Re: FreeBSD compile with VT / Newcons... can we disable the bell / beep hardware sound?

2014-04-11 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 02:07:43 +0100
Miguel Clara miguelmcl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hum... I've found this:
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2013-December/054676.html
 
 Does this mean that it should actually be disabled by default?

Hello Miguel,

No, it's mean you can try with:
kbdcontrol -b quiet

Good luck!

 
 
 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Miguel Clara
 miguelmcl...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  TTYs and even using the console in Xfce terminal
 
 
  On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org
  wrote:
 
  On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 02:02:01AM +0100, Miguel Clara wrote:
   On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org
   wrote:
  
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 01:52:34AM +0100, Miguel Clara wrote:
 WIth syscons this can be done with


 # sysctl hw.syscons.bell=0

 But after kernel is compiled with VT this systcl is of
 course not
possible
 anymore!

 Any alternative?
   
I have yet to hear any bell sounds with vt(4).
   
Can you clarify the problem, and where this happens?
   
   When I for example use TAB to complete and there's more than
   one result... or none!
  
  
   Happens to me both in FreeBSD 11 current (HP Laptop) and with 10
   +VT
  
 
  SSH?  Serial console?  X?
 
  Glen
 
 
 
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Re: FreeBSD compile with VT / Newcons... can we disable the bell / beep hardware sound?

2014-04-11 Thread Andreas Nilsson
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Aleksandr Rybalko r...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 02:07:43 +0100
 Miguel Clara miguelmcl...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hum... I've found this:
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2013-December/054676.html
 
  Does this mean that it should actually be disabled by default?

 Hello Miguel,

 No, it's mean you can try with:
 kbdcontrol -b quiet

 Good luck!


I also have annoying beeps with vt, but

$ kbdcontrol -b quiet
kbdcontrol: argument to -b must be duration.pitch or
[quiet.]visual|normal|off

However kbdcontrol -b quiet.off is accepted.

Best regards
Andreas



 
 
  On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Miguel Clara
  miguelmcl...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   TTYs and even using the console in Xfce terminal
  
  
   On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org
   wrote:
  
   On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 02:02:01AM +0100, Miguel Clara wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org
wrote:
   
 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 01:52:34AM +0100, Miguel Clara wrote:
  WIth syscons this can be done with
 
 
  # sysctl hw.syscons.bell=0
 
  But after kernel is compiled with VT this systcl is of
  course not
 possible
  anymore!
 
  Any alternative?

 I have yet to hear any bell sounds with vt(4).

 Can you clarify the problem, and where this happens?

When I for example use TAB to complete and there's more than
one result... or none!
   
   
Happens to me both in FreeBSD 11 current (HP Laptop) and with 10
+VT
   
  
   SSH?  Serial console?  X?
  
   Glen
  
  
  
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Re: FreeBSD compile with VT / Newcons... can we disable the bell / beep hardware sound?

2014-04-11 Thread Mike C.
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On 11 April 2014 08:30:36 WEST, Andreas Nilsson andrn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Aleksandr Rybalko r...@freebsd.org
wrote:

 On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 02:07:43 +0100
 Miguel Clara miguelmcl...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hum... I've found this:
 

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2013-December/054676.html
 
  Does this mean that it should actually be disabled by default?

 Hello Miguel,

 No, it's mean you can try with:
 kbdcontrol -b quiet

 Good luck!


I also have annoying beeps with vt, but

$ kbdcontrol -b quiet
kbdcontrol: argument to -b must be duration.pitch or
[quiet.]visual|normal|off

However kbdcontrol -b quiet.off is accepted.

Best regards
Andreas


Good to know I was not alone :)

thanks both for the hint, had no idea I could do that.




 
 
  On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Miguel Clara
  miguelmcl...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   TTYs and even using the console in Xfce terminal
  
  
   On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org
   wrote:
  
   On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 02:02:01AM +0100, Miguel Clara wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org
wrote:
   
 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 01:52:34AM +0100, Miguel Clara
wrote:
  WIth syscons this can be done with
 
 
  # sysctl hw.syscons.bell=0
 
  But after kernel is compiled with VT this systcl is of
  course not
 possible
  anymore!
 
  Any alternative?

 I have yet to hear any bell sounds with vt(4).

 Can you clarify the problem, and where this happens?

When I for example use TAB to complete and there's more than
one result... or none!
   
