Re: Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD responsibilities

2022-04-01 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday,  1 April 2022 at  9:38:07 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote:
> In message <20220401064816.gs60...@eureka.lemis.com>, Greg 'groggy' Lehey
> write
> s:
>>
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>> On Friday,  1 April 2022 at  5:58:39 +, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>>> I don't think 2.2.10 is warranted.
>>
>> Agreed.  The upgrade isn't sufficiently important.
>>
>> How about 2.2.9.1?
>
> I had a different more sinister thought: Announcing that we've moved from
> BSDL to GPLv3 to be more like Linux.

Well, since we have accepted (or at least put up with) git, why not?
Of course, things go both ways.  For those of you who missed it,
www.lemis.com/grog/slashdot/

And that wasn't even 1 April.

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Re: Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD responsibilities

2022-04-01 Thread Glen Barber
On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 06:56:27PM +0200, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> > Am 01.04.2022 um 18:38 schrieb Cy Schubert :
> > I had a different more sinister thought: Announcing that we've moved from 
> > BSDL to GPLv3 to be more like Linux.
> 
> Don't we need explicit consent from every contributor for such a major 
> license change?
> Shouldn't we start over from 1.1.5.1 in that case to keep the number of 
> people lower?
> 

You're joking, right?  If so, amusing.  If not, check the date...

Glen



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Re: Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD responsibilities

2022-04-01 Thread Glen Barber
On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 11:42:48AM -0500, Justin Hibbits wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Apr 2022 09:38:07 -0700
> Cy Schubert  wrote:
> 
> > In message <20220401064816.gs60...@eureka.lemis.com>, Greg 'groggy'
> > Lehey write
> > s:
> > > 
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> > > On Friday,  1 April 2022 at  5:58:39 +, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> > >  
> > > > On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 02:20:31PM +0900, Yasuhiro Kimura wrote:  
> > > >> Hi Glen,
> > > >>
> > > >> From: Glen Barber 
> > > >> Subject: Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD
> > > >> responsibilities Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 00:15:02 +
> > > >>  
> > > >>> Dear community,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Given the mental toll the past two years or so have taken on
> > > >>> me, I have decided to step down from all of my "hats" within
> > > >>> the Project, and take some time to sort out what my future
> > > >>> looks like going forward.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Happy April 1st.  I'm not going anywhere.  :-)  
> > > >>
> > > >> We are waiting for the announce of FreeBSD 2.2.10-RELEASE. :-)
> > > >>
> > > >> Cf.
> > > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2006-April/001055
> > > >>  
> > > .html  
> > > >
> > > > I don't think 2.2.10 is warranted.  
> > >
> > > Agreed.  The upgrade isn't sufficiently important.
> > >
> > > How about 2.2.9.1?  
> > 
> > I had a different more sinister thought: Announcing that we've moved
> > from BSDL to GPLv3 to be more like Linux.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Take it to the next level.  Since we're using git you can make the
> license change, do the commit, then send the commit email out, and it
> would have the valid hash and all.
> 

I was so very close to doing something similar, but I was more worried
about screwing up my local trees.

Glen



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Re: Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD responsibilities

2022-04-01 Thread Justin Hibbits
On Fri, 01 Apr 2022 09:38:07 -0700
Cy Schubert  wrote:

> In message <20220401064816.gs60...@eureka.lemis.com>, Greg 'groggy'
> Lehey write
> s:
> > 
> > --TSQPSNmi3T91JED+
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> > On Friday,  1 April 2022 at  5:58:39 +, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> >  
> > > On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 02:20:31PM +0900, Yasuhiro Kimura wrote:  
> > >> Hi Glen,
> > >>
> > >> From: Glen Barber 
> > >> Subject: Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD
> > >> responsibilities Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 00:15:02 +
> > >>  
> > >>> Dear community,
> > >>>
> > >>> Given the mental toll the past two years or so have taken on
> > >>> me, I have decided to step down from all of my "hats" within
> > >>> the Project, and take some time to sort out what my future
> > >>> looks like going forward.
> > >>>
> > >>> Happy April 1st.  I'm not going anywhere.  :-)  
> > >>
> > >> We are waiting for the announce of FreeBSD 2.2.10-RELEASE. :-)
> > >>
> > >> Cf.
> > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2006-April/001055
> > >>  
> > .html  
> > >
> > > I don't think 2.2.10 is warranted.  
> >
> > Agreed.  The upgrade isn't sufficiently important.
> >
> > How about 2.2.9.1?  
> 
> I had a different more sinister thought: Announcing that we've moved
> from BSDL to GPLv3 to be more like Linux.
> 
> 

Take it to the next level.  Since we're using git you can make the
license change, do the commit, then send the commit email out, and it
would have the valid hash and all.

