Re: Alpha/EISA broken?

2003-07-31 Thread Mark Murray
Wilko Bulte writes:
  Sounds like an SRM problem or EISA configuration problem.
  Normaly the bus and then system board should be probed at this point.
  We never used EISA on alpha before - EISA bridge support was only
  conditionalisized on pci.
 
 Which triggers me: did you run the ECU?
 
 A copy is at:
 
 ftp://ftp.tcja.nl/pub/wilko/alpha

I have this now. It looks like something I dd(1) onto a floppy?

  In case something is wrong with your eisa setup.
  Eisa configuration has to be done via alphabios.
 
 Do 'runecu' from the SRM console and it should work.

With the froppy in the drive, I presume? The SRM console is the
 prompt where you type boot, right?

(Typing from work - will do at home later).

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Re: Alpha/EISA broken?

2003-07-31 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 01:40:28PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote:
 Wilko Bulte writes:
   Sounds like an SRM problem or EISA configuration problem.
   Normaly the bus and then system board should be probed at this point.
   We never used EISA on alpha before - EISA bridge support was only
   conditionalisized on pci.
  
  Which triggers me: did you run the ECU?
  
  A copy is at:
  
  ftp://ftp.tcja.nl/pub/wilko/alpha
 
 I have this now. It looks like something I dd(1) onto a floppy?

yessir

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Re: Alpha/EISA broken?

2003-07-31 Thread Mark Murray
Wilko Bulte writes:
 On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 01:40:28PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote:
  Wilko Bulte writes:
Sounds like an SRM problem or EISA configuration problem.
Normaly the bus and then system board should be probed at this point.
We never used EISA on alpha before - EISA bridge support was only
conditionalisized on pci.
   
   Which triggers me: did you run the ECU?
   
   A copy is at:
   
   ftp://ftp.tcja.nl/pub/wilko/alpha
  
  I have this now. It looks like something I dd(1) onto a floppy?
 
 yessir

:-)

And then do what with? Boot off it? run it from the bios?

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Re: Alpha/EISA broken?

2003-07-31 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:03:12PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote:
 Wilko Bulte writes:
  On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 01:40:28PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote:
   Wilko Bulte writes:
 Sounds like an SRM problem or EISA configuration problem.
 Normaly the bus and then system board should be probed at this point.
 We never used EISA on alpha before - EISA bridge support was only
 conditionalisized on pci.

Which triggers me: did you run the ECU?

A copy is at:

ftp://ftp.tcja.nl/pub/wilko/alpha
   
   I have this now. It looks like something I dd(1) onto a floppy?
  
  yessir
 
 :-)
 
 And then do what with? Boot off it? run it from the bios?

 runecu 

from SRM. Better have a VGA card installed. Serial console is 
possible to but is a bit (hum..) of a challenge.

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Re: Alpha/EISA broken?

2003-07-31 Thread Mark Murray
Wilko Bulte writes:
  And then do what with? Boot off it? run it from the bios?
 
  runecu 
 
 from SRM. Better have a VGA card installed. Serial console is 
 possible to but is a bit (hum..) of a challenge.

I'm in big trouble. I have no VGA, it hangs off EISA, and I
need to turn it on.

I can connect on a serial console, but ECU assumes a VT220, and
the output is unreadable.

Any suggestions?

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Alpha/EISA broken?

2003-07-25 Thread Mark Murray
Hi

Latest boot on my Alpha breaks thus:

Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel]...
Entering /boot/kernel/kernel at 0xfc3303c0...
sio1: gdb debugging port
Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT #0: Fri Jul 25 11:50:23 BST 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/alpha/compile/G_ALPHA
Preloaded elf kernel /boot/kernel/kernel at 0xfc868000.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/linux.ko at 0xfc8680d0.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/sysvshm.ko at 0xfc8681a0.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/sysvsem.ko at 0xfc868270.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/sysvmsg.ko at 0xfc868340.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/osf1.ko at 0xfc868410.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/if_dc.ko at 0xfc8684e0.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/miibus.ko at 0xfc8685b0.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/random.ko at 0xfc868680.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/isp.ko at 0xfc868750.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/cam.ko at 0xfc868820.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/nfsserver.ko at 0xfc8688f0.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/nfsclient.ko at 0xfc8689c8.
AlphaServer 1000/1000A
AlphaServer 1000A 5/500, 500MHz
8192 byte page size, 1 processor.
CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=2 extensions=0x1BWX
OSF PAL rev: 0x1000600020117
real memory  = 266371072 (254 MB)
avail memory = 250863616 (239 MB)
cia0: 2117x Core Logic chipset
cia0: ALCOR/ALCOR2, pass 3
cia0: extended capabilities: 21DWEN,BWEN
pcib0: 2117x PCI host bus adapter on cia0
pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
eisab0: PCI-EISA bridge at device 7.0 on pci0

halted CPU 0

halt code = 7
machine check while in PAL mode
PC = 18100


Any idea what gives?

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Re: Alpha/EISA broken?

2003-07-25 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:07:46PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote:
 Hi
 
 Latest boot on my Alpha breaks thus:
 

 real memory  = 266371072 (254 MB)
 avail memory = 250863616 (239 MB)
 cia0: 2117x Core Logic chipset
 cia0: ALCOR/ALCOR2, pass 3
 cia0: extended capabilities: 21DWEN,BWEN
 pcib0: 2117x PCI host bus adapter on cia0
 pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
 eisab0: PCI-EISA bridge at device 7.0 on pci0
 
 halted CPU 0
 
 halt code = 7
 machine check while in PAL mode
 PC = 18100
 
 
 Any idea what gives?

