Re: Light humour
Am 28.04.2013 00:31, schrieb Paul Webster: Just got this link on IRC, (freenode/##freebsd) was so funny I thought I would see if I could get any of you guys to spit out you're coffee :) http://antibsd.wordpress.com/ So much hatred and misinformation. Too bad that there might be people who believe this utter nonsense ... STefan ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Light humour
On Sun, 2013-04-28 at 10:44 +0200, Stefan Esser wrote: Am 28.04.2013 00:31, schrieb Paul Webster: Just got this link on IRC, (freenode/##freebsd) was so funny I thought I would see if I could get any of you guys to spit out you're coffee :) http://antibsd.wordpress.com/ So much hatred and misinformation. Too bad that there might be people who believe this utter nonsense ... STefan This guy does give comments on Phoronix on a regular basis and sometimes it is funny to read the stuff that this misguided guy has to push out into the virgin world. Oliver signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Light humour
Hi guys, Wow! This definitely made my day! I haven't laughed so much before! :D Apparently that chap really understands what it is all about... LoL Thank you! :) BR, -- Love Light Ventsislav Nikolov On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:14 AM, O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.dewrote: On Sun, 2013-04-28 at 10:44 +0200, Stefan Esser wrote: Am 28.04.2013 00:31, schrieb Paul Webster: Just got this link on IRC, (freenode/##freebsd) was so funny I thought I would see if I could get any of you guys to spit out you're coffee :) http://antibsd.wordpress.com/ So much hatred and misinformation. Too bad that there might be people who believe this utter nonsense ... STefan This guy does give comments on Phoronix on a regular basis and sometimes it is funny to read the stuff that this misguided guy has to push out into the virgin world. Oliver ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Infiniband OFED CLANG failing
svn info Path: . Working Copy Root Path: /usr/src URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/base/head Repository Root: http://svn.freebsd.org/base Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f Revision: 250012 Node Kind: directory Schedule: normal Last Changed Author: eadler Last Changed Rev: 250012 Last Changed Date: 2013-04-28 02:23:39 + (Sun, 28 Apr 2013) cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../include/infiniband -I/usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../management/opensm/include/ -pthread -DVENDOR_RMPP_SUPPORT -DDUAL_SIDED_RMPP -I/usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../include/infiniband -I/usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../management/opensm/include/ -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-unused-function -Wno-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -Wno-parentheses -c /usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../management/opensm/opensm/osm_console.c /usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../management/opensm/opensm/osm_console.c:70:1: error: use of GNU old-style field designator extension [-Werror,-Wgnu-designator] on: 0, delay_s: 2, loop_function:NULL}; ^~~ .on = /usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../management/opensm/opensm/osm_console.c:70:8: error: use of GNU old-style field designator extension [-Werror,-Wgnu-designator] on: 0, delay_s: 2, loop_function:NULL}; ^~~~ .delay_s = /usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../management/opensm/opensm/osm_console.c:70:20: error: use of GNU old-style field designator extension [-Werror,-Wgnu-designator] on: 0, delay_s: 2, loop_function:NULL}; ^~ .loop_function = 3 errors generated. *** [osm_console.o] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Light humour
This actually gives me hope that computers won't ruin humanity. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: forwarding/ipfw/pf evolution (in pps) on -current
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Andre Oppermann an...@freebsd.org wrote: Again one has to be really careful drawing any firm conclusions from this as it was measured on a Pentium4 and UP kernel (GENERIC would add WITNESS and INVARIANT overhead as well). The Pentium4 is about the worst micro-architecture when it comes to locks and easily regresses. At the same time modern Intel Core i[3-7] and AMD64 may actually improve with these changes. Unless more recent micro-archs have been shown to exhibit the same regression we can't claim this change was bad (other than for Pentium4). OK, here are the results of the same bench on another server (HP ProLiant DL320 G5): - Dual Core: Intel Xeon CPU 3050 2.13GHz (2133.45-MHz K8-class CPU) - NIC changed to dual 82571EB Graph: http://gugus69.free.fr/freebsd/benchs/current2/current-pps.png gnuplot data: http://gugus69.free.fr/freebsd/benchs/current2/plot/ ministat data: http://gugus69.free.fr/freebsd/benchs/current2/ministat/ raw data: http://gugus69.free.fr/freebsd/benchs/current2/raw/ Notice the Glebius' explanation regarding a unique one-flow test and the new pf-smp behavior: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2013-April/035417.html Regards, Olivier ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Light humour
On 04/28/13 10:44, Stefan Esser wrote: Am 28.04.2013 00:31, schrieb Paul Webster: Just got this link on IRC, (freenode/##freebsd) was so funny I thought I would see if I could get any of you guys to spit out you're coffee :) http://antibsd.wordpress.com/ So much hatred and misinformation. Too bad that there might be people who believe this utter nonsense ... Personally, I found it amusing. Especially the logic behind 'Freedom' section. -LW ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Light humour
Yeah, the trouble is that people can/will believe this nonsense. So, question. Where's the pro-BSD blog(s) to offset it? :) adrian ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Light humour
