Re: Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Thomas Dean wrote: I am running smp, 4.0-current, as of Mon Feb 15 03:34:29 PST 1999. Printing is very slow. I have a HP LaserJet III attached to lpt0. Printing in the pcl, text, mode is slower than I expect. Printing in the postscipt mode is extremely slow. A 30K postscript file has been OVER 5 minutes and is not finished! From dmesg: ... ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: PC87334 chipset (PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: generic printer on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port I have the same problem. The simple answer is that interrupt-driven printing doesn't work for you, and you have to switch to polled printing: lptcontrol -p But this leads to the question why it doesn't work for you and me, and how to debug it. Is it printer, cable, port, or freebsd-config, which is to blame? I don't know how to proceed either... Leif Neland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Thomas Dean wrote: I am running smp, 4.0-current, as of Mon Feb 15 03:34:29 PST 1999. Printing is very slow. I have a HP LaserJet III attached to lpt0. Printing in the pcl, text, mode is slower than I expect. Printing in the postscipt mode is extremely slow. A 30K postscript file has been OVER 5 minutes and is not finished! have you tried: lptcontrol -p I remeber the friendlies on #freebsd suggesting this to me when i had similar symptoms last year. (try other lptcontrol settings as well) -Alfred tomdean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
Alfred Perlstein writes : Printing is very slow. I have a HP LaserJet III attached to lpt0. Printing in the pcl, text, mode is slower than I expect. Printing in the postscipt mode is extremely slow. A 30K postscript file has been OVER 5 minutes and is not finished! have you tried: lptcontrol -p I remeber the friendlies on #freebsd suggesting this to me when i had similar symptoms last year. It's a long long time since I was working on the lpt driver. This kind of symptom was a common problem during its development. I haveen't been able to really appreciate the code for the nltp driver, so I also can't really see if there is a problem. Biggest problem when I was hacking on the lpt driver was that interrupts tended to get lost sometimes. I seem to recall, that there were some problems with slow printing that just could not be fixed. Going into polled mode (lptcotnrol -p) is probably your best bet at the moment. Geoff. -- Geoff Rehmet, The Internet Solution geo...@is.co.za; ge...@rucus.ru.ac.za; c...@freebsd.org tel: +27-83-292-5800 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
It's a long long time since I was working on the lpt driver. This kind of symptom was a common problem during its development. I haveen't been able to really appreciate the code for the nltp driver, so I also can't really see if there is a problem. Biggest problem when I was hacking on the lpt driver was that interrupts tended to get lost sometimes. I seem to recall, that there were some problems with slow printing that just could not be fixed. Is there a way to test if interrupts are getting serviced? A counter of interrupts? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
RE: Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
Re: Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Geoff Rehmet wrote: Alfred Perlstein writes : Printing is very slow. I have a HP LaserJet III attached to lpt0. Printing in the pcl, text, mode is slower than I expect. Printing in the postscipt mode is extremely slow. A 30K postscript file has been OVER 5 minutes and is not finished! have you tried: lptcontrol -p I remeber the friendlies on #freebsd suggesting this to me when i had similar symptoms last year. It's a long long time since I was working on the lpt driver. This kind of symptom was a common problem during its development. I haveen't been able to really appreciate the code for the nltp driver, so I also can't really see if there is a problem. Biggest problem when I was hacking on the lpt driver was that interrupts tended to get lost sometimes. I seem to recall, that there were some problems with slow printing that just could not be fixed. Going into polled mode (lptcotnrol -p) is probably your best bet at the moment. Geoff, isn't it true that the largest fraction of folks having this problem simply have got their interrupts in their machines set in such a way that there are 2 (or more) devices on IRQ 7? It's almost always a music card doing it, too (although I saw one network card that defaulted to IRQ 7 on install also). People refuse to believe that they can't have more than one card using an IRQ, and so they have this problem. To be honest, although I'm sure that *some* folks having the slow printing problem don't have IRQ 7 mis-set, I haven't seen one real case where it wasn't that, yet. I've followed a good number of those to resolution, guys from freebsd-questions list. +--- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chu...@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). +--- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
My machine is a DEC Celebris 5133DP. The only device added since purchase was de0. This is a recent problem, within the past few months. Or, was I running polled before that? I used the default. From an old config, I see: device lpt0at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr dmesg: ncr0: ncr 53c810 fast10 scsi rev 0x02 int a irq 11 on pci0.1.0 vga0: Matrox MGA 2064W graphics accelerator rev 0x01 int a irq 9 on pci0.6.0 de0: Digital 21041 Ethernet rev 0x11 int a irq 10 on pci0.8.0 atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa config: controller fdc0at isa? port IO_FD1 bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device psm0at isa? tty irq 12 device npx0at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0at isa? port IO_COM1 tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1at isa? port IO_COM2 tty irq 3 vector siointr controller ppc0at isa? port ? tty irq 7 I think this accounts for everything. tomdean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
Changing to polled improved things, somewhat. Printing a 30k postscript file takes 2 minutes. Sending an 9368 byte binary, printer control and setup file takes approximately 1 minute. This is very slow. I will try to setup a DOS or WINNT machine to duplicate this. tomdean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Thomas Dean wrote: Changing to polled improved things, somewhat. Printing a 30k postscript file takes 2 minutes. Sending an 9368 byte binary, printer control and setup file takes approximately 1 minute. This is very slow. I will try to setup a DOS or WINNT machine to duplicate this. The thing I posted about IRQs, it isn't dealing with what you have in your kernel, so posting your config wasn't a help; it has solely to do with what is physically existing in your computer. You have to go through your system and do a careful census of exactly what cards you have installed and what irq's they're using. This cannot ignore peripherals installed from your motherboard, either (if you have a bios setting putting something extra on IRQ 7, it's going to cause it just as surely as having a Soundblaster on it will). +--- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chu...@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). +--- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
