Re: Light humour

2013-04-28 Thread Stefan Esser
Am 28.04.2013 00:31, schrieb Paul Webster:
 Just got this link on IRC, (freenode/##freebsd) was so funny I thought
 I would see if I could get any of you guys to spit out you're coffee
 :)
 
 http://antibsd.wordpress.com/

So much hatred and misinformation.

Too bad that there might be people
who believe this utter nonsense ...

STefan
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Re: Light humour

2013-04-28 Thread O. Hartmann
On Sun, 2013-04-28 at 10:44 +0200, Stefan Esser wrote:
 Am 28.04.2013 00:31, schrieb Paul Webster:
  Just got this link on IRC, (freenode/##freebsd) was so funny I thought
  I would see if I could get any of you guys to spit out you're coffee
  :)
  
  http://antibsd.wordpress.com/
 
 So much hatred and misinformation.
 
 Too bad that there might be people
 who believe this utter nonsense ...
 
 STefan

This guy does give comments on Phoronix on a regular basis and sometimes
it is funny to read the stuff that this misguided guy has to push out
into the virgin world.

Oliver




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Re: Light humour

2013-04-28 Thread Ventsislav Nikolov
Hi guys,

Wow! This definitely made my day! I haven't laughed so much before! :D
Apparently that chap really understands what it is all about... LoL

Thank you! :)

BR,

--
Love  Light
Ventsislav Nikolov


On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:14 AM, O. Hartmann
ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.dewrote:

 On Sun, 2013-04-28 at 10:44 +0200, Stefan Esser wrote:
  Am 28.04.2013 00:31, schrieb Paul Webster:
   Just got this link on IRC, (freenode/##freebsd) was so funny I thought
   I would see if I could get any of you guys to spit out you're coffee
   :)
  
   http://antibsd.wordpress.com/
 
  So much hatred and misinformation.
 
  Too bad that there might be people
  who believe this utter nonsense ...
 
  STefan

 This guy does give comments on Phoronix on a regular basis and sometimes
 it is funny to read the stuff that this misguided guy has to push out
 into the virgin world.

 Oliver



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Infiniband OFED CLANG failing

2013-04-28 Thread Outback Dingo
svn info
Path: .
Working Copy Root Path: /usr/src
URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/base/head
Repository Root: http://svn.freebsd.org/base
Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f
Revision: 250012
Node Kind: directory
Schedule: normal
Last Changed Author: eadler
Last Changed Rev: 250012
Last Changed Date: 2013-04-28 02:23:39 + (Sun, 28 Apr 2013)


cc -O2 -pipe
 -I/usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../include/infiniband
-I/usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../management/opensm/include/
-pthread -DVENDOR_RMPP_SUPPORT -DDUAL_SIDED_RMPP
-I/usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../include/infiniband
-I/usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../management/opensm/include/
-std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror
-Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int
-Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality
-Wno-unused-function -Wno-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum
-Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -Wno-parentheses -c
/usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../management/opensm/opensm/osm_console.c
/usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../management/opensm/opensm/osm_console.c:70:1:
error: use of GNU old-style field designator extension
[-Werror,-Wgnu-designator]
on: 0, delay_s: 2, loop_function:NULL};
^~~
.on =
/usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../management/opensm/opensm/osm_console.c:70:8:
error: use of GNU old-style field designator extension
[-Werror,-Wgnu-designator]
on: 0, delay_s: 2, loop_function:NULL};
   ^~~~
   .delay_s =
/usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm/../../management/opensm/opensm/osm_console.c:70:20:
error: use of GNU old-style field designator extension
[-Werror,-Wgnu-designator]
on: 0, delay_s: 2, loop_function:NULL};
   ^~
   .loop_function =
3 errors generated.
*** [osm_console.o] Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/contrib/ofed/usr.bin/opensm.
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Re: Light humour

2013-04-28 Thread Matthew Jacob

This actually gives me hope that computers won't ruin humanity.
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Re: forwarding/ipfw/pf evolution (in pps) on -current

2013-04-28 Thread Olivier Cochard-Labbé
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Andre Oppermann an...@freebsd.org wrote:


 Again one has to be really careful drawing any firm conclusions from this
 as it was measured on a Pentium4 and UP kernel (GENERIC would add WITNESS
 and INVARIANT overhead as well).