Not really, but as a datapoint today's -current 
does work OK on a EISA-less machine. 

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Re: Alpha/EISA broken?

2003-07-25 Thread Mark Murray
Wilko Bulte writes:
  halt code = 7
  machine check while in PAL mode
  PC = 18100
  
  
  Any idea what gives?
 
 Not really, but as a datapoint today's -current 
 does work OK on a EISA-less machine. 

GENERIC kernel also has above error.

Remove eisa, and the boot goes straight to panic (no clock).

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Re: Alpha/EISA broken?

2003-07-25 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:31:27PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote:
 Wilko Bulte writes:
   halt code = 7
   machine check while in PAL mode
   PC = 18100
   
   
   Any idea what gives?
  
  Not really, but as a datapoint today's -current 
  does work OK on a EISA-less machine. 
 
 GENERIC kernel also has above error.
 
 Remove eisa, and the boot goes straight to panic (no clock).

That is because your clock sits behind eisa I think. ticso recently
posted some days ago that eisa is now mandatory on alpha.
I did not follow in detail to be honest. Check the archives.

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Re: Alpha/EISA broken?

2003-07-25 Thread Mark Murray
Wilko Bulte writes:
  GENERIC kernel also has above error.
  
  Remove eisa, and the boot goes straight to panic (no clock).
 
 That is because your clock sits behind eisa I think. ticso recently
 posted some days ago that eisa is now mandatory on alpha.
 I did not follow in detail to be honest. Check the archives.

Well, that's left me hosed :-(.

I looked through current@ and alpha@ (briefly) and saw nothing
obvious. What should I be looking for?

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Re: Alpha/EISA broken?

2003-07-25 Thread Bernd Walter
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:07:46PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote:
 Hi
 
 Latest boot on my Alpha breaks thus:
 
 Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel]...
 Entering /boot/kernel/kernel at 0xfc3303c0...
 sio1: gdb debugging port
 Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
 FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT #0: Fri Jul 25 11:50:23 BST 2003
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/alpha/compile/G_ALPHA
 Preloaded elf kernel /boot/kernel/kernel at 0xfc868000.
 Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/linux.ko at 0xfc8680d0.
 Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/sysvshm.ko at 0xfc8681a0.
 Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/sysvsem.ko at 0xfc868270.
 Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/sysvmsg.ko at 0xfc868340.
 Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/osf1.ko at 0xfc868410.
 Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/if_dc.ko at 0xfc8684e0.
 Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/miibus.ko at 0xfc8685b0.
 Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/random.ko at 0xfc868680.
 Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/isp.ko at 0xfc868750.
 Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/cam.ko at 0xfc868820.
 Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/nfsserver.ko at 0xfc8688f0.
 Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/nfsclient.ko at 0xfc8689c8.
 AlphaServer 1000/1000A
 AlphaServer 1000A 5/500, 500MHz
 8192 byte page size, 1 processor.
 CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=2 extensions=0x1BWX
 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000600020117
 real memory  = 266371072 (254 MB)
 avail memory = 250863616 (239 MB)
 cia0: 2117x Core Logic chipset
 cia0: ALCOR/ALCOR2, pass 3
 cia0: extended capabilities: 21DWEN,BWEN
 pcib0: 2117x PCI host bus adapter on cia0
 pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
 eisab0: PCI-EISA bridge at device 7.0 on pci0
 
 halted CPU 0
 
 halt code = 7
 machine check while in PAL mode
 PC = 18100
 
 
 Any idea what gives?

Sounds like an SRM problem or EISA configuration problem.
Normaly the bus and then system board should be probed at this point.
We never used EISA on alpha before - EISA bridge support was only
conditionalisized on pci.

I tested localy on an AS4100 system:
eisab0: PCI-EISA bridge at device 1.0 on pci1
eisa0: EISA bus on eisab0
mainboard0: DEC6400 (System Board) on eisa0 slot 0
isa0: ISA bus on eisab0

What says show config and show device?

In case something is wrong with your eisa setup.
Eisa configuration has to be done via alphabios.

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Re: Alpha/EISA broken?

2003-07-25 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 07:02:09PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote:

  eisab0: PCI-EISA bridge at device 7.0 on pci0
  
  halted CPU 0
  
  halt code = 7
  machine check while in PAL mode
  PC = 18100
  
  
  Any idea what gives?
 
 Sounds like an SRM problem or EISA configuration problem.
 Normaly the bus and then system board should be probed at this point.
 We never used EISA on alpha before - EISA bridge support was only
 conditionalisized on pci.

Which triggers me: did you run the ECU?

A copy is at:

ftp://ftp.tcja.nl/pub/wilko/alpha

 In case something is wrong with your eisa setup.
 Eisa configuration has to be done via alphabios.

Do 'runecu' from the SRM console and it should work.

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Re: Alpha/EISA broken?

2003-07-25 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:49:15PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote:
 Wilko Bulte writes:
   GENERIC kernel also has above error.
   
   Remove eisa, and the boot goes straight to panic (no clock).
  
  That is because your clock sits behind eisa I think. ticso recently
  posted some days ago that eisa is now mandatory on alpha.
  I did not follow in detail to be honest. Check the archives.
 
 Well, that's left me hosed :-(.
 
 I looked through current@ and alpha@ (briefly) and saw nothing
 obvious. What should I be looking for?
 
I think cvs-all@ would be more appropriate.


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