Not criticizing, just commenting. I heard such utter nonsense sometimes, in which people do believe despite all common sense, that I'm not amused, but scared :) This blog is humor to very small, limited group of people, and at same time it's anti-bsd blog to bigger audience, who will not bother read some lines, instead peek in title, get few words here, few there, and close it. In they memory will be essence - that *BSD is suck, probably not allover, but they will remember that there are exist areas in which BSD have big problems. Mix this with lacking `nextgen techs` like KMS, decent virtualization level, no utf-8 in console and other myths, partial myths, or obsolete problems of old releases, and you'll receive bad opinion on BSD. But, there's not much to be done actually :) -- Regards, Alexander Yerenkow ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Light humour
On 04/28/2013 12:54 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: Yeah, the trouble is that people can/will believe this nonsense. So, question. Where's the pro-BSD blog(s) to offset it? :) A pro-BSD blog is a great idea. But let's not get into the Linux bashing the same way he bashed BSD. I personally like both OS very much, and I think they have a symbiotic relationship. Also, the ultimate freedom in licenses is the freedom to choose which version of freedom you like. I personally prefer the BSD license. But I respect those who prefer the GNU license. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Installing new world failed (install -l)
Since -l switch introduced into install(8), I can't build new FreeBSD box at all. I do following command set to build new box: (http://eroese.org/mkw.sh) 1) cd /usr/head/src svn up 2) make buildworld 3) make DESTDIR=/path/to/directory hierarchy distrib-dirs distribution installworld This worked for long time but after some point it had been broken. I found only 20130425 in UPDATING about this, but installing mergemaster gives nothing, obviously. I can't compile new install(8) since I have old system like FreeBSD-9-RELEASE (FreeBSD-CURRENT, r226748) and it doesn't have needed functions. The tail of install log is below. .. (lines removed) mtree -deU -f /usr/head/src/etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist -p /usr/home/root/logs/2013-04-28/16.18.03/distro.i386/ ./var/spool/clientmqueue missing (created) install -l s usr/src/sys /usr/home/root/logs/2013-04-28/16.18.03/distro.i386/sys install: illegal option -- l usage: install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 file2 install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 ... fileN directory install -d [-v] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ... *** [distrib-dirs] Error code 64 Stop in /usr/head/src/etc. *** [hierarchy] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/head/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/head/src. -- Eir Nym ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Light humour
I found it a few weeks ago. I left a comment in the jails article about citing sources. Comments need moderator approval, and of course it was never approved. The blog actually turned up in google's list in the front page when I searched for FreeBSD Linux jail. I read an article on slashdot that BSD style licenses are becoming more popular, probably realizing the long term ramifications of GPL style licenses. I think the most dangerous thing in many GPLed projects is any later version. It gives the FSF licensing control instead of developers. There needs to be a pro-BSD blog. Regarding the licensing differences, it's simple. BSD: If you love something, set it free. If it comes back to you, it was meant to be. GPL: If you love something, set if free, but put a chain around it's neck to make sure it doesn't get out of sight. On 4/28/2013 12:54 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: Yeah, the trouble is that people can/will believe this nonsense. So, question. Where's the pro-BSD blog(s) to offset it? :) adrian ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Light humour
On 04/28/2013 04:35 PM, Joshua Isom wrote: There needs to be a pro-BSD blog. Regarding the licensing differences, it's simple. BSD: If you love something, set it free. If it comes back to you, it was meant to be. GPL: If you love something, set if free, but put a chain around it's neck to make sure it doesn't get out of sight. That is rather brilliant! ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installing new world failed (install -l)
What should I do in this situation? -- Eir Nym On 28 April 2013 23:36, Eir Nym eir...@gmail.com wrote: Since -l switch introduced into install(8), I can't build new FreeBSD box at all. I do following command set to build new box: (http://eroese.org/mkw.sh) 1) cd /usr/head/src svn up 2) make buildworld 3) make DESTDIR=/path/to/directory hierarchy distrib-dirs distribution installworld This worked for long time but after some point it had been broken. I found only 20130425 in UPDATING about this, but installing mergemaster gives nothing, obviously. I can't compile new install(8) since I have old system like FreeBSD-9-RELEASE (FreeBSD-CURRENT, r226748) and it doesn't have needed functions. The tail of install log is below. .. (lines removed) mtree -deU -f /usr/head/src/etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist -p /usr/home/root/logs/2013-04-28/16.18.03/distro.i386/ ./var/spool/clientmqueue missing (created) install -l s usr/src/sys /usr/home/root/logs/2013-04-28/16.18.03/distro.i386/sys install: illegal option -- l usage: install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 file2 install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 ... fileN directory install -d [-v] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ... *** [distrib-dirs] Error code 64 Stop in /usr/head/src/etc. *** [hierarchy] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/head/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/head/src. -- Eir Nym ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Light humour
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013, Adrian Chadd wrote: Yeah, the trouble is that people can/will believe this nonsense. So, question. Where's the pro-BSD blog(s) to offset it? :) adrian ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Paging Brett Glass! ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Light humour
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 06:49:51PM -0400, Frank Seltzer wrote: On Sun, 28 Apr 2013, Adrian Chadd wrote: Yeah, the trouble is that people can/will believe this nonsense. So, question. Where's the pro-BSD blog(s) to offset it? :) http://www.softpanorama.org/Copyright/License_classification/social_roots_of_GPL.shtml adrian - Diane -- - d...@freebsd.org d...@db.net http://www.db.net/~db ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org