- Justin



Re: Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD responsibilities

2022-04-01 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <20220401064816.gs60...@eureka.lemis.com>, Greg 'groggy' Lehey 
write
s:
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> On Friday,  1 April 2022 at  5:58:39 +, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 02:20:31PM +0900, Yasuhiro Kimura wrote:
> >> Hi Glen,
> >>
> >> From: Glen Barber 
> >> Subject: Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD responsibilities
> >> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 00:15:02 +
> >>
> >>> Dear community,
> >>>
> >>> Given the mental toll the past two years or so have taken on me, I have
> >>> decided to step down from all of my "hats" within the Project, and take
> >>> some time to sort out what my future looks like going forward.
> >>>
> >>> Happy April 1st.  I'm not going anywhere.  :-)
> >>
> >> We are waiting for the announce of FreeBSD 2.2.10-RELEASE. :-)
> >>
> >> Cf. https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2006-April/001055
> .html
> >
> > I don't think 2.2.10 is warranted.
>
> Agreed.  The upgrade isn't sufficiently important.
>
> How about 2.2.9.1?

I had a different more sinister thought: Announcing that we've moved from 
BSDL to GPLv3 to be more like Linux.


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Re: Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD responsibilities

2022-03-31 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday,  1 April 2022 at  5:58:39 +, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 02:20:31PM +0900, Yasuhiro Kimura wrote:
>> Hi Glen,
>>
>> From: Glen Barber 
>> Subject: Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD responsibilities
>> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 00:15:02 +
>>
>>> Dear community,
>>>
>>> Given the mental toll the past two years or so have taken on me, I have
>>> decided to step down from all of my "hats" within the Project, and take
>>> some time to sort out what my future looks like going forward.
>>>
>>> Happy April 1st.  I'm not going anywhere.  :-)
>>
>> We are waiting for the announce of FreeBSD 2.2.10-RELEASE. :-)
>>
>> Cf. 
>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2006-April/001055.html
>
> I don't think 2.2.10 is warranted.

Agreed.  The upgrade isn't sufficiently important.

How about 2.2.9.1?

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Re: Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD responsibilities

2022-03-31 Thread Alexey Dokuchaev
On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 02:20:31PM +0900, Yasuhiro Kimura wrote:
> Hi Glen,
> 
> From: Glen Barber 
> Subject: Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD responsibilities
> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 00:15:02 +
> 
> > Dear community,
> > 
> > Given the mental toll the past two years or so have taken on me, I have
> > decided to step down from all of my "hats" within the Project, and take
> > some time to sort out what my future looks like going forward.
> > 
> > Happy April 1st.  I'm not going anywhere.  :-)
> 
> We are waiting for the announce of FreeBSD 2.2.10-RELEASE. :-)
> 
> Cf. 
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2006-April/001055.html

I don't think 2.2.10 is warranted.  2.2.9 (or was it 2.2.8?) had improved
Quake II support in Linuxolator, but since then we've got several native
ports available in our collection which play just fine (modulo the problems
caused by that shitty linuxish graphics stack we're confined to these days).

./danfe



Re: Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD responsibilities

2022-03-31 Thread Yasuhiro Kimura
Hi Glen,

From: Glen Barber 
Subject: Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD responsibilities
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 00:15:02 +

> Dear community,
> 
> Given the mental toll the past two years or so have taken on me, I have
> decided to step down from all of my "hats" within the Project, and take
> some time to sort out what my future looks like going forward.
> 
> Happy April 1st.  I'm not going anywhere.  :-)
> 
> Glen

We are waiting for the announce of FreeBSD 2.2.10-RELEASE. :-)

Cf. https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2006-April/001055.html

---
Yasuhiro Kimura



Re: Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD responsibilities

2022-03-31 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 06:18:16PM -0600, The Doctor wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 12:15:02AM +, Glen Barber wrote:
> > Dear community,
> > 
> > Given the mental toll the past two years or so have taken on me, I have
> > decided to step down from all of my "hats" within the Project, and take
> > some time to sort out what my future looks like going forward.
> > 
> > Happy April 1st.  I'm not going anywhere.  :-)
> >
> 
> Now for Linux and M$ to be a bad April Fools' joke.
> 

Damn, I did not think of that... :-)

Glen



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Considering stepping down from all of my FreeBSD responsibilities

2022-03-31 Thread Glen Barber
Dear community,

Given the mental toll the past two years or so have taken on me, I have
decided to step down from all of my "hats" within the Project, and take
some time to sort out what my future looks like going forward.

Happy April 1st.  I'm not going anywhere.  :-)

Glen



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