 The Pentium4 is about the worst micro-architecture when it comes to locks
 and easily regresses.  At the same time modern Intel Core i[3-7] and AMD64
 may actually improve with these changes.  Unless more recent micro-archs
 have been shown to exhibit the same regression we can't claim this change
 was bad (other than for Pentium4).

OK, here are the results of the same bench on another server (HP
ProLiant DL320 G5):
- Dual Core: Intel Xeon CPU 3050 2.13GHz (2133.45-MHz K8-class CPU)
- NIC changed to dual 82571EB

Graph:
http://gugus69.free.fr/freebsd/benchs/current2/current-pps.png

gnuplot data:
http://gugus69.free.fr/freebsd/benchs/current2/plot/

ministat data:
http://gugus69.free.fr/freebsd/benchs/current2/ministat/

raw data:
http://gugus69.free.fr/freebsd/benchs/current2/raw/

Notice the Glebius' explanation regarding a unique one-flow test and
the new pf-smp behavior:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2013-April/035417.html

Regards,

Olivier
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Re: Light humour

2013-04-28 Thread Lukasz Wojcik

On 04/28/13 10:44, Stefan Esser wrote:

Am 28.04.2013 00:31, schrieb Paul Webster:

Just got this link on IRC, (freenode/##freebsd) was so funny I thought
I would see if I could get any of you guys to spit out you're coffee
:)

http://antibsd.wordpress.com/


So much hatred and misinformation.

Too bad that there might be people
who believe this utter nonsense ...


Personally, I found it amusing. Especially the logic behind 'Freedom' 
section.


-LW

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Re: Light humour

2013-04-28 Thread Adrian Chadd
Yeah, the trouble is that people can/will believe this nonsense.

So, question. Where's the pro-BSD blog(s) to offset it? :)



adrian
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Re: Light humour

2013-04-28 Thread Alexander Yerenkow
Not criticizing, just commenting.
I heard such utter nonsense sometimes, in which people do believe despite
all common sense, that I'm not amused, but scared :)
This blog is humor to very small, limited group of people, and at same time
it's anti-bsd blog to bigger audience, who will not bother read some lines,
instead peek in title, get few words here, few there, and close it. In they
memory will be essence - that *BSD is suck, probably not allover, but they
will remember that there are exist areas in which BSD have big problems.
Mix this with lacking `nextgen techs` like KMS, decent virtualization
level, no utf-8 in console and other myths, partial myths, or obsolete
problems of old releases, and you'll receive bad opinion on BSD.
But, there's not much to be done actually :)

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Regards,
Alexander Yerenkow
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Re: Light humour

2013-04-28 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
On 04/28/2013 12:54 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
 Yeah, the trouble is that people can/will believe this nonsense.
 
 So, question. Where's the pro-BSD blog(s) to offset it? :)

A pro-BSD blog is a great idea.  But let's not get into the Linux
bashing the same way he bashed BSD.  I personally like both OS very
much, and I think they have a symbiotic relationship.

Also, the ultimate freedom in licenses is the freedom to choose which
version of freedom you like.  I personally prefer the BSD license.  But
I respect those who prefer the GNU license.
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Installing new world failed (install -l)

2013-04-28 Thread Eir Nym
Since -l switch introduced into install(8), I can't build new FreeBSD
box at all.

I do following command set to build new box: (http://eroese.org/mkw.sh)
1) cd /usr/head/src  svn up
2) make buildworld
3) make DESTDIR=/path/to/directory hierarchy distrib-dirs distribution
installworld

This worked for long time but after some point it had been broken. I
found only 20130425 in UPDATING about this, but installing mergemaster
gives nothing, obviously.
I can't compile new install(8) since I have old system like
FreeBSD-9-RELEASE (FreeBSD-CURRENT, r226748) and it doesn't have
needed functions.

The tail of install log is below.

