RE: Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- curr...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ulrich Spörlein Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:55 AM To: curr...@freebsd.org Subject: Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver Hey guys, I need to replace an aging Pentium IV system that has been serving as my router, access point, file- and mediaserver for quite some time now. The replacement should have: - amd64 CPU (for ZFS, obviously) - 2x GigE (igress, egress interfaces) - some form of wlan interface (I currently use an Atheros based PCI card) - eSATA for attaching a backup disk where I stream ZFS snapshots to - serial port is always nice, for when I mess up an upgrade - fan-less if possible So far, this here seems to fit the bill perfectly http://www.fit- pc.com/web/fit-pc/intensepc/ but pricing seems to defy any reality. It does not state directly which chipsets are used for Wifi and Ethernet, the block diagram claims Ethernet chips to be Intel 82579 and RTL8111D, but I don't trust that fully. For Wifi I can always fall back to sticking in a supported USB stick, although that's kinda hacky. So how well is networking going to be supported by FreeBSD? Should I just bite the bullet and find out? Cheers, Uli ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current- unsubscr...@freebsd.org Check out the pfSense recommended vendors for decent lists to start your search. Forums has links to other lesser known platforms to meet your requirements http://www.pfsense.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=44Itemid=5 0 ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- curr...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Kalchev Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 2:46 AM To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD? On 06.06.12 05:31, Erich wrote: On 05 June 2012 10:55:57 Chris Rees wrote: It is absolutely a bad idea for beginners to be using tagged/dated ports trees-- they are not supported and will lead to many complaints about problems that were solved since the tag. How do they fall back when things went wrong? The handbook states that there is no fall back option. Their fall back option has a name: Windows. No need for Windows propaganda here. We have had enough of this already. Thanks. By the way, for those who tried FreeBSD and found it too much, there is another, way better alternative: OS X Someone else does the packaging, testing etc. for you and you still don't run Windows :) This, of course, if the person, unlike you, does not ignore the advice to use PC-BSD. The same FreeBSD, with someone else taking care of watching the ports tree, configuring, compiling, packaging etc. Daniel I don't see what the overall issue is. When I first got introduced to FreeBSD, I installed all of my 3rd part software using packages as I thought that's how it was done. It installed fast but was a little out of date. Later I learned about ports and slowly started using that for more and more software to get the newer versions. Now I am at the point where all of it is compiled from updated portstree and I fully expect every time that I upgrade that some ports will break and have to be manually corrected. I would not expect less from software that has so many random interdependencies that are handled by multiple groups. Have you ever mapped a tree of all the package dependencies it takes to install gnome on a bare system? I got lost after the 20th level or so in. There is constant compilation testing on the software to ID the blatant compile errors, but tsometimes we just have the magical winning combo of fail options on our system and it will break. Overall I see it as packages are flat stable at the cost of being out of date, and ports are current but not guaranteed to compile without intervention. The Maintainers do give a very good shot to make them stable but sometimes one person cannot maintain millions of lines of code and not make a glitch occasionally, or make it out on time when a dependency changes. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?
In parallel is the discussion why so little people are using FreeBSD. Do you understand what I want to say? Erich I would say there are 3 main things. 1) the 3rd party apps, which has already been covered of how overpowering it can appear to newbies. Not going into depth anymore 2) lack of advertising the name. If you ask most IT professionals to name as many OSes as they can that they hear about, usually boils down to Windows, Linux, Solaris, AIX,OSX and then the oddball IBM ones like Z, I, etc. not many people hear about FreeBSD or what systems they use on a regular basis that are based on it. From my understanding Hotmail was originally a BSD based system before they were gobbled by Microsoft. Most newer websites are either IIS or a LAMP stack as far as people know. The one new addition to the list of systems that uses FreeBSD is Netflix as they advertise that is what their OpenConnect system runs on (FreeBSD 9.0) https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect/software In general though there is not the huge My system is so stable because it's based on (Free)BSD out in the wild. The in the know techs know about it but not Joe CIO at XYZ company 3) Most of the support for FreeBSD is provided by the community and a couple of shops that cater to it like iX. There is not the same level of direct support as the Linux community has (ie, RedHat, Novell, Canonical, etc) and I believe a lot of people perceive that as the system not mature enough to be used beyond a hobbyist OS. There are some extremely biased places out there that, if the maintenance isn't 4-5 figures a year, it's not enterprise level support. This scenarios is not something that can really be fixed unless the community became for-profit like most higher end Linux distros did, which I think is also not necessarily the best of ideas. I can see iX getting away with it if they did a spin of PC-BSD that was pretty much geared at servers only , and not desktops, kind of like how CentOS is for servers and Fedora is for Desktops (you can do reverse rolls, but why would you?) ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: AppleTalk status
On 25/05/2010, at 20:55, Stefan Bethke wrote: I'm working on updating net/netatalk to version 2.1 (or 2.1.1 when that comes out the next couple of days), and I'm wondering what state AppleTalk support is in these days. Is anybody still using it, or would now be the time to make all AppleTalk support in that port optional, and just focus on the file server component? I haven't used AppleTalk for at least eight years now, and I don't quite see which setting it still would be used in nowadays... I use it so I can back my Macbook Pro to my FreeBSD server on a ZFS partition.. (But that is all) You're using the sys/netatalk AppleTalk protocol for that, or TCP? The netatalk port's afpd (Apple File Protocol daemon) can speak AFP over both DDP/ASP and TCP, and I'll keep afpd working over TCP of course. I'm talking about disabling AppleTalk protocol support. I think that making it optional would be smartest choice. I think only people with older equipment that cannot do TCP would need it and that most likely is a select few. definitely better than flat out removing completely. _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