   
Happens to me both in FreeBSD 11 current (HP Laptop) and with
10
+VT
   
  
   SSH?  Serial console?  X?
  
   Glen
  
  
  
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Re: FreeBSD compile with VT / Newcons... can we disable the bell / beep hardware sound?

2014-04-11 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 10:48:33 +0100
Mike C. miguelmcl...@gmail.com wrote:

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 On 11 April 2014 08:30:36 WEST, Andreas Nilsson andrn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Aleksandr Rybalko r...@freebsd.org
 wrote:
 
  On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 02:07:43 +0100
  Miguel Clara miguelmcl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hum... I've found this:
  
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2013-December/054676.html
  
   Does this mean that it should actually be disabled by default?
 
  Hello Miguel,
 
  No, it's mean you can try with:
  kbdcontrol -b quiet
 
  Good luck!
 
 
 I also have annoying beeps with vt, but
 
 $ kbdcontrol -b quiet
 kbdcontrol: argument to -b must be duration.pitch or
 [quiet.]visual|normal|off
 
 However kbdcontrol -b quiet.off is accepted.
 
 Best regards
 Andreas
 
 
 Good to know I was not alone :)
 
 thanks both for the hint, had no idea I could do that.

Ohhh, sorry. I never use it, so forget how to do it in the right way :)

 
 
 
 
  
  
   On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Miguel Clara
   miguelmcl...@gmail.comwrote:
  
TTYs and even using the console in Xfce terminal
   
   
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org
wrote:
   
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 02:02:01AM +0100, Miguel Clara wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org
 wrote:

  On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 01:52:34AM +0100, Miguel Clara
 wrote:
   WIth syscons this can be done with
  
  
   # sysctl hw.syscons.bell=0
  
   But after kernel is compiled with VT this systcl is of
   course not
  possible
   anymore!
  
   Any alternative?
 
  I have yet to hear any bell sounds with vt(4).
 
  Can you clarify the problem, and where this happens?
 
 When I for example use TAB to complete and there's more than
 one result... or none!


 Happens to me both in FreeBSD 11 current (HP Laptop) and with
 10
 +VT

   
SSH?  Serial console?  X?
   
Glen
   
   
   
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Re: FreeBSD compile with VT / Newcons... can we disable the bell / beep hardware sound?

2014-04-11 Thread Miguel Clara
No worries, also found this (after reading kbdcontrol man page and
/etc/defaults/rc.conf):

keybell=NO # See kbdcontrol for options.  Use off to disable.
allscreens_kbdflags= # Set this kbdconrol mode for all virtual screens

Just tough I should share, I can someone bumps to this, and want to know
how to setup it auto on system start!

Once more thanks for sharing the info about kbdcontrol.




On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Aleksandr Rybalko r...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 10:48:33 +0100
 Mike C. miguelmcl...@gmail.com wrote:

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  On 11 April 2014 08:30:36 WEST, Andreas Nilsson andrn...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Aleksandr Rybalko r...@freebsd.org
  wrote:
  
   On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 02:07:43 +0100
   Miguel Clara miguelmcl...@gmail.com wrote:
  
Hum... I've found this:
   
  
  
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2013-December/054676.html
   
Does this mean that it should actually be disabled by default?
  
   Hello Miguel,
  
   No, it's mean you can try with:
   kbdcontrol -b quiet
  
   Good luck!
  
  
  I also have annoying beeps with vt, but
  
  $ kbdcontrol -b quiet
  kbdcontrol: argument to -b must be duration.pitch or
  [quiet.]visual|normal|off
  
  However kbdcontrol -b quiet.off is accepted.
  
  Best regards
  Andreas
  
 
  Good to know I was not alone :)
 
  thanks both for the hint, had no idea I could do that.

 Ohhh, sorry. I never use it, so forget how to do it in the right way :)

 
 
  
  
   
   
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Miguel Clara
miguelmcl...@gmail.comwrote:
   
 TTYs and even using the console in Xfce terminal


 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org
 wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 02:02:01AM +0100, Miguel Clara wrote:
  On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org
  wrote:
 
   On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 01:52:34AM +0100, Miguel Clara
  wrote:
WIth syscons this can be done with
   
   
# sysctl hw.syscons.bell=0
   
But after kernel is compiled with VT this systcl is of
course not
   possible
anymore!
   
Any alternative?
  
   I have yet to hear any bell sounds with vt(4).
  
