Re: WITHOUT_GNU_[COMPAT|SUPPORT]

2012-10-11 Thread Ian Lepore
On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 19:45 +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote:
 Em 11-10-2012 19:09, Ian Lepore escreveu:
  I want to build grep without the gnu regex library.  The makefile for
  usr.bin/grep  contains
  
.if !defined(WITHOUT_GNU_COMPAT)
  
  And man src.conf documents WITHOUT_GNU_SUPPORT but doesn't mention
  WITHOUT_GNU_COMPAT.  Is this a typo in the makefile, or an ommision from
  the src.conf manpage?
 
 That time when I added the WITHOUT_GNU_COMPAT knob I didn't make it
 global, just used it for testing grep. I didn't think it was of any use
 for users and I wasn't aware of the existence of WITHOUT_GNU_SUPPORT. If
 it seems useful, I can change grep to use this global flag instead of
 the custom knob and it will just be built without the gnu regex library
 if the knob is set.
 
 Gabor

That would be helpful to us if you did that, thank you.  We try to avoid
including anything [L]GPL-licensed in the embedded-systems products we
ship at work.

-- Ian


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Re: Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver

2012-10-11 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos

On Thu, October 11, 2012 14:53, Rainer Duffner wrote:

 Am 11.10.2012 um 18:52 schrieb Adam McDougall mcdou...@egr.msu.edu:

 Be wary of the Soekris net6501,

 […]

 The Soekris, AFAIK, is an embedded platform.
 It doesn't surprise me the least that it's not good at I/O.

I second that. Tried to use a 6501-70 as file server, and got myself a great 
deal of work to know
in the end the box was not supposed to be used like that.

An Intel atom mini itx board, powered by similar Atom CPU got faster results, 
but a huge margin.
For me, the issue is with saturation bus related.

I would not recommend using it, unless its a really small file server.

matheus

-- 
We will call you Cygnus,
The God of balance you shall be

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
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Re: [HEADSUP] FYI: patch to ports that do not build with clang has been committed

2012-10-11 Thread matt




I have made changes to ports/Mk/bsd.gcc.mk that allow the addition of
USE_GCC=any to a port's Makefile, and then committed that change to
various ports.  In most (but not all!) cases this will tell the port
build with gcc instead of clang (*) .



Why not USE_GCC ?= any for the poor guys like me who build (some) 
ports with

USE_GCC=4.6 ?


For those users with CC installed as gcc (including -stable), this
patch should have no effect.  Variations of combinations have been
heavily tested on pointyhat-west.  If there are any regressions, please
contact me.






Does  this override setting CC explicitly in make.conf?
Sorry if it's a dumb question, not sure exactly the hierarchy of USE_GCC 
vs CC in the make system.


Matt
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