Re: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-16 Thread Chris Doherty
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 09:55:14AM -0800, Johnson David said: 
 Okay, here's a compromise solution for all those people still needing 386 
 support out of the box: make a 5.0-mini-386.iso image.
 
 p.s. I somehow suspect that embedded systems vendors aren't installing from 
 the CDROM.

why is this an issue?

1) supporting every computer made since 1964 is NetBSD's job, not
   FreeBSD's.

2) I'm scared that 5.0 is going to be unpleasantly slow on my p2-366, let
   alone a 386.

3) if you feel compelled to run old hardware, why not shell out $30 for a
   486 system? for $50 you can get a Pentium 166. :-)

I'm really keen to see FreeBSD move *forward*.

chris


---
Chris Doherty
chris [at] randomcamel.net

I think, said Christopher Robin, that we ought to eat
all our provisions now, so we won't have so much to carry.
   -- A. A. Milne
---

To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message



Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Chris Doherty

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 08:28:13PM +0100, Mark Murray said: 
  That said... rain is a neat display hack.  It's at least as good as
  the ASCII art VGA library.  I probably would not miss anything else,
  or anything that wasn't multiplayer, very much, if at all... it looks
  like an axeing may be in order.
 
 Rain looks ridiculous on a VTY. Last time it looked ok was on a 9600
 baud terminal.

from the man page:

 The output of rain is modeled after the VAX/VMS program of the same
 name.  To obtain the proper effect, either the terminal must be set
 for 9600 baud or the -d option must be used to specify a delay, in
 milliseconds, between each update.  A reasonable delay is 120; the
 default is 0.
 
it looks fine with the delay.

I like the games, although as long as they're easily available and things
like fortune and primes stick around (preferably in /usr/games,
because otherwise I'll just end up making my own /usr/games directory and
symlinking those files from /usr/bin or wherever, because they're in
/usr/games on every other system and I'm not really interested in having
FreeBSD be pointlessly different if I can help it).

chris

---
Chris Doherty
chris [at] randomcamel.net

I think, said Christopher Robin, that we ought to eat
all our provisions now, so we won't have so much to carry.
   -- A. A. Milne
---

To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message



Re: expat2 in the base system?

2002-10-04 Thread Chris Doherty

On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 08:10:57AM -0700, Bill Huey said: 
 On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 10:24:03AM -0400, Jeroen C. van Gelderen wrote:
  Almost. It's indeed called Ant but has been developed under the 
  umbrella of the Apache Jakarta project.
 
 I used it to build Tomcat tonight and it looks to be a very power
 package.

it is--it's great for Java development (modulo the verbosity involved with
XML-anything). I'm not sure how suited it is for other languages,
though--AFAICT you'd have to gin up targets from scratch, since the
built-in and add-on target are Java-specific.

chris


---
Chris Doherty
chris [at] randomcamel.net

I think, said Christopher Robin, that we ought to eat
all our provisions now, so we won't have so much to carry.
   -- A. A. Milne
---

To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message



ALTQ status?

2002-09-19 Thread Chris Doherty

does anyone know the status of the ALTQ merge? I checked the webpage
(http://www.rofug.ro/projects/freebsd-altq/), and it was last updated on
August 25th, but 5.0 (and especially its feature freeze) is creeping up
quickly, and there's no mention of ALTQ in the -current release notes
(http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes/CURRENT/relnotes-i386.html).

I don't have a machine to run -current on, so I don't have the source
code; and I couldn't find anything about ALTQ in the mailing list
archives. anyone have a line on this?

thanks,
chris


---
Chris Doherty
chris [at] randomcamel.net

I think, said Christopher Robin, that we ought to eat
all our provisions now, so we won't have so much to carry.
   -- A. A. Milne
---

To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message