.. (lines removed)
mtree -deU -f /usr/head/src/etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist -p
/usr/home/root/logs/2013-04-28/16.18.03/distro.i386/
./var/spool/clientmqueue missing (created)
install -l s usr/src/sys /usr/home/root/logs/2013-04-28/16.18.03/distro.i386/sys
install: illegal option -- l
usage: install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode]
   [-o owner] file1 file2
   install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode]
   [-o owner] file1 ... fileN directory
   install -d [-v] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ...
*** [distrib-dirs] Error code 64

Stop in /usr/head/src/etc.
*** [hierarchy] Error code 1

Stop in /usr/head/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/head/src.

-- Eir Nym
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Re: Light humour

2013-04-28 Thread Joshua Isom
I found it a few weeks ago.  I left a comment in the jails article about 
citing sources.  Comments need moderator approval, and of course it was 
never approved.  The blog actually turned up in google's list in the 
front page when I searched for FreeBSD Linux jail.


I read an article on slashdot that BSD style licenses are becoming more 
popular, probably realizing the long term ramifications of GPL style 
licenses.  I think the most dangerous thing in many GPLed projects is 
any later version.  It gives the FSF licensing control instead of 
developers.


There needs to be a pro-BSD blog.  Regarding the licensing differences, 
it's simple.


BSD: If you love something, set it free.  If it comes back to you, it 
was meant to be.


GPL: If you love something, set if free, but put a chain around it's 
neck to make sure it doesn't get out of sight.


On 4/28/2013 12:54 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:

Yeah, the trouble is that people can/will believe this nonsense.

So, question. Where's the pro-BSD blog(s) to offset it? :)



adrian
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Re: Light humour

2013-04-28 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
On 04/28/2013 04:35 PM, Joshua Isom wrote:

 There needs to be a pro-BSD blog.  Regarding the licensing differences,
 it's simple.
 
 BSD: If you love something, set it free.  If it comes back to you, it
 was meant to be.
 
 GPL: If you love something, set if free, but put a chain around it's
 neck to make sure it doesn't get out of sight.

That is rather brilliant!
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Re: Installing new world failed (install -l)

2013-04-28 Thread Eir Nym
What should I do in this situation?

-- Eir Nym


On 28 April 2013 23:36, Eir Nym eir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since -l switch introduced into install(8), I can't build new FreeBSD
 box at all.

 I do following command set to build new box: (http://eroese.org/mkw.sh)
 1) cd /usr/head/src  svn up
 2) make buildworld
 3) make DESTDIR=/path/to/directory hierarchy distrib-dirs distribution
 installworld

 This worked for long time but after some point it had been broken. I
 found only 20130425 in UPDATING about this, but installing mergemaster
 gives nothing, obviously.
 I can't compile new install(8) since I have old system like
 FreeBSD-9-RELEASE (FreeBSD-CURRENT, r226748) and it doesn't have
 needed functions.

 The tail of install log is below.

 .. (lines removed)
 mtree -deU -f /usr/head/src/etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist -p
 /usr/home/root/logs/2013-04-28/16.18.03/distro.i386/
 ./var/spool/clientmqueue missing (created)
 install -l s usr/src/sys 
 /usr/home/root/logs/2013-04-28/16.18.03/distro.i386/sys
 install: illegal option -- l
 usage: install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode]
[-o owner] file1 file2
install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode]
[-o owner] file1 ... fileN directory
install -d [-v] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ...
 *** [distrib-dirs] Error code 64

 Stop in /usr/head/src/etc.
 *** [hierarchy] Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/head/src.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/head/src.

 -- Eir Nym
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Re: Light humour

2013-04-28 Thread Frank Seltzer


On Sun, 28 Apr 2013, Adrian Chadd wrote:


Yeah, the trouble is that people can/will believe this nonsense.

So, question. Where's the pro-BSD blog(s) to offset it? :)



adrian
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Paging Brett Glass!
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Re: Light humour

2013-04-28 Thread Diane Bruce
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 06:49:51PM -0400, Frank Seltzer wrote:
 
 On Sun, 28 Apr 2013, Adrian Chadd wrote:
 
  Yeah, the trouble is that people can/will believe this nonsense.
 
  So, question. Where's the pro-BSD blog(s) to offset it? :)


http://www.softpanorama.org/Copyright/License_classification/social_roots_of_GPL.shtml

  adrian

- Diane
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- d...@freebsd.org d...@db.net http://www.db.net/~db
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