   Can you clarify the problem, and where this happens?
  
  When I for example use TAB to complete and there's more than
  one result... or none!
 
 
  Happens to me both in FreeBSD 11 current (HP Laptop) and with
  10
  +VT
 

 SSH?  Serial console?  X?

 Glen



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FreeBSD compile with VT / Newcons... can we disable the bell / beep hardware sound?

2014-04-10 Thread Miguel Clara
WIth syscons this can be done with


# sysctl hw.syscons.bell=0

But after kernel is compiled with VT this systcl is of course not possible
anymore!

Any alternative?
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Re: FreeBSD compile with VT / Newcons... can we disable the bell / beep hardware sound?

2014-04-10 Thread Glen Barber
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 01:52:34AM +0100, Miguel Clara wrote:
 WIth syscons this can be done with
 
 
 # sysctl hw.syscons.bell=0
 
 But after kernel is compiled with VT this systcl is of course not possible
 anymore!
 
 Any alternative?

I have yet to hear any bell sounds with vt(4).

Can you clarify the problem, and where this happens?

Glen



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Re: FreeBSD compile with VT / Newcons... can we disable the bell / beep hardware sound?

2014-04-10 Thread Miguel Clara
When I for example use TAB to complete and there's more than one
result... or none!


Happens to me both in FreeBSD 11 current (HP Laptop) and with 10+VT




On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 01:52:34AM +0100, Miguel Clara wrote:
  WIth syscons this can be done with
 
 
  # sysctl hw.syscons.bell=0
 
  But after kernel is compiled with VT this systcl is of course not
 possible
  anymore!
 
  Any alternative?

 I have yet to hear any bell sounds with vt(4).

 Can you clarify the problem, and where this happens?

 Glen


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Re: FreeBSD compile with VT / Newcons... can we disable the bell / beep hardware sound?

2014-04-10 Thread Glen Barber
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 02:02:01AM +0100, Miguel Clara wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:
 
  On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 01:52:34AM +0100, Miguel Clara wrote:
   WIth syscons this can be done with
  
  
   # sysctl hw.syscons.bell=0
  
   But after kernel is compiled with VT this systcl is of course not
  possible
   anymore!
  
   Any alternative?
 
  I have yet to hear any bell sounds with vt(4).
 
  Can you clarify the problem, and where this happens?
 
 When I for example use TAB to complete and there's more than one
 result... or none!
 
 
 Happens to me both in FreeBSD 11 current (HP Laptop) and with 10+VT
 

SSH?  Serial console?  X?

Glen



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Re: FreeBSD compile with VT / Newcons... can we disable the bell / beep hardware sound?

2014-04-10 Thread Miguel Clara
TTYs and even using the console in Xfce terminal


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 02:02:01AM +0100, Miguel Clara wrote:
  On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:
 
   On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 01:52:34AM +0100, Miguel Clara wrote:
WIth syscons this can be done with
   
   
# sysctl hw.syscons.bell=0
   
But after kernel is compiled with VT this systcl is of course not
   possible
anymore!
   
Any alternative?
  
   I have yet to hear any bell sounds with vt(4).
  
   Can you clarify the problem, and where this happens?
  
  When I for example use TAB to complete and there's more than one
  result... or none!
 
 
  Happens to me both in FreeBSD 11 current (HP Laptop) and with 10+VT
 

 SSH?  Serial console?  X?

 Glen


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Re: FreeBSD compile with VT / Newcons... can we disable the bell / beep hardware sound?

2014-04-10 Thread Miguel Clara
Hum... I've found this:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2013-December/054676.html

Does this mean that it should actually be disabled by default?


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Miguel Clara miguelmcl...@gmail.comwrote:

 TTYs and even using the console in Xfce terminal


 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 02:02:01AM +0100, Miguel Clara wrote:
  On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:
 
   On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 01:52:34AM +0100, Miguel Clara wrote:
WIth syscons this can be done with
   
   
# sysctl hw.syscons.bell=0
   
But after kernel is compiled with VT this systcl is of course not
   possible
anymore!
   
Any alternative?
  
   I have yet to hear any bell sounds with vt(4).
  
   Can you clarify the problem, and where this happens?
  
  When I for example use TAB to complete and there's more than one
  result... or none!
 
 
  Happens to me both in FreeBSD 11 current (HP Laptop) and with 10+VT
 

 SSH?  Serial console?  X?

 Glen



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