Leif Neland le...@neland.dk wrote: Is there a way to test if interrupts are getting serviced? A counter of interrupts? vmstat -i Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 11:32:51PM -0800, Thomas Dean wrote: I am running smp, 4.0-current, as of Mon Feb 15 03:34:29 PST 1999. Printing is very slow. I have a HP LaserJet III attached to lpt0. Printing in the pcl, text, mode is slower than I expect. Printing in the postscipt mode is extremely slow. A 30K postscript file has been OVER 5 minutes and is not finished! From dmesg: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: PC87334 chipset (PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: generic printer on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa Another clue: The National Semiconductors are tricky to configure and your parallel port chipset is one of them (moreover a recent one). Compare the boot detection (PS2/NIBBLE) with your BIOS settings. Try to change your BIOS settings and dump me your dmesg (with verbose output). You may also try to force the operating mode with ppc boot flags. See ppc(4) for more info about this. -- nso...@teaser.fr / nso...@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
Just to be clear, when I said the values from dmesg and config covered everything, I mean all the physical and/or BIOS devices are included in the list. There are TWO cards plugged into the MB, other than the CPU's. These are de0 and the vga. The on-mother-board devices are all in dmesg. There are no irq's in BIOS, other than some of those in dmesg, parallel, serial, and, PS/2. There are no other devices. tomdean === all of dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #4: Mon Feb 15 03:34:29 PST 1999 tomd...@celebris:/usr/src/sys/compile/CELEBRIS-SMP Timecounter-tdd i8254 frequency 1193026 Hz cost 2540 ns CPU: Pentium/P54C (586-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x3bfFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,APIC real memory = 100663296 (98304K bytes) avail memory = 95055872 (92828K bytes) Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee0 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee0 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec0 Preloaded elf kernel kernel at 0xf02b. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: Intel 82434NX (Neptune) PCI cache memory controller \ rev 0x11 on pci0.0.0 ncr0: ncr 53c810 fast10 scsi rev 0x02 int a irq 11 on pci0.1.0 chip1: Intel 82378IB PCI to ISA bridge rev 0x88 on pci0.2.0 vga0: Matrox MGA 2064W graphics accelerator rev 0x01 int a irq 9 on pci0.6.0 de0: Digital 21041 Ethernet rev 0x11 int a irq 10 on pci0.8.0 de0: DEC DE450-CA 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 de0: address 00:00:f8:02:76:db Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: PC87334 chipset (PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: generic printer on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via pin 2 de0 XXX: driver didn't set ifq_maxlen lo0 XXX: driver didn't set ifq_maxlen Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: QUANTUM FIREBALL1080S 1Q09 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 10.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 8) da0: 1042MB (2134305 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 132C) da2 at ncr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: QUANTUM EMPIRE_1080S 1240 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 10.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 1029MB (2109376 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 131C) da1 at ncr0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: QUANTUM FIREBALL ST3.2S 0F0C Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 10.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 3090MB (6328861 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 393C) changing root device to da1s1a cd0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5401TA 3605 Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 4.237MB/s transfers (4.237MHz, offset 8) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present (da1:ncr0:0:1:0): tagged openings now 8 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
Geoff Rehmet wrote: Alfred Perlstein writes : Printing is very slow. I have a HP LaserJet III attached to lpt0. Printing in the pcl, text, mode is slower than I expect. Printing in the postscipt mode is extremely slow. A 30K postscript file has been OVER 5 minutes and is not finished! have you tried: lptcontrol -p I remeber the friendlies on #freebsd suggesting this to me when i had similar symptoms last year. It's a long long time since I was working on the lpt driver. This kind of symptom was a common problem during its development. I haveen't been able to really appreciate the code for the nltp driver, so I also can't really see if there is a problem. Biggest problem when I was hacking on the lpt driver was that interrupts tended to get lost sometimes. I seem to recall, that there were some problems with slow printing that just could not be fixed. Going into polled mode (lptcotnrol -p) is probably your best bet at the moment. I suspect changing the interrupt mask might also have an impact. -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) d...@newsguy.com d...@freebsd.org FreeBSD is Yoda, Linux is Luke Skywalker. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
Thomas Dean wrote: My machine is a DEC Celebris 5133DP. The only device added since purchase was de0. Regardless of the devices configured in the kernel, does the *computer* have other *physical* devices, such as sound cards (builtin or not)? Also, I seem recall discussions suggesting that using different interrupt masks make a difference, in some cases. -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) d...@newsguy.com d...@freebsd.org FreeBSD is Yoda, Linux is Luke Skywalker. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
Leif Neland wrote: Is it printer, cable, port, or freebsd-config, which is to blame? I don't know how to proceed either... BIOS settings? Have you tried changing BIOS settings such as EPP? -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) d...@newsguy.com d...@freebsd.org FreeBSD is Yoda, Linux is Luke Skywalker. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Printing is vvveeerrryyy slow
I am running smp, 4.0-current, as of Mon Feb 15 03:34:29 PST 1999. Printing is very slow. I have a HP LaserJet III attached to lpt0. Printing in the pcl, text, mode is slower than I expect. Printing in the postscipt mode is extremely slow. A 30K postscript file has been OVER 5 minutes and is not finished!
